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Survey: Who will you vote for as VICE-PRESIDENT in the 2016 elections?

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Who will you vote for as VICE-PRESIDENT in the 2016 elections?

Alan Peter Cayetano
28 (25%)
Chiz Escudero
6 (5.4%)
Gringo Honasan
0 (0%)
Bongbong Marcos
37 (33%)
Leni Robredo
37 (33%)
Antonio Trillanes
2 (1.8%)
Others
2 (1.8%)

Total Members Voted: 112

freefront

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[Quote from: george88 on Yesterday at 07:00 PM]
Duterte and Leni should win its like your Boss Dad and Loving Mom...

[quote from bauer]
^Kawawa si Leni.  Ang babaero maliit ang tingin sa mga babae.

^^^ Or as it goes with Boss Dad and Loving Mom---

Dad: Go ask your Mom ( para hindi mabawasan ang goodwill points)
Mom: Anong sabi ng Dad mo? ( Does not say anything for a looooonnng time  :D)

Alam na  :watchuthink:


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For VP, I consider Cayetano. Because for me, siya lang ang pinaka visible at active na senator na nakita ko for the current term. And I'm hoping na he'll do better than that when he wins as VP. :)


bajoyjoy

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Teka ka lang. What's the job description for the VP? Do you think it would be fitting to say that it would be a "good punishment' for Honasan?

What's the deal with Cayetano? Without visiting the sin of the father on him, of course.

VP becomes cabinet member, iaappoint to head a certain department he/she is fit or prefers.

Pero pwede din macompare sa Ms Universe, ung 1st runner up (VP) is spare tire in case Ms. Universe fails to fulfill her role hahaha.

So if Poe is allowed to run and wins, subsequently disqualified, the elected VP will succeed/assume the Prez role. That kinda explains why Chiz convinced poe to run as Pres., to effectively eliminate her as a VP opponent. And if luck is really on his side, Poe gets disqualified after winning, lipat bigla ang korona k Chiz, walang kahirap hirap. Halata nyo ba na halos iniwan na nya si Poe to fend for herself pagtapos nyang sulsulan na tumakbo as Pres.? Ngayon he wont even comment or advise her how to handle her DQ case? This also shows kung gaano kahilaw at bagitong talaga si Poe, nagoyo sya nang harapan ni Chiz na alam naman nang lahat gano katuso.

Duterte and Leni should win its like your Boss Dad and Loving Mom...

Masyado yata itong sexist, or makaluma na pagtingin? Baka maoffend mo mga housebands dito, hehehe.

Btw, based on the latest businessworld survey, chiz still leads at 30%, leni and bbm at 19%, alan 17%...

Laki nang inakyat ni leni (from 4 to 2 spot).. also look at the charts ng monthly survey results, her trendline trajectory is upwards and ready to breakout! Wooohoo! Konting push pa! Responsible netizens, unite and campaign online for Leni! #LeniForVP #LabanLeni
« Last Edit: Dec 23, 2015, 06:25 PM by bajoyjoy »


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Btw, based on the latest businessworld survey, chiz still leads at 30%, leni and bbm at 19%, alan 17%...

Laki nang inakyat ni leni (from 4 to 2 spot).. also look at the charts ng monthly survey results, her trendline trajectory is upwards and ready to breakout! Wooohoo! Konting push pa! Responsible netizens, unite and campaign online for Leni! #LeniForVP #LabanLeni

Pansin mo bjj, as of today, yun pmt survey na 0 votes for pres and vp, siya ang number one sa labas... Binay and Cheez... hehe


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pssttt jen! Baka si Alan nga ang manalo. Half German ang mokong   :hihi:#pilit tie-up sa Ms. Universe

10 things to know about Alan Peter Cayetano
What you may not know about 2016 vice presidential candidate Alan Peter Cayetano

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj02u6J6PPJAhVGYaYKHTz_BVAQFggdMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rappler.com%2Fnewsbreak%2Fiq%2F107438-fast-facts-alan-peter-cayetano&usg=AFQjCNFicqjYzmF0cQ7lHreT77IO-_NCLg&sig2=Ln7dY4CYnsXSF2h37dWjgQ

@bjj- that's why I said before, why make Honasan or Trillanes your VP if you are running for the Presidency  :D

So, if no President dies under questionable circumstances or due to natural causes( you know I've watched too much black ops themed tv  :hihi:), Honasan as VP is sitting on a chair that's being licked by the fires of hell. So near, yet so far  :evil:


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Pansin mo bjj, as of today, yun pmt survey na 0 votes for pres and vp, siya ang number one sa labas... Binay and Cheez... hehe

May naglakas loob na magsalita kanina laban kay Ahascudero, hopefully unti-unti na rin syang mademolish so that come May 2016, konti na lang malinlang...

In the mean time, laban lang Leni!!!

http://politics.com.ph/better-watch-out-chiz-sws-mangahas-says-leni-is-dark-horse-in-vp-race/

Senator Francis Escudero might be the consistent frontrunner in the vice presidential race in surveys conducted over the past few months, but this doesn’t mean he’s already the runaway winner in the 2016 elections.

Of the voter preference polls conducted by the Social Weather Stations (SWS) from Dec. 12 to 14, survey firm president Mahar Mangahas found Camarines Sur Rep. Leni Robredo’s ascent to second place the most interesting because of the seven-point increase she gained from the 12 points she posted in November.

At 19 points, the Liberal Party’s vice presidential candidate is now tied with Senator Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr. for the second place.

In less than a month’s time, Mangahas said Robredo has managed to zoom past Senator Alan Peter Cayetano, who was initially ahead of her by nine points in the previous survey.

Marcos’ current rating, meanwhile, is a five-point decrease from the 24 points he scored last November.

Overall, Robredo’s ratings have risen by 16 points from the 3 percent she posted in November, the first time her name was included in the survey for vice presidential candidates.

Mulling over the surge in Robredo’s ratings, Mangahas said: “He (Escudero) stays in first, with a bigger lead over Marcos and Cayetano now but must watch out for the surging Robredo who has cut her deficit from 18 points to only 11.”


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Ang alam ko kapag na disqualify yung nanalong president., yung next presidential candidate with the next highest vote ang magiging president and not the VP. Ang VP magiging prex lang kung mamatay, may health conditions, at ma-impeach si President


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Wow, nakakatuwa naman yan result ng survey. Sana ganyan din sa buong Pilipinas!


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Ang alam ko kapag na disqualify yung nanalong president., yung next presidential candidate with the next highest vote ang magiging president and not the VP. Ang VP magiging prex lang kung mamatay, may health conditions, at ma-impeach si President


Under Article VII of the 1987 Constitution:

Section 7. The President-elect and the Vice President-elect shall assume office at the beginning of their terms.

If the President-elect fails to qualify, the Vice President-elect shall act as President until the President-elect shall have qualified.

If a President shall not have been chosen, the Vice President-elect shall act as President until a President shall have been chosen and qualified.

If at the beginning of the term of the President, the President-elect shall have died or shall have become permanently disabled, the Vice President-elect shall become President.

Where no President and Vice-President shall have been chosen or shall have qualified, or where both shall have died or become permanently disabled, the President of the Senate or, in case of his inability, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, shall act as President until a President or a Vice-President shall have been chosen and qualified.

The Congress shall, by law, provide for the manner in which one who is to act as President shall be selected until a President or a Vice-President shall have qualified, in case of death, permanent disability, or inability of the officials mentioned in the next preceding paragraph.

Section 8. In case of death, permanent disability, removal from office, or resignation of the President, the Vice-President shall become the President to serve the unexpired term. In case of death, permanent disability, removal from office, or resignation of both the President and Vice-President, the President of the Senate or, in case of his inability, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, shall then act as President until the President or Vice-President shall have been elected and qualified.

The Congress shall, by law, provide who shall serve as President in case of death, permanent disability, or resignation of the Acting President. He shall serve until the President or the Vice-President shall have been elected and qualified, and be subject to the same restrictions of powers and disqualifications as the Acting President.


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So tama nga, if the candidate for president with the most number of votes gets disqualified, then the candidate with the next highest number of votes shall become president, since the latter will be the qualified president elect.

The winning vice president will only act as president if no candidate for president was proclaimed at the prescribed time required.


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 @wilch23, if the quote verbatim posted by byy is accurate, hindi binaggit anywhere na panalo ang presidential candidate with the next highest vote kapag ang president elect fails to qualify.

 


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For VP, I consider Cayetano. Because for me, siya lang ang pinaka visible at active na senator na nakita ko for the current term. And I'm hoping na he'll do better than that when he wins as VP. :)

Alan Peter CAYETANO.

He did his homework as I have observed for the televised senate hearings. Well educated and talks sensibly. And he might be a good foreign secretary too.

Hahaha, much improved na sya compared to when he first went live on air, but that was only because of the depth whence he came from!


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@wilch23, if the quote verbatim posted by byy is accurate, hindi binaggit anywhere na panalo ang presidential candidate with the next highest vote kapag ang president elect fails to qualify.

Actually it does say so right there.



Under Article VII of the 1987 Constitution:

Section 7. The President-elect and the Vice President-elect shall assume office at the beginning of their terms.

The term "-elect" here means the guy won the election but has not yet been sworn into office.

If the President-elect fails to qualify, the Vice President-elect shall act as President until the President-elect shall have qualified.

So here the winner of the presidential election is disqualified and will not be sworn into office, aka he can't sit as president. The VP-elect will ACT, not substitute for, (acting only) until the President-elect (The next guy with the highest number of votes. Why shld this still be the one with the highest number of votes since he was DQed already?) shall have qualified.

If a President shall not have been chosen, the Vice President-elect shall act as President until a President shall have been chosen and qualified.

See how this line reinforces the previous line about choosing a(nother) President (who is qualified)?

If at the beginning of the term of the President, the President-elect shall have died or shall have become permanently disabled, the Vice President-elect shall become President.

Here the term has begun, so the VP becomes the successor.



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In short, Chiz can sit as president only if both he and Grace won their respective elections, and were sworn in as VP and Pres respectively.
Then Grace will have to be DQed so Chiz can sit as Pres.

3 events need to happen here with the 1st and 2nd acting as pre-requisites for the 3rd before Chiz can become President, while the 3rd event can happen or not with no relation to the first 2 events.

So now you're saying this is the plan of Chiz?
Grace is 30-70 to win and 50-50 to be DQed before the election.
Meanwhile Chiz is also 40-60 on winning the VP race.
More than certain is that SC will rule on the qualification of Grace BEFORE the election.
IS that a DIABOLICAL plan, as in a movie thriller?
Or a very DUMB plan?
Who then planned it?
« Last Edit: Mar 03, 2016, 10:33 PM by wilch23 »


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Soooooo.....which is it going to be? Parang Baranggay election lang na ang susunod na kagawad with the highest vote will sit as Baranggay Chairman pag patay/DQ'ed/permanently disabled ang elected kapitan or according to this,

"If at the beginning of the term of the President, the President-elect shall have died or shall have become permanently disabled, the Vice President-elect shall become President."

Si VP ang magiging Pres.

Naguluhan ako dyan sa huli na yan. "If at the beginning.........." How many days remaining sa term ng president who died bago mag-call ng bagong election? Pag lumampas ng 3 years, election na ulit?

[quote from wilch]

Quote from: bajoyjoy on Jan 12, 2016, 03:55 PM


Under Article VII of the 1987 Constitution:

Section 7. The President-elect and the Vice President-elect shall assume office at the beginning of their terms.

The term "-elect" here means the guy won the election but has not yet been sworn into office.

^You are anchoring on the start of their terms?

If the President-elect fails to qualify, the Vice President-elect shall act as President until the President-elect shall have qualified.

So here the winner of the presidential election is disqualified and will not be sworn into office, aka he can't sit as president. The VP-elect will ACT, not substitute for, (acting only) until the President-elect (The next guy with the highest number of votes. Why shld this still be the one with the highest number of votes since he was DQed already?) shall have qualified.

^ It's the same guy that needs to overturn the DQ.

If a President shall not have been chosen, the Vice President-elect shall act as President until a President shall have been chosen and qualified.

See how this line reinforces the previous line about choosing a(nother) President (who is qualified)?

^ Yes, but it did not explicitly say the presidential bet with the highest vote. Nor did it say, "pass your papers and you can sit as President since you are the second best popular." It didn't say "chosen by a commission" or by a special election.

If at the beginning of the term of the President, the President-elect shall have died or shall have become permanently disabled, the Vice President-elect shall become President.

Here the term has begun, so the VP becomes the successor.

This is the only clear line where it says the VP-elect can become the president. And since you anchored on "taken the oath of office- its the beginning of their term" avenue, then the President is a marked man on day one.

What if it means, "early days" like 100- 730 days?  Will there be a snap election for the Presidency to serve the next 4 years?

I just think we need some yellow color.

Can't see white unless you forgo being lazy. I dare you  :watchuthink: Here:

Patriotism for the day  :D



 


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