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PORK BARREL in the Philippines: Scrap or Retain?

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WITH THE WIDE SPREAD ABUSE OF THE PORK BARREL, DO YOU THINK IT'S TIME TO SCRAP IT?

YES
23 (92%)
NO
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blacknaz21

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Reply #30 on: Aug 15, 2013, 08:55 PM
Palagi na lang nakakalusot yang Napoles na yan. Sa dami ng kinasangkutan nya n kaso ni hindi man lang sya natinag. Maraming nagbubulag-bulagan sa atin kaya sya nakakalusot.

Sana sa ngayon hindi lang papogi ang gagawin nila sana tuluyan na yan para mabawasan ang corrupt na tao sa mundo. :gun2:


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Reply #31 on: Aug 16, 2013, 02:10 PM
^ he he he natawa ako sa hirit mo sir ah. matindi talaga corruption satin. Napoles nagtago na!


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Reply #32 on: Aug 16, 2013, 02:48 PM
Me warrant of arrest na si Napoles...

Pero pano yung mga sangkot na lawmakers?

Ganun na lang?  Wala na?   

Kawawang Pilipinas!



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Reply #33 on: Aug 16, 2013, 03:04 PM
Paano kc daming connections military, senadors, congs, politicians. Sayang lang ang mga buwis natin at napunta sa mga bwisit. Calling P-noy. saan po daang matuwid?


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Reply #34 on: Aug 16, 2013, 03:25 PM
Kung may kapangyarihan lang ako ni Magneto lahat ng Missile at granada sa pilipinas sa malacanang ko tetestingin kung nakamamatay talaga...


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Reply #35 on: Aug 16, 2013, 04:44 PM
I support Sen. Santiago's resolution calling for the gradual phaseout of the PDAF. At least, one source of graft would be eliminated if this happens.

Santiago might not have endeared herself to the crowd when she called her Senate colleagues hypocrites at the close of the Corona impeachment hearings. But as recent events have shown, how right she was all along! How could the likes of Enrile or Estrada act as though they're honorable men when they're probably guilty of even worse  transgressions than the people they summon and subject to public bullying at these hearings (to the point of driving them to commit suicide such as in the case of Gen. Angelo Reyes)?

Sadly, systemic is the best word to describe the rampant corruption in our country today, no less than it was in the past. It's a long way to "Daang Matuwid" but all isn't hopeless--if we  care enough and remain vigilant.



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Reply #36 on: Aug 16, 2013, 05:55 PM
I cannot agree more. I thought Corona's ouster would pave the way for transparency of our leaders by releasing their SALNs. Where are the SALNs now? Who got ousted by fake SALNs after Corona? Are our politicians so clean now? Jinggoy is already saying he wont be subject to a Senate inquiry if the Pork barrel scam will be investigated? Aquino is against the abolition of PDAF. Everybody get a share of this greasy pork except Juan dela Cruz the tax payer.

I hope Juan dela Cruz will soon be an educated and responsible voter. kailan kaya?


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Reply #37 on: Aug 16, 2013, 06:47 PM

'74 solons exceeded pork barrel; P6 billion went to 82 NGOs'

MANILA, Philippines - At least 74 legislators exceeded their respective allocated Priority Development Assistance Fund (PDAF) from 2007 to 2009, the Commission on Audit report revealed on Friday.

At a televised press briefing, COA chairwoman Grace Pulido-Tan said these lawmakers got more than by “hundreds of millions” in their pork barrel.

"Pag sinabi nating labis-labis... hindi lang po P1 million o P5 million, ang labis hundreds of millions and at least one lawmaker got almost P3 billion allocation for PDAF,” COA chairwoman Grace Pulido-Tan said.

She also disclosed that one lawmaker, whom she declined to name, allegedly received P3 billion of PDAF in all.

“Paano nangyari na isang kongresista ay halos 3 billion ang na-release sa kanya? Ano itong mga proyekto na ito,” asked Pulido-Tan.

Senators are allocated with P200 million in pork barrel funds yearly while congressmen receive P70 million each.
Headlines ( Article MRec ), pagematch: 1, sectionmatch: 1

The COA report revealed that a total of P32.347 billion were released out of the allocation of 356 legislators from 2007 to 2009, including a ceratin Luis Abalos who is not a member of the 13th and 14th Congress.

Pulido-Tan also said 12 senators and 180 representatives allocated P6.156 billion in priority development assistance funds to 82 non-government organizations from 2007-2009.

The COA chief said the special audit they conducted clearly showed irregularities in the use of the PDAF ranging from excessive pork barrel allocations, overpricing to ghost deliveries and ghost beneficiaries.

She said the irregularities became possible because of a combination of corruption and the failure of national government agencies, lawmakers' offices, and lapses by the Department of Budget and Management itself, which did not follow its own rules in some cases.

She said that her agency is already in the process of issuing notices of disallowance, a process that she said could take one year.

Some of the key findings of the COA report include:

1. Dozens of lawmakers received PDAF beyond their respective allocations.

2. Some funds were released for projects outside of a congressman's legislative district or sector.

3. One non-lawmaker, a certain "Luis Abalos," received P20 million PDAF and no agency could explain how this happened.

4. No endorsement from the agencies for which the funds were released, which violates the Budget Department's own rules.

5. Of the 82 NGOs covered by audit, many had dubious addresses; some were traced to shanties, or just the home addresses of some members.

6. The delivery of goods and services by NGOs, amounting to billions of pesos, were not made through public bidding.

7. Many NGOs used the same suppliers usually for purchase of agriculture products; some suppliers denied transacting with NGOs while some admitted selling seedlings and other products but denied that the transactions reached millions of pesos.

8. Some suppliers had no business permits when COA checked with respective LGUs.

9. P123 million of funds were used to pay salaries of workers in NGOs

10. Many projects were deficient, overpriced, lacked specifications and subject to split contracts.

11. 54 projects costing P154 million were constructed on private lots, with no evidence that the lots were turned over to government.

12. There were also cases when the list of beneficiaries was taken from the list of those who took the Board Exam.

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2013/08/16/1098131/74-solons-exceeded-pork-barrel-p6-billion-went-82-ngos


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Reply #38 on: Aug 16, 2013, 07:34 PM
If only pinoys would unite and remove these individuals, their family and kins out of power during election then it would have been far more cheaper and simpler to do so than to prosecute them while in power. 


Consider the surprising massive election losses incurred on the Jalosjos clan in zamboanga peninsula where out of 10 candidates from this corrupt group only 1 won.  This clan had been ruling around the area for so long it was thought to be impossible to break this criminal family syndicate but it did finally so it shows that it can be done cooperatively w/o fanfare of a court proceedings like Corona's trial.  Soon enough if they keep on losing their (stolen) wealth will be drained on election expenses.


Hopefully the likes of enriles, lapids, estradas, revillas, sotto, marcos, pinedas, villars, remullas, binays and all known personalites involved et al. will be removed forever. 
« Last Edit: Aug 16, 2013, 07:42 PM by AMARANTH »


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Reply #39 on: Aug 16, 2013, 09:04 PM
kaya systemic ang corruption kasi maaga palang natuturuan na.

tulad ngayong darating na barangay election, boboto rin ang mga bata sa SK election.  bata palang gumagaya na sa maling sistema na mga nakakatandang pulitiko.

one way to reduce corruption?

Increase the fines several folds and give a high reward sa enforcers.

example, no parking zone pero may nag park, make it 10,000 peso fine or even 20,000 syempre yung humuli malaking lagay rin ang hihingin usually 50% of the fine so mahirap para sa isang nahuli magbayad ng lagay kasi malaki sobra ang singilan. 

tingin ko bababa ang corruption rate at tataas naman ang rate ng pagsunod sa mga batas trapiko.


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Reply #40 on: Aug 16, 2013, 09:59 PM
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I hope Juan dela Cruz will soon be an educated and responsible voter. kailan kaya?

dont blame me, i voted for miriam when she ran for prez


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Reply #41 on: Aug 16, 2013, 10:16 PM
dont blame me, i voted for miriam when she ran for prez

No one's blaming you. In fact, Miriam is one of the few bright spots in Philippine politics. You made a relatively right choice.


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Reply #42 on: Aug 17, 2013, 12:13 AM
totoo ba ito? o panaginip lang? kasi pag gising ko after one month, wala na si napoles dito. another way of corruption will be born. samantala, the public officials allegedly involved will be much more creative. "let's try religious". LOL


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Reply #43 on: Aug 17, 2013, 10:33 AM
Rappler





A few weeks before COA released its special audit report on the Priority Development Assistance Fund (PDAF), Rappler analyzed from COA reports and summarized its findings (including lists of NGOs, lawmakers involved, and dates) in a three-part series.


 Here are the Rappler Exclusive reports in case you missed them:




Part 1: At least 49 lawmakers have development funds channeled to dubious non-governmental organizations (NGOs).


http://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/34459-admin-solons-linked-pork-barrel-scam




 Part 2: A bigger but seemingly exclusive network of groups outside government have been cornering lawmakers' pork barrel in recent years.


http://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/34870-almost-half-of-pdaf-goes-to-favored-ngos




Part 3: COA reports, as well as a few other lawmakers, say these elected officials almost all the time choose which NGOs get a slice of their Priority Development Assistance Fund (PDAF).


http://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/35210-pdaf-collusion-solons-choose-ngos


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Reply #44 on: Aug 17, 2013, 01:16 PM
^ high profile resignations... mangyari rin kaya sa Pilipinas?

sana nga malinis din ang Pinas.


 


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