Issues with Redvel

[tops5450]

In fairness kelangan na natin i disect ang business ni redvel if it a classic scam or not. Feel free to take sides and why?

[Dodong_Pobre]

Palagay ko, medyo sensitibo ang ganitong isyu kaya I prefer not to make a vote.However I just want to post the definition of a scam as defined in Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

scam
Pronounced:
/ˈskæm/Listen to audio
Function:
verb
Inflected forms:
scams; scammed; scam·ming
Meaning:
[+ obj] 1 : to deceive and take money from (someone)
2 : to get (something, such as money) by deceiving someone
—scam·mer noun plural scam·mers [count]

The definitive word is [deceive].

de·ceive
Pronounced:
/dɪˈsi:v
Function:
verb
Inflected forms:
de·ceives; de·ceived; de·ceiv·ing
Meaning:
: to make (someone) believe something that is not true [+ obj]

So just make your own judgement...

[rds]

Tingnan na lang natin after 1 or 2 weeks.

Kung tutuong hindi sya scammer, dapat ginagawan na nya ng paraan na mabayaran paunti-unti yung mga investors nya. Until now, hindi ko pa nakita yung effort na yan...

Kaya't antay-antay pa ako...malapit na...

[mlangseth]

oh no....dumating na sa ganito?

[piameg]

am not sure pa if scammer or not....will have to evaluate more just like whitehats.

[tops5450]

Magkakabistuhan na pag lumapas na ang deadline

[bobie]

^^ evaluate ponzy scheme--you will know the answer. ponzy legacy continues 

[puberer]

ang pera kasi pag inutang, dapat may income para na ipangbayad sa utang.  kung ang gagawin lang ay uutang ng panibago para lang mabayaran ang utang sa isa, dun na unti unti magkakaron ng problem.  maiiwasan ang ganong bagay kung sa umpisa palang na di na makabayad ay tinigil na...

kaso ang problem sa mga tao, alam na nilang may problem na, kaso ang ginawa parin, umutang paring ng umutang para ipangbayad sa utang hanggang sa lumobo na ang utang at nagpatong patong na interest. 

malalaman mo lang ang tao na ganyan, pag wala na nagpautang sa kanya. diyan na lalabas ang malaking hiwaga.   

ang tanong...  bakit tumanggap parin ng tumanggap ng pera kahit alam nang may problem?  diyan na lalabas ang good that turned into scam. 

[ric_TNT]

Mukhang tahimik na tahimik na ang thread na ito, mukhang kalmado na ang tubig.

Ano kaya ibig sabihin nito ?

[Dodong_Pobre]

Mukhang tahimik na tahimik na ang thread na ito, mukhang kalmado na ang tubig.
Ano kaya ibig sabihin nito ?

So far, may progress naman dito...and somehow it's a good indicator for investors... However, I'm not in the sole position to give further details (w/c I also prefer not to disclose dahil may communication naman sa e-mail between investors) ... As far as I'm concern as an investor, there are things to look forward to for the coming days ... Hope things will be back in its place ... one step at a time... Goodluck to all investors ...

[falsehope]

lawyer ko na bahala sa kanya 

[ric_TNT]

I am still giving him the benefit of the doubt, but I won't let his bounced checks' prescriptive period lapse. Have not heard from him lately, nakakabingi ang kanyang katahimikan.

If he would not settle amicably (e.g. lumpsum payment, stagerred payment supported with check replacements or offsetting with a real asset) then I will be contstrained to injunction proceedings.

Pasensyahan na lang, I was not at fault. 

[DomainWink]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme 

[jabulani]

well, in fairness to reden I don't think his' was a scam.  It was more of a failed venture.  I could say that he did spread himself too thin.  Andami nya venture na raket style.  He could have better chances if he concentrated on one money making venture, increased his market and improved his system.  This is typical of newbies who want to put up a business that caters to all.  This strategy won't work in the long run.  Sa proposal pa lang na na-email nya sa min nun, bagsak na pagkakita pa lang ng biz nya.  Didn't even bothered to take a second look.

[mlm_guy02]

^^siguro naman ung celebrity dito ay may nababayaran na kahit paano sa
mga investors.kung wala pa rin ay talagang nagkaron na ng scammers association of the phils.hehehe......