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TRAPIK IN and AROUND METRO MANILA

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on: Oct 24, 2016, 08:37 AM
Just so we're on the same page ...

TRAPIK, as used by most Pinoys, means heavy traffic, traffic jams or slow moving traffic


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Reply #1 on: Oct 24, 2016, 08:39 AM
It seems that trapik is not getting any better yet.
Nowadays, everyday is trapik day.
Siguro Sunday lang ang medyo maluwag as long as you stay away from mall areas.


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Reply #2 on: Oct 24, 2016, 08:49 AM
This is the reason I rarely go out.  If I do, i'd rather take a cab.

Hindi ba pwede ipagbawal na ung mga downpayment / installment scheme sa pagbili ng sasakyan.    Majority of cars on the road are brand new.  And I'd assume only 1% pays in full.

Ang dali bumili ng sasakyan pag utang.  Kaya lalo nag tratraffic.

Extend coding hours, people who can loan another car will buy another one for coding purposes.

Prevent addition of cars should be the temporary solution until we can get proper urban planning in place.


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Reply #3 on: Oct 24, 2016, 12:09 PM
^^^^ Malabo yan lalo na at selling like hot cakes ang mga kotse. Magrereklamo mga car vendors kung babawasan ang kita nila

Parang this year lang ata announced ng car industry na tumaas ng 30% ang sales nila. Imagine, kung gaano karaming sasakyan yun na dumagdag. Malaking porsyento jan walang garahe.
Kaya makikita mo yung mga secondary roads e double parking na. Ngayon kung isasabatas na dapat part ng pagkakaroon ng kotse e magkaroon ng garahe, maraming pinoy ang magpapakita lang ng pekeng lugar na paggagarahean.

Ang pinakamabilis na paraan para mabawasan ang kotse ay magkaroon ng second coming of Ondoy.... Pero syempre sino ba may gusto non.....

Una, dapat wala nang 7 - 7 na oras sa coding. Totally whole day na dapat. Pangalawa, gandahan ang mass transportation yung tipong mas gugustuhin mo mag commute kesa magkaroon ng sariling kotse. Third, dapat parang kasing halaga ng Makati ang parking fee sa lahat ng parte ng Pilipinas.


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Reply #4 on: Oct 24, 2016, 12:58 PM
^^^

may point ka, yan din kasi problema ko sa solution na na suggest ko.   i'm sure madami sa mga car retailers may mga kapit sa gobyerno.  makakagawa at makakagawa sila ng way magbenta.

at ung mga walang parking, makakakagawa at makakagawa na magpakita ng pekeng papeles or what pag naimplement ung no garage no car policy.

i doubt good transpo will ease traffic, kailangan talaga icontrol ung supply tulad sa singapore.  make cars 300% more expensive.  make it only affordable to a few.  tapos ung kalsada, make it paid per entry.  sigurado marami mag 2 isip mag dala ng sasakyan.

d lang sa manila problema ng traffic.   sana masolusyonan ito ng tama


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Reply #5 on: Oct 24, 2016, 02:02 PM
Dapat mas striktong coding, pag Monday 1&2 lang ang pwede, Tuesday 3&4.. and so on, iilan lang naman ang may kayang bumili ng 5 kotse ...


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Reply #6 on: Oct 24, 2016, 02:18 PM
Effective kaya ung sa pasig?  Ung odd mwf only.  Even tths or something like that?  Baka pwede iapply nationwide


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Reply #7 on: Oct 24, 2016, 02:53 PM
Hindi pwede s aatin ang SIngapore formula.
Paano kung taga Zamboanga ka, bakit ka magbabayad ng addl tax kung hindi naman sobrang trapik dyan?


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Reply #8 on: Oct 24, 2016, 02:56 PM
Mass transport ang solution pero matagal ang implementation.


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Reply #9 on: Oct 24, 2016, 03:05 PM
^^^

if ayaw ng taga zamboanga ng higher taxes stay sila doon.

medyo maliit kasi singapore as an example.   siguro maganda mga state sa US, different state, different tax rate.  different toll rates.

sa manila, since sobra daming tao, taasan taxes, taasan tolls. 


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Reply #10 on: Oct 24, 2016, 03:06 PM
Mass transport ang solution pero matagal ang implementation.

agree to mas transport.  with proper control.  hindi ung parang lrt, lrt2, mrt natin.  puno na pilit parin pagkasyahin tao sa loob.  sana may counter per entry.  max number of person per train stop lang pwede makapasok sa entrance (electronic naman ung entrance may etap etc so dapat kaya to gawin)


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Reply #11 on: Oct 24, 2016, 03:46 PM
Tanggalin ang colorum buses. I-ban ang mga kotse na 15years old na ang tanda.

Yung local government mga bulag. kitang kita naman yung problema ng mga nagpaparada sa daan di man lang higpitan. Kung di pwede ipagbawal ang paggagarahe sa daan, e di pagusapan na bigyan na lang ng isang linya kung saan sila magpaparada.


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Reply #12 on: Oct 24, 2016, 03:53 PM
hay hirap kasi ang lakas mag lagay ng mga buses, jeeps, etc.

iniisip ko nga, what if lahat ng private vehicle owners magsama sama, sila mag lagay ngayon sa gobyerno, baka mas malaki ang lagay maibigay natin kesa dyan sa mga may ari ng mga colorum etc


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Reply #13 on: Oct 24, 2016, 09:02 PM
^^^

if ayaw ng taga zamboanga ng higher taxes stay sila doon.

medyo maliit kasi singapore as an example.   siguro maganda mga state sa US, different state, different tax rate.  different toll rates.

sa manila, since sobra daming tao, taasan taxes, taasan tolls.

Toll siguro pwede, pero car tax, malabo kasi it won't be justifiable.
In the end, the only way to lessen the number of cars on the road is to provide an acceptable alternative - mass transport or work at home


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Reply #14 on: Oct 24, 2016, 09:09 PM
Actually minsan mga drivers sa roads natin nakakainis din.
Complain nang complain about slow traffic pero kung mag drive slow motion din kahit wala naman cars sa harap nila.

Those of us who had been abroad must have noticed how fast cars move over there compared to here.


 


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