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Hyperacidity, Gastritis, Dyspepsia and Other Stomach Problems

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ingenieure

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ako naman ang reyna ng sakit ngayon ha. pati eto meron ako.

sabi ni dok: every three hours dapat may laman ang tiyan.

kasi daw acidic daw ako tapos pag bumabagsak ang acid sa tiyan at walang naaabutang pagkain na tutunawin, yung stomach ko mismo ang tutunawin niya.

nung bata ako nakakita ako ng picture ng tiyan na kinain ng gastritis. ang panget. kulay white tapos parang butas butas. ewwww.


anyway, hindi ko kasi masunod yung three hours. at dahil sa allergy ko, sobrang limited na lang ang pwede kong kainin. biscuit queen na ako the past few weeks.

chumika naman kayo kung may gastritis din kayo... hehe.


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ingge, ba't parang pareho tayo ng sakit these days? ako nagpacheckup for hyperacidity w/ heartburn... sama mo pa ang borderline hyperthyroidism. balik doctor ulit ako next month for further checkup. daming bawal na lahat pa naman favorite ko.
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ako din nito lang monday super hyperacidity. ang hapdi ng tiyan ko di ko alam kung ano gagawin. kahit na tubig lang inumin ko mahapdi parin. Uminom man ako ng gamot after few hours babalik din. Eto ako ngayon nakakremil-s 3 x a day saka may isa pang medication. Sana matapos na to  :cry:


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may kakilala kaming doctor dito ang sabi niya magtake daw ako dapat ng kremil-s 3x a day then puro soft foods lang pwede kainin for 1 week. di ko pa natry. baka sa holy week pwede -- sama ko na lang sa fasting.


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Eto si Ingge gaya-gaya ng sakit. :rant: :hihi:

Pagdating sa gastritis/hyperacidity, expert ako jan! Hahaha. Buti nga kayo nakukuha sa Kremil S. Ako kasi pag inatake, kailangan talagang i-confine sa ospital. Kasi kahit gamot sinusuka ko pag inaatake ako.

Next time na lang ako magbigay ng mga tips. Tambak pa work ko eh. Basta kain lang muna kayo at wag papalipas ng gutom. :)


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^ hahaha malamang long lost sister talaga kita pati sakit mo kinokopya ko eh. haha.

anyway, i'm thinking of buying a timer kasi dapat every 3 hours may food ako. hayyyy.... hassle hassle nito ang dami daming ginagawa tapos kelangang nakatimer. pwede bang isaksak na lang sa braso yung food supplement habang nagttype ng articles. ang tamad eh noh.  :hihi:


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ako minsan pa lang inatake ng gastritis. uminom kasi ako ng pain reliever kahit walang laman ang tyan ko. ayun.. sumakit talaga siya as in.

ingat lang po tayo sa iniinom nating gamot, usually kasi duon nanggagaling ang gastritis. lalo na kapag yung gamot eh nagiincrease ng production ng hcl.


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^ :welcome: to PMT jookeulae! Tama ka, may mga pain reliever talaga na nakakapagpataas ng acid tulad ng ibuprofen at mefenamic acid. Kaya ako pag may nararamdamang kirot, nidulid ang iniinom ko kasi walang aray sa tyan. :thumbsup2


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^Anti-inflammatory o antacid ba ang Nidulid, ate? Anong generic name? Madalas din akong mangailangan ng ibuprofen lalo pag matindi ang dysmenorrhea, tulad ngayon. :rant:


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^Anti-inflammatory siguro kasi hindi antacid ang Nidulid pero hindi ko rin sure. Generic name yon, Nimesulide ang brand name. Yon ang nireseta sa kin ng doktor para sa dysmenorrhea kasi nga hindi pwede sa kin ang Mefenamic Acid at Ibuprofen. Yun din ang nireseta sa mama ko noong nagpakonsulta sya dahil sa arthritis.

Dati madalas akong uminom ng Ibuprofen (Midol). Yung last na inom ko, namilipit ako sa sakit ng tyan. Sabi ng doktor, nakakasira daw yon ng lining ng stomach kaya tinigilan ko. Baka nga raw yung madalas (every month) na pag-inom ko noon ang naging dahilan kaya lumala hyperacidity ko.

Para naman sa sakit ng tyan, Buscopan ang iniinom ko. Pag hindi tumalab, Novaluzid (yung sinisipsip na lasang toothpaste). Minsan Kremil-S.

Luto na ang katawan ko sa gamot. :hihi:


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hmmmm gastritis  :rant: problem ko din ito pero i have not taken any meds to heal it except when i experienced severe case of heartburn many years ago my doctor prescribed 2 kinds of medicines. From then on when too much acidity gives me too much trouble I just buy these meds over the counter. After a while I stopped taking it and started changing the way I eat. I started eating more vegies, yughort, fruits (papaya, pineapple) and fruit juices ( carrot juice is good! beware of the orangy color on ur skin though hehehe). And did some yoga exercises to help alleviate hyperacidity. Sa awa ng dios nakatulong na man.  :thumbsup2 so I did nto take any meds anymore for years now. If i ate too much,though, bumabalik pero manageable na :gagged: matakaw kasi  


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balik doctor ako ngayon... and since yung 1st medication na ibinigay sa akin hindi effective, nag increase na dosage ko.


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^Nasubukan mo na bang magpa-endoscopy? Ano raw ang cause ng gastritis mo?


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Papasukan ka ng tubo na may camera sa bibig, ibababa hanggang sa bituka.


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^Para makita kung may gasgas, cyst o butas sa wall ng tyan. Yung iba pinapatulog. Ako gising. Matapang ako eh. :D Feel na feel yung tubo. :hihi:

Hanggang stomach lang yung endoscopy. Colonoscopy ang tawag pag x-ray ng bituka.


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^Pang-asar eh. :D

Di pa ko inaatake ngayong 2007. Thank God! Pero nagpapalipas pa rin ako ng gutom. :hihi:


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Oi, wag ka nang palipas ng gutom. Masama sayo yan.


Hanggang stomach lang yung endoscopy. Colonoscopy ang tawag pag x-ray ng bituka.


Nung in-endoscopy kasi ang lola ko non, hanggang small intestine, hanggang duodenum at least. Ine-examine siya non for ulcers.


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^Sa kin kasi hanggang stomach lang. Sabi kasi ng doktor sa kin dati, iba raw pag sa bituka. Magbabayad pa ko uli.


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Ako rin twice na-endoscopy (UST at St. Lukes). Nag-positive ako sa H. Pylori bacteria na nag-ca-cause ng ulcer. Ayun, kaya nag-Triple Therapy ako, meaning 2 klase antibiotics (metronidozole at isang di ko matandaan name) at 1 acid inhibitor (losec) ininom ko for 1 week.

Niweys, colonoscopy naman tawag pag intestine ang titingnan. Sa butt naman padadaanin yun kaya paiinumin ka ng laxative. And you know what follows…Yung iba ata nila-labatibs pa bago yung procedure.  :hihi:


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OT: H. pylori din yung cause ng ulcer ng lola ko non. Ba't endoscopy ang inuunang exam? Di ba may blood test naman for H. pylori?


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^ Nail, at the time na na-endoscopy ako (2001) there were only two ways para malaman kung may H. Pylori ka: 1) thru endoscopy at 2) thru saliva test (urea). The latter di pa ata available satin technology kaya lahat ng doctors endoscopy ang required. You will just be asked to excrete saliva para ma-test for presence of urea, if I remember it right. Presence of urea ata means presence of H. Pylori.

Thru endoscopy naman, the doctor would get a sample tissue from the stomach, and then ilalagay sa isang parang litmus paper. Pag nag-red, positive.


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Niweys, colonoscopy naman tawag pag intestine ang titingnan. Sa butt naman padadaanin yun kaya paiinumin ka ng laxative. And you know what follows…Yung iba ata nila-labatibs pa bago yung procedure.  :hihi:

Yaiks! Kakadiri naman. :yuck: Kakain na nga ako lagi para di ako maganyan. :hihi:  Uminom din pala ako ng Losec dati. Buti nga ikaw for one week lang. Ako dati one month. Ang mahal pa naman nung gamot na yon. Magastos talaga ang magkasakit. Tsk tsk.


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^ Actually, for 3 months ko ininom ata yung losec kase di pa rin ako na-relieve after ng procedure e. And yung losec di rin maganda pakiramdam sa tyan. Kaya tinigil ko. Ang ginawa ko pumunta ako kay Ernie Baron. Nag-cleansing diet ako for 2 days lang ata, kase di ako mabusog sa fruits and veggies lang. Nag-aacid pa rin ako. Edi ginawa ko yung “extreme” and most effective na detox: fasting. Nag-fast ako for 14 days. And then, palagi na ko may dalang tubig para ma-alis ang acid sa tyan. Anytime na may maramdaman ako uminit sa tyan, inom agad tubig para ma-flush. And you know what? It worked. Ganda na ng flora ng tyan ko. Dati di na ko makapag-kape, softdrinks at suka kase masaket sa tyan. Now, I consume them regularly. Of course, palagi pa rin ako may tubig na dala.  :hihi:


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juskow sa butt kamusta naman.  :hihi:

matagal nang nirecommend si ernie baron saken. natatakot lang ako gawin e!  :hihi:


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^ Sayang mam. Dedz na c baron e. :hihi:

Niweys, recommeded nya detox (14-day fasting) once a year. Para lhat ng toxins from eating pork, etc e ma-flush lahat.


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^Hindi ba makakasama yon kasi walang laman ang tyan for 2 weeks? Baka lalong mabutas ang bituka? Pano po ba yon, as in tubig lang talaga? :huh:


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ano ung ke baron na 14 day fasting? vegetable, fruit, fruit juices diet lang ba yan?


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Tubig lang for 2 weeks. Pag nag-acid habang fasting, inom lang ng tubig.

Mabuti sa katawan ang fasting. Kahit tanong mo sa mga doctor beneficial ang fasting from time to time. Kase raw, yung stomach natin dapat din napapahinga sa pagtunaw. Imagine nga naman daw, since birth di na tumigil sa katutunaw ang bituka mo.

Pag fasting ka, walang ibang pagkukunan ng source of energy ang katawan mo, kaya forced sya kunin yun stored fats sa katawan mo. At pag ginawa na yun ng katawan mo, kasama makukuha at ma-fu-flush mga toxins na nakuha mo from the excess acids produced by your stomach and toxins from unhealthy food like pork and beef. That’s called detoxification.

Pati mga nutritionist sa US nga acknowledged ang benefits ng detoxification. Kaya may bigla lumabas na imported products for detox like INTRA. Meron din local like Glo Herbal.

If you can’t stand absolute fasting, next most effective is pag-kain ng uncooked veggies and fruits. Detox din tawag dito. Kaya nag-shift ako sa absolute fasting after 3 days of eating veggies, kase, di rin ako nabubusog. Pagod pa ko sa preparation. Kase pde mo lagyan ng honey yung mga fruits at veggies para may lasa naman. E ala rin effect sa gutom ko.  :hihi:

Ang idea pag under detox ka, dapat wala ka makakain o maiinom na acidic like softdrinks and cooked food. Fyi, all food become acidic or bumababa ang pH pag niluto. Even the water with which you’ll subsist for 2 weeks dapat e mataas ang pH. Ang Alkaline water mas mataas ang pH kesa purified water (cguro 8 – 10). Ang purified kase 5 – 8 ang pH. Kaya Alkaline ka muna habang detox (kahit medyo mapakla ng konti compared sa purified).

Yun nga pla rin ang purpose ng Ernieform or yung triangle na pde mabili sa kanila - pampataas ng pH.

Haba na nito. Just tell me if you want me to share more or want to know ang experience ko nung nag-2-week fasting ako. Post na lang uli ako.  :hihi:
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Pag fasting ka, walang ibang pagkukunan ng source of energy ang katawan mo, kaya forced sya kunin yun stored fats sa katawan mo. At pag ginawa na yun ng katawan mo, kasama makukuha at ma-fu-flush mga toxins na nakuha mo from the excess acids produced by your stomach and

Paano kung walang stored fats? Hindi kaya makaapekto sa health ng magde-detox? :huh:


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Fats are not the issue. The tendency of the body is. It’s because of this natural tendency that the toxins are released.

Anyway, kahit gaano kapayat ang tao, may fats pa rin. :D


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Hindi ka ba parang hinihingal nung nag-fasting ka? Kasi ako pag gutom na gutom, parang may hangin na umaakyat sa dibdib hanggang lalamunan. Tapos nahihirapan na kong huminga. Sabi ng doktor galing daw sa stomach yon. Kasi pag walang laman o konti lang ang laman ng tyan, pinapasukan ng hangin. Baka pag nag-fasting ako ganon mangyari. Lalo lang lumala gastritis ko.


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Baka nag-ha-hyperventilate (sobra huminga) ka or may acid ka na sa tyan, kase nga gutom ka. Actually, pag nagkahangin ang tyan mo, di lang gang dibdib pde pumunta yun. Pde rin dumiretso sa ulo, kaya minsan hazy pakiramdam sabi ni Baron. Ako madalas mag-hyperventilate, resulting to hirap huminga, kase madaling mangawit balikat ko. Pag kase nangawit na (especially dahil sa  pagko-computer), feeling ko di refreshing paghinga ko. So nagha-hyperventilate ako para ma-compensate. Yun nga lang, in minutes hirap na ko huminga kase napuno na tyan at dibdib ko. So what I do is mahiga sa bed and relax my shoulders for 10 min.

Di ko naramdaman ata yung maraming hangin sa tyan habang fasting. Kung meron man, negligible naman. Di rin naman mawawalan talaga laman tyan mo kase nga tubig ipapalit mo.


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Anna, my advise is inom ka na lang lagi muna tubig. Lagi ka magbaon. Don’t let the acid stay long sa sikmura kase acid ang pinagmumulan raw, accdg to Baron, ng lahat halos ng klase ng sakit like gastritis, arthritis, sakit sa balat, migraine, etc. See what happens after at least two months.

Alam mo, kahit may kabag ka na due to acid, pag uminom ka ng substancial amount ng tubig, mawawala yun in minutes. Sanayan lang sa tubig.

And then if you decide to fast, remember the 3rd or 4th day ang pinakamahirap. Magpapawis ka ng malagkit at grumble ng grumble tyan mo. Ito kase yung time na nagpapalit na ng source of energy yung body mo (from stomach food to “stored food”). After non, stable na.  :D


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^Ok salamat sa advice. Pero pinag-iisipan ko pa. Kasi baka manghina ako kasi walang source ng energy dahil walang pagkain. Unless magpa-dextrose ako habang nag-fa-fasting. :hihi: Parang yung mga nagha-hunger strike, hunger strike daw pero may dextrose. :D


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Just take it easy. You have to properly prepare your body and  mind when you decide to go on fasting. Normally, it is advised that you start with an overnight fast, then extend it later on hanggang makaya mo na ung 14 day fast. Dapat hindi biglaan pag fasting mo. And also you should know how to properly break your fast. If you dont you will become sick.


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Preparing to fast:

Reduce gradually what you eat 1 to 2 weeks prior to fasting period, para lumiit ang stomach mo at masanay sa konti laman. Pag kase marami ka kinakain, lumalaki ang stomach at nasasanay sa marami laman (dami rin acid pag nagutom), kaya rin matagal ka mabusog pag kumakain.

Breaking a fast:

Soft diet lang for the whole day. No solids muna. Panay soup lang. Next day, pde na solids like bread sa morning. Sa dinner, pde na kahit ano basta in moderation pa rin, kase maliit pa ang stomach mo. Sasakit yan pag binigla mo. In the next few days, damihan mo na gradually.


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preparing and breaking fast.... vegies and fruits r best to prepare and break the fast ( that is if ur allowed to eat solid food na in breaking the fast).. try to eat banana in little munches to slough off those acids and toxins remaining in ur stomach and intestines. Do  not eat meat yet it might get u sick


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Share ko din paano nagamot hyperacidity ko din 2 years na emotional stress ako dito. ni-advice sa akin pag busog uminom ng apple vinegar para ma nutralize ang kinain at pag gabi uminom ng sesame seed oil para sa lining. Uminom din ng vit. c o kumain ng fruits para maghilom. At pag may honeybee mas maganda din pang gamot. Yun lang ginawa ko lahat ng alak ngayun pwede ko ng ng inumin.


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@ alkano.. apple cider vinegar ba ginamit mo? Ano specifically regimen ginawa mo? ilan days or weeks mo ginawa? Vit C can actually heal hyperacidity caused by certain type of bacteria ata.....

 :harhar: wag ka na masyado mag aalak at baka bumalik hyperacidity mo.


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ano lang boss pag busog lang ako dun ako umiinom ng apple vinegar para tumulong magtunaw 1 tablespoon lang at tubig kasi maasim. ang paginom kasi ng antacid na tableta ay di maganda para sa akin lalo pag marami  nakain maging waste lang dahil kulang sa panunaw kaya di rin maganda ang kalalabasan.


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hmm ok thanks  @ alkano  :hihi: magamit nga sa lettuce salad dressing yang apple vinegar heheh vit c na din ung lettuce eh


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di pa ako nakakatikim niyang apple cider vinegar na yan...  :hihi:

totoo ba na masama ang kape pag may gastritis ka?


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hmm inge basahin mo ito a study on the effect of coffee in gastric problems: http://www.teeccino.com/gitract.aspx


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naspeedread ko na... hmmmm buti na lang hot chocolate lang ininom ko this morning...


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OMG! nagcoffee na naman ako for breakfast today and softdrinks yesterday. yan na yata ang pinakamahirap na fasting for me. ayaw kong magpaendoscopy. hehe... nahihirapan na nga akong uminom ng gamot yun pa kaya. anyway, yung nireseta sa akin eh ulcepraz 40mg and motilium. probably stress related na naman. ayoko ng uminom ng gamot.. try ko kayang magdetox or magfasting?! hmm...


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kung magfafasting ka, parang masama yata yun dear. kasi lalong walang tutunawin yung acids sa tiyan mo. crackers fast, at the very least. basta don't leave your stomach completely empty...


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hehehe... iniisip ko pa lang parang di ko kaya. sa payat kong ito, di mahahalatang matakaw ako.  :D nagsimula yata to nung always akong overeating eh. i've read masama rin daw yun.


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OK ang fasting. Even the Bible recommends it. Remember Jesus fasted for 40 days and 40 nights.

I swear, I almost died having gastritis and hyperacidity. My work was in jeopardy for almost 1 year. Patay buhay ako sa work ko (we’re talking here months at a time). Di lang nila ako ma-fire kase they had to follow lengthy labor procedures.

Tried everything. You name it: inhibitors (losec), antacids (Maalox, Novalucid, etc), acidophilus, Glo Herbal, etc. I spent over a hundred thou in consultations and medicines. I even went to Gary Sy’s Life Extension Center in Manila (nung di pa sya sikat) and availed of expensive medicines used also by prominent people who came to him, like Imelda Marcos, etc. Even had citiscan. Went to prominent hospitals like St. Luke’s, Heart Center and UST.

Baron, water and detox were my last option. And it worked, of course, with God’s grace.

There was this story nga napa-nod ko sa TV. A man was diagnosed to have some form of incurable disease (nakalimutan ko na), and had only about a month to live. What he did was go up a mountain to spend the rest of his days communing with God and NOT EATING ANYTHING. He just practically went there to die. After a month, he came down still alive and CURED.

What happened? You tell me.  :watchuthink:


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@ dwin, actually ung 14 day fast is the fast that can heal certain ailments.

@ pink wy dont u try eating yughort every morning?


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^ok ba talaga yung yoghurt every morning? anong klaseng yoghurt -- katulad nung sa nestle?


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Maasim ang yoghurt di ba? I think it will make you more acidic.

Niweyz, the 14-day fast is not for everyone. Dami nako kilala, including my mom, who tried it pero di lumampas ng 3rd day. I believe, too, it can heal many ailments, but it’s not a cure-all. Certainly, it won’t heal your pilay or baldness, but it’s appropriate for migraine, gastritis, ulcer, skin allergies, diabetes, etc.

As I said, it was my last resort. Try water therapy (lagi ka may bit-bit na tubig kahit saan to “wash away” the acid, anytime your stomach acts up) muna for an initial 2 to 6 months, and see the effect. It’s very cheap, and in my opinion, very sensible.


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no yughort has the natural microorganism that helps the stomach function well.

yeah like nestle yughort or u can make ur own para mas mura


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If you want to keep the balance (flora) of micro-organisms sa tyan mo, acidophilus is better. It's in the form of capsules that you can buy from any GNC or Healthy Options stores. Di naman kase masarap ang lasa ng yoghurt and hassle to eat.

Acidophilus bacteria are similar to the ones you can find in Yakult and, yes, yoghurts. The advantage of the former is its ease in administration/consumption (in capsules kase), and of course, price.


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parang gusto ko ring i-try yung fasting/water therapy ni dwin ah, feeling ko rin daming toxins sa katawan ko e... di ba tayo himatayin sa gutom nun? isip ko pa, baka balde-balde maubos kong tubig to satisfy my big hungry stomach pag nagparamdam mga alaga ko sa tyan...


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Just beware of taking acidophilus capsules check first the ingredients baka meron dun na allergic ka.


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ingat kayo sa fasting. it's not for everyone.  i had a friend who was hospitalized after undergoing water therapy for 2 weeks.


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yeah its not for every1. not for diabetics and other patients wt critical medical condition


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Natatakot din akong mag-fasting kasi baka di ko kayanin. Pag gutom pa naman ako, sumasakit din ulo ko.

Re Yakult naman, sumasakit tyan ko pag umiinom ako non. Lalong hindi nagiging "ok ka ba tyan".

Wala na bang ibang ways para mapagaling ang hyperacidity/gastritis?


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Yup, it’s not for everyone. Iba-iba rin naman kase capacity ng tao. Ako, I thought I wouldn’t be able to go thru it. But as I said, it was my last resort, so kinailangan ko kayanin. In God’s grace, nalampasan ko naman.

In the middle nga ng fasting naka-nood pa ko ng tennis sa court (addict kase sa tennis  :hihi:).

Linaw ko lang po, yung water therapy na sinasabi ko is different from the 14-day fast. Ang ibig ko pong sabihin, sa water therapy ay palagi ka lang iinom ng tubig pag may naramdaman ka acid sa tyan. Don’t let it stay there for more than 30 sec. Pag na-wash away iyon agad, di na mag-ca-cause ng discomfort sa tyan. Nagiging weak din kase ang tyan pag palagi drenched sa body acid, and it also causes chronic gastritis. Normal eating routine ka pa rin. But, of course, you should shun softdrinks, iced tea, coffee, etc. (anything di hiyang ang tyan mo).

Do this religiously, and expect relief.

Nakaka-shock talaga to know na ina-advise ni Baron ang 14-day fasting kahit sa diabetic. It’s very unorthodox.

Anyway, 2 klase ang diabetis: type 1 and 2. Type 2, I think, ang sinasabi ni Baron. I don’t also think it’s applicable sa type-1. If you have serious ailments, you should attend first in one of their seminars before attempting the 14-day fasting.


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@ anna try mo ung ginagawa kong overnite fast... pag starter ka pa lang just drink milk and eat fruits and vegies whole day (actually from sunset to sunset ung fast). No meat, junkfoods etc. pag nasanay na katawan mo try mo na alisin ung ibang food items dun hanggan maiwan na lang ung milk. just properly prepare and break for ur fast.

and change ur diet and lifestyle kasi mostly diet and lifestyle ang cause ng hyperacidity eh. eat more fruits and vegies, sa akin i reduced my carbo intake lalo na ang rice, eliminate ko din softdrink at iba pang commercialized drinks & foods, carrot juice is good for hyperacidity also


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^Thanks oishidu! :thankyou: Pero nagloloko ang tyan ko pag umiinom ako ng gatas. Malakas din ako sa kanin at konti sa ulam. Kaya kung babawasan ko ang kanin, wala na akong kukunan ng energy. Sa softdrinks naman, wala akong problema jan kasi matagal na kong di umiinom ng kahit ano bukod sa tubig, minsan iced tea. Siguro try ko rin yung water therapy. :)


 


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