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I really don't wanna waste my time for these two nuthuggers here pero cge patulan natin.

Sasabihin mo ngayon MAMANGMALDITO na ang USANA kahit binary, since matagal na sila at proven na ang systema, GOOD sila sayo. Ngayon, bakit puro negative ang lumalabas sa bibig mo pagdating sa UNO? Na kaka  2 yrs pa lang at malaki naman ang potential to prove itself na maglalast sila. Don't you think you're being unfair and biased? Hindi ba dapat nagsasalita ka ng mga ganyan pag bumagsak na talaga ang UNO? SINO BA KAYO  PARA SABIHING CGURADONG BABAGSAK ANG ISANG KUMPANYA? Hindi ba dumaan din yang mga kumpanya nyo sa stage na kailangan din nilang iprove na magtatagal sila? WALA BANG KARAPATANG I PROVE NG MGA TAGA UNO NA TAMA ANG PINANINIWALAAN NILA? Diyos ba kayo?

Kitang kitang naman eh, bakit puro negative at puro discouragement ang mga pinagsasabi nyo Kasi your motives -  SIRAAN ANG UNO.

Kung hindi talaga kayo BAYARAN, why can't you just understand na iba-iba ang preferred ng mga tao? You don't expect everyone to use safeguard dahil sila lang ang certified ng PAMET. You can't say everybody should drink Coke dahil Coke ang sikat sa buong mundo. You get my point? Kung gusto ng ibang tao mag UNO at naniniwala sila dito. Hayaan nyo at wag i discourage. Kung annoying sa inyo yung mga bumabalandrang mga sasakyan sa ADB ave. Well sorry, dahil sa iba, INSPIRATION AT PANGARAP ang mga tingin nila dito. Masama bang suportahan nalang natin sila?

At wag nyong sabihing UNO lang ang nangingidnap at kung ano ano pang strategy sa networking. Can you really say na hindi na gagawa yan sa SUSANA at DXN? Lalo na yung nag sisimula palang din tong mga kumpanyang to? Magpakatotoo kayo!

This thread is supposedly to guide the people, compare the marketing plans, share the advantages and disadvantages ng systema ng UNO.. Pero tingnan nyo nga mga pinagpopost nyo dito. Matatawag nyo bang GUIDANCE yan? Puro basura at paninira mga pinagsasabi ninyo eh. Tapos SABAY MAG PO PROMOTE kayo ng  DXN at SUSANA. Sinong NILOKO nyo? Sino kaya MAPANGLINLANG?

You guys act like you know everything and you guys talk like your companies are perfect. Again, SINONG PINAGLOLOKO nyo? Hindi na ako magkukwento ng negative stories sa DXN and USANA. Dahil hindi naman ako kasing kitid ninyo eh. Good luck nalang to all Filipino networkers whether you're from USANA, DXN or UNO.  

WAG KAYONG MAGPAPANIWALA SA DALAWANG MOKONG NATO.

IF YOU HAVE A DREAM. GO GET IT. PERIOD.


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Baka makatulong din... Source: http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=376708   :boxing:

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Another Filipino Network Marketing company! Scam na naman iyan!

Yeah it's true na may kumikita nga ng ganun kaya lang, lokohan lang iyan para lang masabing network marketing. There are some legitimate network marketing company there are some not.

Like uno u pay almost P8,000 yet ang product mo wala pa sa P4,000! They will claim na asa P8,000 iyan pero ang totoo wala pa. Try to compute and compare it sa market, or mag research ka sa internet.

Ganito kasi iyan! You pay P8,000 or P7,000++ tapos iyun product mo mga P3,000 lang so P7,000 - P3,000 = P4,000, nguan ang tanong ko saan napunta un P4,000?

Ang sagot diyan un P4,000 mapupunta sa mga nagrecruit sayo, paghahatian nila iyun. So yung P4,000 yung ang pangbigay nila sa little pyramid nila.

ang legitimate na network marketing company, usually kapag nagjoin ka, parang bumibili ka lang din ng product. Let us say yun value nun product is P4,000 edi dapat P4,000 din un registration mo.

You just buy a product to become a distributor!

If sasali ka sa UNO make sure, na hindi sila magsasara after 3-5years.

Ganyan ang mga Filipino network marketing companies eh, lagi nagsasara pano scam un sistema nila.

ang karamihan defense lang nila na hindi sila pyramiding ay dahil may product sila!

Tandaan mo, importante na alamin mo un value nun product and try to compute it.

Another thing, ask what is their system, if hindi nila masabi... unreliable yan.. dapat sa MLM companies.. sinasabi nila un.. para d mag mukang ignorant ang distributors.. kasi un lang ang DAPAT


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ikaw na mamangmaldito ang madaming alam.. ikaw na ang magaling.. hahahahaha  :harhar:


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ikaw na mamangmaldito ang madaming alam.. ikaw na ang magaling.. hahahahaha  :harhar:


Yan lang ba kaya mong sabihin? Anyway...  :thankyou:


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sa lahat ng post mo dito.. pinalalabas mo na ikaw ang pinaka madaming alam pag dating sa MLM.. bakit hindi ka mag tayo ng sarili mong company.. hindi puro batikos sa ibang MLM company..


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what he meant for checks yata ay chicks  :D


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nawala si mamang maldito ah..  :applause: dapat gumawa siya ng book about sa MLM.. hindi puro batikos ung ibang MLM company sa pinas.. mamangmadito  :harhar:


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Madami na rin thread about UNO sa iba't ibang forum. Unfortunately nagiging hate thread ang dating. :(

Yung mga taga UNO instead na sabihin nila na lagi silang sinisiraan, sana explain na lang nila yung side nila. Explain nila how they can sustain their system. Madami na nag explain on how the UNO system will NOT work, pero wala pa akong nakitang explanation on how it WILL work (or meron nga ba, baka na-miss ko lang).



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nawala si mamang maldito ah..  Applause dapat gumawa siya ng book about sa MLM.. hindi puro batikos ung ibang MLM company sa pinas.. mamangmadito  Harharhar


At least meron akong na co-contribute about MLM system e ikaw? Puro ka hangin... kasalanan ko ba kung magmukhang katiting ang utak mo sa mga post ko? Pag aralan mo kasi yung sinasabi ko para may masabi ka namang medyo may sense kahit papaano.


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Madami na rin thread about UNO sa iba't ibang forum. Unfortunately nagiging hate thread ang dating. Sad

Yung mga taga UNO instead na sabihin nila na lagi silang sinisiraan, sana explain na lang nila yung side nila. Explain nila how they can sustain their system. Madami na nag explain on how the UNO system will NOT work, pero wala pa akong nakitang explanation on how it WILL work (or meron nga ba, baka na-miss ko lang).



Exactly my point! Imbes na mang asar lang kayong mga taga UNO, e di ilabas nyo galing nyo... puro kayo Saya... Puro Pa-looking good effect... E bat di nyo na lang sagutin ang mga banat ng critics nyo kung may masasagot kayo... puro naman kayo Tameme pag dating sa plan ng company nyo miski kayo di nyo ma explain. Ano silbi nyo?

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naghahanda pa si sir mamang maldito ng sasabihin kaya maghanda ka rin segurado bubwelta yon.


Tuwing pumapasok ako sa isang diskusyon, palagi akong handa at alam ko yung sinasagot ko para pwede kung sagutin ang mga tanong sa akin at any given time. Pero yung mga taga UNO, ilang beses ko na binabanatan ng tanong pero wala namang sagot. Wag kayong magalit kung marami akong alam... kung sa tingin nyo maganda ang UNO at dapat nga syang salihan e di post kung bakit? Pero dapat mapanindigan nyo yun at handa rin kayo sa mga magtatanong sa inyo para di naman kayo magmukhang eng-eng...


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Sana experto ako para ma explain ko rito tulad nila sir kaso hindi eh. Isa lang ang nakikita kung dahilan bakit ang Marketing plan ang pinuntirya ng mga kritiko ng UNO dahil naiingit seguro kasi sobrang saya kasi sa UNO. Yon kasi nakita ko kagabi noong nagpunta ako sa Megamall to observe sa ginagawang UNO Sales Orientation (USO). Parang gusto ko naring Maki-USO.



Yung saya na pinaparamdam ng UNO sayo... natural yun, para makapag sign up ka sa kanila. Kahit saang MLM ka pumunta ganun talaga... nagkataon lang na ang focus ng UNO ay mga studyande at kabataan (Bakit, kasi mas madali silang masilaw sa karangyaan, pakitaan mo lang ng kotseng naka set up hahanga na agad). Marketing plan ang pinupuntirya ko dahil iyon ang bubuhay sa company ng isang MLM. Kung hjindi pang long term ang marketing plan ng MLM they are doom to shut down in a short while. Gaya nga ng lagi kong sinasabi, to test the marketing plan of a MLM company... tanong mo lang "Kung sakaling di ako maka recruit or tumigil na ako sa pag recruit, kikita pa ba ako ng malaki?" doon malalaman kung ano ang plano ng MLM company sa yo.

Ngayon kung sa tingin mo gusto mo talaga sumali sa UNO pagkatapos ng lahat ng disadvantages na binigay ko e, nasa sayo na yan and i wish you good luck. Pero wag mo rin akong pipigilan na magsalita ng magsalita at mag bigay ng critics about UNO dahil yun ang nakikita ko e, in favor na rin sa ibang taong ngayon pa lang sasabak sa MLM.
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what he meant for checks yata ay chicks  :D


Uy... ispokening da english! hahahaha


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Uy... ispokening da english! hahahaha


mali ba? sorry ah di po ako marunong sa grammar... :hihi:

anyways sinong may copy nung guidelines nung sa DSA hindi ung sa DSAP ah, though kung pareho lang un... edi available na.
ayoko talaga ng unilevel lang, exciting pag binary...  :D

ako na nagsasabi... wag na kayo sumali sa UNO... itataya ko kuko ko... :hihi:


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mali ba? sorry ah di po ako marunong sa grammar... :hihi:

anyways sinong may copy nung guidelines nung sa DSA hindi ung sa DSAP ah, though kung pareho lang un... edi available na.
ayoko talaga ng unilevel lang, exciting pag binary...  :D

ako na nagsasabi... wag na kayo sumali sa UNO... itataya ko kuko ko... :hihi:


Hanapin ko sa files ko pagbalik ko sa office next week. tapusin ko lang project ko sa client ko. Pero ask mo rin yung iba baka meron na din sila.


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the way I see it if you're not into it for the long run, siguro nga kikita ka sa UNO, at the expense of others nga lang. I would be glad if I'm proven wrong.



I wouldn't want to be doing that to people. I'm afraid it may all come back to me.


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I wouldn't want to be doing that to people. I'm afraid it may all come back to me.


Yep, I agree. :)


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Guys, make sure accurate naman at hindi biased ang data na pinopost nyo.

Like this one na qinuote ni MAMANGMALDITO I asked my friend na taga UNO and I checked their brochures, here's what you will get
with your 7,300:

3,600 worth of products
2,500 GC - to buy another set of products
120,000 -  Family Accident Insurance
Personal Webpage
Trainings
Business Kit
Up to 50% discount in all UNO products
Business Opportunity

I think sa products palang 6100K na bumalik sayo. San kinuha ng qinuote mo yung 4K na products?
Again, make sure naman tama yung pinopost nyo dito, hindi porket nakakita ka ng negative, quote ka na kagad.

Now, bout the marketing plan, here's what I know:

Binary companies have safety nets right? Yung mga nagsara - Legacy, First Quadrant, etc. Do you know ano
safety net nila? 16 pairings. Sa UNO 10 lang. Don't get me wrong, hindi namemera ang company dyan, dito palang
you can see that they learned from the past and they're taking measures. Ang ibang binary companies ngayon
they're still using the 16 pairings safety net. So how can you say UNO is the worst?

What else? the progressive binary of UNO. Sa ibang binary companies diretso ka 1,500 first pairing palang. Sa
UNO, hindi, you'll start with

500   1-5 pairing
1000  6-10 pairing
1500  11- infinity

Bakit ginawa yan? this way yung mga so called "Investors" na kayang bumili ng sbrang daming heads
hindi makakapaglaro.

Not to mention yung Unilivel na mas pinasimple to add in the sustainability of the company.

These are just some of the measures that you should give UNO credits, so how can you say it's the worst
marketing plan or NETWORKING company? You know other binary companies that still use same old marketing plan
right?

If you can't see these as good points. Please enlighten me.  :cool2:


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Guys, make sure accurate naman at hindi biased ang data na pinopost nyo.

Like this one na qinuote ni MAMANGMALDITO I asked my friend na taga UNO and I checked their brochures, here's what you will get
with your 7,300:

3,600 worth of products
2,500 GC - to buy another set of products
120,000 -  Family Accident Insurance
Personal Webpage
Trainings
Business Kit
Up to 50% discount in all UNO products
Business Opportunity

I think sa products palang 6100K na bumalik sayo. San kinuha ng qinuote mo yung 4K na products?
Again, make sure naman tama yung pinopost nyo dito, hindi porket nakakita ka ng negative, quote ka na kagad.

Now, bout the marketing plan, here's what I know:

Binary companies have safety nets right? Yung mga nagsara - Legacy, First Quadrant, etc. Do you know ano
safety net nila? 16 pairings. Sa UNO 10 lang. Don't get me wrong, hindi namemera ang company dyan, dito palang
you can see that they learned from the past and they're taking measures. Ang ibang binary companies ngayon
they're still using the 16 pairings safety net. So how can you say UNO is the worst?

What else? the progressive binary of UNO. Sa ibang binary companies diretso ka 1,500 first pairing palang. Sa
UNO, hindi, you'll start with

500   1-5 pairing
1000  6-10 pairing
1500  11- infinity

Bakit ginawa yan? this way yung mga so called "Investors" na kayang bumili ng sbrang daming heads
hindi makakapaglaro.

Not to mention yung Unilivel na mas pinasimple to add in the sustainability of the company.

These are just some of the measures that you should give UNO credits, so how can you say it's the worst
marketing plan or NETWORKING company? You know other binary companies that still use same old marketing plan
right?

If you can't see these as good points. Please enlighten me.  :cool2:


Simple. Why do you think the DSA, MLMIA, US MLM Federal Laws, WDSA, DSAP, etc all requires binary MLMs to be a volume based matching bonus and not a 1:1 co-relation? No matter how much you turn everthing around, or even how conservative the safety net would be, a 1:1 co-relation system of pairing will not last long. It has got nothing to do with the safety net. The way a binary should work is your left team and right team are paired depending on the sales volume points produced, not the number of new associates you recruit. In a 1:1 co-relation, the pairing amount is fixed, the more you recruit, the more you earn. In a volume based paring system, the more products you purchase or you have your new associate purchase and so as his other downlines, the higher you earn!

The world's biggest long lasting companies like Usana, Nuskin, DXN, Amway, Merry Lynch, etc are all volume based. Usana is considered as the world's  #1 MLM operating in 14 countries worldwide with a single binary system and their system is volume based which os at the same time multi-awarded.

If these people in UNO and AIM Global think that their system is far better than the Usana binary system, then why can't they expand to North America and set-up hubs there? USA is the biggest MLM market!

Amega Global had to change its whole system into a volume based binary system in order to adapt to the USA Laws which is to be the most stringent worldwide. So kung baga, if you are able to open hubs and base offices in the USA, then your company's plan must be very safe for the consumers.

Now many are still saying the UNO or AIM Global is far from First Quadrant, iGen, Legacy etc. Well they are different but there are more similarities than differences! First of all check the system. You get paid  when you sponsor a new recruit, and then if it pairs to the other side, you get a corresponding fixed amount. Wasn't that the system FQ and those that closed down using too? Even if the safety net is different, at the end of the day, they are still using the same 1:1 co-relation binary system.

That is why I personally, and sorry to be straight forward, do not endorse companies like AIM Global or UNO or even Front Row. Wanna buy Alive products at a very cheap price? Go to Amazon or even Ebay!

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw_0_14?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=alive+natures+way&x=0&y=0&sprefix=alive+natures+

How about UNO products? They sell gluta, bracelets, etc etc but they do not have a flagship product. The name itself Unlimited Network of Opportunities gives me the chills. The name itself shows that their main purpose of being in business is to sell the business, and the products are just secondary.

If you want easy and fast money, then I would highly recommend the two above.

But if you want long term passive income, relying on those two above is just like driving home from Quezon City to Cavite right after finishing 10 bottles of Red Horse in one night.

You may think now, "hey, you are saying that because you want to invite others to your company". Totally wrong, in fact, if not my company, I would endorse the following:

1. Usana
2. Nuskin (just don't imitate their kidnapping style of inviting)
3. DXN
4. Fern-C
5. Amway (the pioneer)
6. Ever Bilena (I think they are MLM already)
7. Nikken (even if they are our competitor)
8. Quantum (also a competitor but definitely stable also)

As you see, I even endorse our competitors as a sign that I support the industry, but I do not support those companies I know na mapapahamak ka lang.

Then again, it is your choice. If you still believe UNO will last for another 10 years, then by all means go for UNO.




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If it didn't work out for you don't blame the networking business or your upline for your failure. There must be something wrong with you and you have to ask yourself if you do the networking or you did the "not working" attitude..  



I think one of those things also that attributes to people failing in this business are false expectations. Well not considering the walk-ins, many people joins MLMs due to the convincing power of their sponsors, and most of the time, these sponsors usually says "tutulungan kita dito, walang iwanan, yayaman ka." But once the person joins the company, bigla mawawala ang sponsor. Though of course, this new recruit still has that certain ability to make things work out, but one big factor in the start would really be the upline mentoring and group support.

That is why to those also who are bound to join MLMs, my piece of advice is to learn how to commit and really do it. If you commit to your newly recruit that you will always spend time with him, make sure you do. In my team, I only targeted 4 direct sponsors so each day, I spend it with one team leader and the last day, we all bond together.


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Thanks to kapit_sa_patalim  :thankyou: at meron ding sumagot  na pro UNO na may sense... O di ba mas maganda ang usapan, like i said... if you think na meron advantages ang UNO then bring it on.

Gusto ko rin sanang sagutin si brod Kapit, meron din akong gustong sabihin about dito pero mamaya na lang, kailangan ko munang unahin ang trabaho e. Good job Sir mondortiz and pards66010  :cool2:

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Want to be A Network Builder?

1. Stability (We are 10 years and more)
2. Product (Best ever and more potent than others)
3. Mrktg Plan (Biggest Income in Industry)

These are bunch of information equivalent to NETWORKING (most of the people dont wanna hear). For them are all SCAM but for us networkers; NETWORKING = DREAM.

The key is what and how to communicate.
The key is YOU.

Our business is working against us
thats why we find it exciting, challenging and fun.

Want to know more... Dial 8-MCDO  :hihi:


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Yeah you are right sir Mondortiz.. Thanks for enlightening some of the readers here and giving time to answer my question.. That's also the reason why these traditional networkers won't get their financial and time freedom.. Maybe its about time for people who wants to join in a networking company to scrutinize the company and the people running it first, then the products before joining..

So. we are on the track sir mondortiz, because our company is being managed by reputable Doctors and business minded persons.. we also produce our own products and lot more to come.. I really want people realize that in the networking industry they can achieve their dreams in life but they really have to work hard for it..

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Aim Global ba yan?


Hehehe.. Of course not.. Sabi nga ni sir mndortiz.. the company you mentioned will collapse..


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Heres another thing to think about. Why does these MLMs offering a 1:1 co-relation binary system offer such crap like insurance and scholarships in their packages instead of having a minimum volume of products purchased? Like in the case of AIM Global, why not just have "buy at least Php7,800 worth of Products and you get a business center". Why does it have to be a fixed package like "For Php7,800, you get 1 box of Alive, scholarship, insurance, etc etc".

Go figure

The way of entry for those long lasting MLM companies are to purchase a minimum volume amount of their products, regardless of which. It is 100% product purchase, and not a small amount of products then they cap it off with insurance or scholarships. Same as UNO.



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The bottom line here is pano o gaano kalaki ang kikitahin mo if you join "uno".. Yun nga ang hirap sa iba nating kababayan they don't care kung yung produkto nila is effective o hindi.. ang importante sa kanila kumita.. I computed your joining package and I found out its not value for money.. it means I have to invite people muna para mabawi ko yng total investment ko.. at tsaka bakit may gift certificate pa? hindi na lang ibigay yng produkto agad? mas maganda siguro kahit hindi ako mag invite bawi ko na yng pera kong nilabas.. Tanong ko lang how effective ba yung mga products ng uno? meron ba kayong mga testimonials about your products?


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eto po sagot sa tanong ni sir pards66010, eto po ung ginawang avp video ng uno para sa testimonials ng producto nila. reference lang po to di ko po sinasabing effective o hindi ung producto nila.

http://www.uno-corp.com/lounge-04-03.html

 :rakenrol: PMT!


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The bottom line here is pano o gaano kalaki ang kikitahin mo if you join "uno".. Yun nga ang hirap sa iba nating kababayan they don't care kung yung produkto nila is effective o hindi.. ang importante sa kanila kumita.. I computed your joining package and I found out its not value for money.. it means I have to invite people muna para mabawi ko yng total investment ko.. at tsaka bakit may gift certificate pa? hindi na lang ibigay yng produkto agad? mas maganda siguro kahit hindi ako mag invite bawi ko na yng pera kong nilabas.. Tanong ko lang how effective ba yung mga products ng uno? meron ba kayong mga testimonials about your products?


I have a video of our authentic Amega  bracelets products being tested against the UNO bracelet. I'll post it here as soon as I upload it in youtube.

This is proof that Amega is NOT getting its supplies from UNO as what some of its members are claiming. AMEGA manufactures its own AFT and Bio-Energy Bracelets.



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eh hindi naman tayo nasa US. hehehe..

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We are talking here how good is the product?? Yeah you're right sa US they can't do that but the problem is how can we encourage people to buy the product if we don't even know the effect that we can get from it..  sino ang magsasabi na magaling yung produkto kung hindi natin papayagan magsalita ang tao na nag benefit dun sa produkto? Even Doctors or scientist can't argue with results... may resulta eh pwede ba sila kumontra??? Yung aspartame na nakalagay sa isang leading softdrink nakapasa sa congress ng US eh... try to search it kung ano pwedeng gawin ng aspartame na yan sa katawan mo then tell me if iinom ka pa ng softdrink na yan..


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Eto lang ang take ko dyan.

If the MLM company has more profits on the recruitment side rather than on the sales of its products, then it is doomed not to last long. It would eventually be a ponzi scheme in which money of new investors would be used to fund the returns of old investors. The result? a pyramid that would eventually collapse and rich persons who are on top.

I myself was a current member of a networking company. But deep inside myself, somehow, I can't still accept the fact of unfairness in the MLM model of business.

Coz even though the downline works really hard to earn more income, the upline would profit more from their hard work.


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I myself was a current member of a networking company. But deep inside myself, somehow, I can't still accept the fact of unfairness in the MLM model of business.
Coz even though the downline works really hard to earn more income, the upline would profit more from their hard work.


then i suggest start accepting the fact the uplines earn more than you.
Like in corporate world, fresh grad earns less than the senior one.  :D


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Eto lang ang take ko dyan.

If the MLM company has more profits on the recruitment side rather than on the sales of its products, then it is doomed not to last long. It would eventually be a ponzi scheme in which money of new investors would be used to fund the returns of old investors. The result? a pyramid that would eventually collapse and rich persons who are on top.

I myself was a current member of a networking company. But deep inside myself, somehow, I can't still accept the fact of unfairness in the MLM model of business.

Coz even though the downline works really hard to earn more income, the upline would profit more from their hard work.


I totally agree with this. That is why in the longest lasting MLMs, commissions and incentives are measured through volume sales. When you invite a new distributor, you earn higher if he purchases a higher volume. IF he sells also, his volume of products sold are credited to you too. Even the longest lasting binary systems uses volume sales, be it if you sold a product to just a consumer, or you were able to invite a new associate.


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Yung 500mg capsule na Vitamin C ng UNO halos walang laman sa loob.

Try nyo po pisilin yung Ponstan 500 capsule at Ultima C capsule ng UNO at makikita nyo po na malayo ang pagkakaiba.

Ang laman na vitamin C sa capsule ay kasya at maluwang pa sa loob ng Imodium capsule.

 :help:


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Yung 500mg capsule na Vitamin C ng UNO halos walang laman sa loob.

Try nyo po pisilin yung Ponstan 500 capsule at Ultima C capsule ng UNO at makikita nyo po na malayo ang pagkakaiba.

Ang laman na vitamin C sa capsule ay kasya at maluwang pa sa loob ng Imodium capsule.

 :help:


Do you have a sample of this? Or maybe you can make a video or take pics and post it here for everyone's awareness?


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I am back! Natapos na rin ako sa wakas dun sa assignment ng client ko. Makikisawsaw na lang po ulit...

Tungkol dun sa naiwan kung discussion dito bago ako nawala, like i said thanks to kapit for posting sensible insights in fairness to UNO... but i want to have this turn to show to you some reasons why you should not join UNO because of these flaws ng Marketing plan nila:

P 7,300.00 is an off-shot registration package of UNO. Off course there is products coz if not, why the hell you would pay that amount. It's a one time offer you can refuse and think for a month before enduring the business. Ano ano ba yung composition ng product na ito? Kaya ba nyang i sustain yung business mo kung sakaling di ka maka recruit? Naayon ba sa fair market value yung product na binibigay sayo?


Syempre sasabihin ng taga UNO, oo naayon... well sinong niloloko nila? Isipin mo sa package na ito, magkano ang mapupunta sa nag recruit sayo at magkano ang sa kumpanya? Palagay nating kumita sila ng tig P 1,500.00 sila... sa 7,300.00 na ito lalabas na P 4,300.00 lang ang halaga ng product na binibili mo. Pero syempre sa P 4,300.00 product, certain percentage nun mark up nila para sa kita nila sa product... so mag kano na lang?

Negosyo ito... Siguro naman hindi mag ne-negosyo ang mga may ari ng UNO na malulugi sila sa mga product, right? Ang nakikita kung pang tapal nila sa product eh yung insurance and just to give you ideas heto ang product list nila for this package http://www.uno-corp.com/products-04.html Kayo na mag examine kung sustainable nga ang mga ito para kumita ka kahit walang recruit...

Tapos papalabasin nila na mataas pa ang value ng product... sa tingin nyo ba competitive pa rin ang price nun? Not to mention na kakailanganin mo pa ring mag mark up para kumita ka pa rin kahit papaano. E kung ako ang aalukin ng distributor ng UNO, bat pa ako bibili sayo kung pwede ko namang makuha sa traditional market yung ganyang product sa di hamak na mas mababang halaga?!?  :watchuthink:

So ano na ngayon ang mangyayari sayo... kailangan mo ngayon mag recruit ng mag recruit para kumita at makabawi naman sa nawala sayo. Pero yung upline mo at yung company bawing bawi na agad sayo.  Dito na ka-classify ang UNO sa Pyramiding system. Ang income ng UNO member ay nakabase sa recruitment at hindi sa network nila. Oo, kung makaka pang uto ka ng bibili ng product mo may kita ka pa rin kahit papaano pero katiting lang ang parte nun sa sistema ng UNO at HINDI ito kayang i-sustain ng isang tao sa loob ng ilang buwan unless mag recruit talaga sya. Hindi araw araw may bibili sayo ng bracelet o kung ano ano pang mamahaling product na pwede mo naman makuha sa mas mababang halaga.

Ang systema ng UNO ay pairing... kailangang kumita ng left and right leg mo para may kita ka rin. Kung halimbawa kumita ang left leg mo ng P 500.00 at yung right namang e P 1,500.00, sa P 500.00 ibabase yung kikitain mo... so talagang sa recruitment lang nabubuhay ang UNO.

Paano na-pre-predict yung life span ng UNO? Simple lang din po... using some statistical computation, palagay na nating araw araw e may nakukuha kang left and right leg at ganun din ang mga na recruit mo... in a matter of one to two months kaya nyong i-recruit yung lahat ng tao sa buong Pilipinas... so what will happend now sa mga Downlines na huling na recruit which ang pinaka malaking parte na bumubuo sa Pryramid ng UNO system? ...alam ko "Wala" ang isasagot nyo.... tsk! ganito sinisira ng UNO ang pangalan ng MLM sa PIlipinas. Kung may pagpapahalaga kayo sa kapwa nyo, pagisipan nyo ito bago kayo pasok ng pasok sa ganitong klaseng company.

LABAG ito sa ethics ng isang MLM company, kaya nga ako naaasar pag pilit nilang ginagamit ang term na MLM sa company nila. I hope nakukuha nyo ang point ko.

You may have to say that UNO is Legal because of its SEC registration. But try to examine the certificate  that they posted. Lakas nilang ipagyabang iyon e balewa naman yun... It's called Articles of Incorporation in which has an stipulation in the middle part that says "not authorized to engaged in any kind of business after sa phrase na "not limited to" kasi kelangan pa sila kumuha ng additional License (a secondary license)" (see this link: http://www.uno-corp.com/about-05-sec.html) Hindi ba dapat License to Operate yung naka post at hindi yung COI which can be acquired when you applied for a company name? Now give a damn good reason for that  :bahalaka:

Yung iba hindi mababasa yung nakasulat sa Certificate na ito kasi sobrang liit ng picture ng certificate nila. Sinubukan ko ring i-zoom pero mukhang sinadya yatang hanggang ganun lang talaga. Senya na, siguro naman naiintindihan nyo na ako kung bakit wala talaga akong katiwa tiwala sa mga taong ito... puro yabang pero mga mapanglinlang  :boxing:


Edited: I just need to rephrase a line para mas klaro, Thanks to BAKI for this.
   
   

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Eto lang ang take ko dyan.

If the MLM company has more profits on the recruitment side rather than on the sales of its products, then it is doomed not to last long. It would eventually be a ponzi scheme in which money of new investors would be used to fund the returns of old investors. The result? a pyramid that would eventually collapse and rich persons who are on top.

I myself was a current member of a networking company. But deep inside myself, somehow, I can't still accept the fact of unfairness in the MLM model of business.

Coz even though the downline works really hard to earn more income, the upline would profit more from their hard work.


Sa Totoong MLM kahit na Downline ka lang, pwde mong lagpasan ang kita ng upline mo... Nag promise ako na hindi ako magbabangit ng MLM company dito kaya in general na lang...

Yung isang kilala kong networker sa isang malakas na MLM dito sa pinas, kumikita sya ng almost P 20,000.00++ per month... di na masama di ba para sa isang recruit... :) while yung downline naman nya eh kumikita ng P 300,000.00 per month. Ganyan ang kalakaran sa tunay na MLM  :cool2:


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mmh.. nabasa ko po ang certificate eto po nakalagay:

"This Certificate grants juridical personality to the Corporation but does not authorized it to undertake business activities requiring a Secondary License from this Commission such as, but not limited to broker or dealer in Securities...xxx"

ang ibig po nito sabihin ay hindi pwede mag-engage ang UNO sa mga business activities na binabanggit after sa phrase na "not limited to" kasi kelangan pa sila kumuha ng additional License (a secondary license) para sa mga business activities na to as restrictions sa isang certificate. In short po ang UNO ay pwede mag-engage ng certain businesses... kadalasan po talaga nakakalito ang mga legal wordings.

naiinis po talaga ako sa Vitamin C nila na kapag pinisil ang capsule halos walang laman...


 :help:


Can you help us out here... pwede po bang ma-i-post yung buong laman ng Certificate nila? Sobra kasing liit eh, meron lang akong gustong makita. Kasi kamo meron certain business na allowed silang gawin pero mas gusto kong makita yung mga business na HINDI nila pwedeng gawin hanggat wala silang secondary licenses for these activities.  :thankyou:


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I am back! Natapos na rin ako sa wakas dun sa assignment ng client ko. Makikisawsaw na lang po ulit...

Tungkol dun sa naiwan kung discussion dito bago ako nawala, like i said thanks to kapit for posting sensible insights in fairness to UNO... but i want to have this turn to show to you some reasons why you should not join UNO because of these flaws ng Marketing plan nila:

P 7,300.00 is an off-shot registration package of UNO. Off course there is products coz if not, why the hell you would pay that amount. It's a one time offer you can refuse and think for a month before enduring the business. Ano ano ba yung composition ng product na ito? Kaya ba nyang i sustain yung business mo kung sakaling di ka maka recruit? Naayon ba sa fair market value yung product na binibigay sayo?


Syempre sasabihin ng taga UNO, oo naayon... well sinong niloloko nila? Isipin mo sa package na ito, magkano ang mapupunta sa nag recruit sayo at magkano ang sa kumpanya? Palagay nating kumita sila ng tig P 1,500.00 sila... sa 7,300.00 na ito lalabas na P 4,300.00 lang ang halaga ng product na binibili mo. Pero syempre sa P 4,300.00 product, certain percentage nun mark up nila para sa kita nila sa product... so mag kano na lang?

Negosyo ito... Siguro naman hindi mag ne-negosyo ang mga may ari ng UNO na malulugi sila sa mga product, right? Ang nakikita kung pang tapal nila sa product eh yung insurance and just to give you ideas heto ang product list nila for this package http://www.uno-corp.com/products-04.html Kayo na mag examine kung sustainable nga ang mga ito para kumita ka kahit walang recruit...

Tapos papalabasin nila na mataas pa ang value ng product... sa tingin nyo ba competitive pa rin ang price nun? Not to mention na kakailanganin mo pa ring mag mark up para kumita ka pa rin kahit papaano. E kung ako ang aalukin ng distributor ng UNO, bat pa ako bibili sayo kung pwede ko namang makuha sa traditional market yung ganyang product sa di hamak na mas mababang halaga?!?  :watchuthink:

So ano na ngayon ang mangyayari sayo... kailangan mo ngayon mag recruit ng mag recruit para kumita at makabawi naman sa nawala sayo. Pero yung upline mo at yung company bawing bawi na agad sayo.  Dito na ka-classify ang UNO sa Pyramiding system. Ang income ng UNO member ay nakabase sa recruitment at hindi sa network nila. Oo, kung makaka pang uto ka ng bibili ng product mo may kita ka pa rin kahit papaano pero katiting lang ang parte nun sa sistema ng UNO at HINDI ito kayang i-sustain ng isang tao sa loob ng ilang buwan unless mag recruit talaga sya. Hindi araw araw may bibili sayo ng bracelet o kung ano ano pang mamahaling product na pwede mo naman makuha sa mas mababang halaga.

Ang systema ng UNO ay pairing... kailangang kumita ng left and right leg mo para may kita ka rin. Kung halimbawa kumita ang left leg mo ng P 500.00 at yung right namang e P 1,500.00, sa P 500.00 ibabase yung kikitain mo... so talagang sa recruitment lang nabubuhay ang UNO.

Paano na-pre-predict yung life span ng UNO? Simple lang din po... using some statistical computation, palagay na nating araw araw e may nakukuha kang left and right leg at ganun din ang mga na recruit mo... in a matter of one to two months kaya nyong i-recruit yung lahat ng tao sa buong Pilipinas... so what will happend now sa mga Downlines na huling na recruit which ang pinaka malaking parte na bumubuo sa Pryramid ng UNO system? ...alam ko "Wala" ang isasagot nyo.... tsk! ganito sinisira ng UNO ang pangalan ng MLM sa PIlipinas. Kung may pagpapahalaga kayo sa kapwa nyo, pagisipan nyo ito bago kayo pasok ng pasok sa ganitong klaseng company.

LABAG ito sa ethics ng isang MLM company, kaya nga ako naaasar pag pilit nilang ginagamit ang term na MLM sa company nila. I hope nakukuha nyo ang point ko.

You may have to say that UNO is Legal because of its SEC registration. But try to examine the certificate  that they posted. Lakas nilang ipagyabang iyon e balewa naman yun... It's called Articles of Incorporation in which has an stipulation in the middle part that says "not authorized to engaged in any kind of business" (see this link: http://www.uno-corp.com/about-05-sec.html) Hindi ba dapat License to Operate yung naka post at hindi yung COI which can be acquired when you applied for a company name? Now give a damn good reason for that  :bahalaka:

Yung iba hindi mababasa yung nakasulat sa Certificate na ito kasi sobrang liit ng picture ng certificate nila. Sinubukan ko ring i-zoom pero mukhang sinadya yatang hanggang ganun lang talaga. Senya na, siguro naman naiintindihan nyo na ako kung bakit wala talaga akong katiwa tiwala sa mga taong ito... puro yabang pero mga mapanglinlang  :boxing:

   
   




Nice! I agree with you on this. That is one reason why I do not endorse companies like UNO, AIM Global or Front Row. Honestly, their business is to sell the company and not to sell a product. Their primary mission and purpose is to have people sell the business. They do not care about product sales as much as selling the business.

As I had kept saying, the purpose of this business is to sell the business, and they use the product as a springboard. Unlike long-term huge MLMs, they sell the product and they use the MLM business model to sell.


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naiinis po talaga ako sa Vitamin C nila na kapag pinisil ang capsule halos walang laman...

 :help:


Eh pano, the product they have is secondary. Their primary product is their own business. Ever wonder why their name is "Unlimited Network of Opportunities"?


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@mamangmaldito
 http://www.uno-corp.com/about-05-sec.html   copy paste mo sa pc mo then zoom mo.. para mabasa mo ng maayos  :harhar:  :watchuthink:
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mamangmaldito.  :harhar:  ikaw din buhay kaprin pla..? wlang kupas sa pag tira sa UNO.. :applause:


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mamangmaldito.  :harhar:  ikaw din buhay kaprin pla..? wlang kupas sa pag tira sa UNO.. :applause:


Nagsasabi lang ako ng totoo... o baka may gusto ka ring ibanat. Naka pag research ka na ba? Post mo naman para makabawi at isipin ko na nag iisip ka rin...  :harhar:



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sa pagkakaintindi ko lang po ha, di po ba ang sinasabi dito kung ang negosyo mo ay kung tungkol o may kinalaman sa:
- Broker or dealer in securities
- government securities eligible dealer (GSED)
- Investment adviser on an investment company
- closed-end or open-end investment company
- Investment house
- transfer agent
- commodity/financial futures exchange/broker/merchant
- financing company
- pre-need plan issuer
- general agent in pre-need plans
- time shares/club shares/membership certificates issuer
- selling agents

ay kailangan mong kumuha pa ng secondary license sa SEC.

Tama po ba ako? Pakilinaw naman po.

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Ganun na nga po...


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saan po ba na-clasify ang UNO diba sa distribution?

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Sir mamangmaldito pwede ko po bang malaman yung nakasaad sa SEC registration ng networking company niyo para malaman ko yung difference from other networking companies? Im really curious about it because, I also read our registration and the context is also the same with UNO..

I can't see any irregularities with the registration of UNO so far but the only problem that I can see right now is there joining package which is not value for money.. I heard that a gov't agency will do a mopping operation in all networking companies.. I'm so sorry I can't divulge the details of their operation here... I hope that this project of the gov't will push thru the soonest possible time para naman mawala na yung mga comapnies na nakakasira sa MLM business here in our country ..



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Sir mamangmaldito pwede ko po bang malaman yung nakasaad sa SEC registration ng networking company niyo para malaman ko yung difference from other networking companies? Im really curious about it because, I also read our registration and the context is also the same with UNO..

I can't see any irregularities with the registration of UNO so far but the only problem that I can see right now is there joining package which is not value for money.. I heard that a gov't agency will do a mopping operation in all networking companies.. I'm so sorry I can't divulge the details of their operation here... I hope that this project of the gov't will push thru the soonest possible time para naman mawala na yung mga comapnies na nakakasira sa MLM business here in our country ..


He he he, i don't have any networking company :) Pero alam ko meron akong files dito about SEC registration ng isang top MLM company, hanapin ko lang... surely you can't find any irregularities dyan sa binabandera nilang SEC registration...

The point is, wala itong bisa without the secondary license na hinihingi nila FROM THEIR COMMISSION. So asan yung secondary license nila, bakit hindi yun ang ipakita nila?

Yung top MLM company na nakita, i am very sure na may license kaso di ko matandaan exactly kung ano yung content ng registration nila, hanapin ko muna copy... aside from that meron pa yung supporting docs na Certificate of Substituion of Securities on Deposit stating that:

KNOW ALL PERSONS BY THESE:

This is to Certify that XXXXXXXXXXXXX, licensed on September XX, XXXX as a branch office of a corporation organized....

I agree with you, dapat talaga mag karoon na ng matibay na MLM law dito sa Pilipinas. Hindi ko nga alam kung bakit sa dami dami ng Netwrokers dito sa Pilipinas e walang nag i-initiate na mag tayo ng Party List para nman may boses sila sa congress at maisabatas na ang mga dapat isabatas.

Sa recruitment at product dapat kumita ang networker hindi sa pang re-recruit lang.  :boxing:


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He he he, i don't have any networking company


ni minsan po sir di kayo nakasali ng mlm?   :ows:


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Nakita ko na yung SEC registration na hinahanap ko... heto sabi:


SEC LICENSE NO: axxxxxxxxx


LICENSE TO TRANSACT BUSINESS
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know all men by these presents:

This is to certify that XXXXXXXXXXXX a foreign organized and existing under laws of XXXXXXXXXXXX was duly LICENSED by this commission on this dated in accordance with the Corporation Code of the Philippines (Batas Pambansa Blg. 68) approved o May 1,1980 and Foreign Investment Act of 1991 to establish its branch office in the Philippines to carry on the business of import, export, purchse, acqusition, sale at wholesale, insofar as may permitted by law, of all kinds of health food, traditional medicine, all kinds of confectioneries, food products and groceries on a multi-level marketing basis  

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of this Commission to be affixed at Mandaluyong City, Metro Manila, Philippines this XXX day of XXXXX, XXXXXXXX.


Director  

Yan ang dapat pinapakita at pinag yayabang...

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This is to certify that XXXXXXXXXXXX a foreign organized and existing under laws of XXXXXXXXXXXX was duly LICENSED by this commission on this dated in accordance with the Corporation Code of the Philippines (Batas Pambansa Blg. 68) approved o May 1,1980 and Foreign Investment Act of 1991 to establish its branch office in the Philippines to carry on the business of import, export, purchse, acqusition, sale at wholesale, insofar as may permitted by law, of all kinds of health food, traditional medicine, all kinds of confectioneries, food products and groceries on a multi-level marketing basis  


di ba po ang sinasabi dito is for foreign mlm na gustong mag-establish dito sa bansa natin kaya kailangan nitong lisensyang ito. eh hindi naman foreign company ang UNO same with sa mlm ni sir pards.

eh mas maganda pa nga ang mlm ni sir pards kaysa sa UNO bat ganun pareho sila ng lisensya. Pakilinaw din po ulit.

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  • Doni_megaworld: kumusta? sino mga online?
    Yesterday at 03:24 PM
  • lyndrey: Do not buy PPE online. Either expensive overpriced or totally damaged or cannot be used
    Yesterday at 01:37 PM
  • lyndrey: Online Scammers/online shopping cheats are active with stay at home regimen.
    Yesterday at 01:34 PM
  • Niel Jhacoubs: @razee22 Parang di na po nacoconvert into money ang load po.
    May 12, 2020, 04:07 PM
  • razee22: any advised or recommendation?
    May 12, 2020, 11:16 AM
  • razee22: Paano po ba iconvert ang load into money like Paypal, Paymaya or Gcash?
    May 12, 2020, 11:15 AM
  • razee22: paano po ba iconvert ang load into money? Paypal or Gcash
    May 12, 2020, 11:14 AM
  • Niel Jhacoubs: Hellooooo, okay lang ba kayo dyannnn?
    May 11, 2020, 11:40 AM
  • theimprobableone: hi
    May 05, 2020, 11:37 AM
  • freelance_treasure_hunter: hello all...
    Apr 28, 2020, 04:26 PM
  • Niel Jhacoubs: Can someone save me?
    Mar 24, 2020, 01:39 PM
  • Niel Jhacoubs: I'm tired.
    Mar 24, 2020, 01:39 PM
  • Victorvargas: Hello sa lahat po new lang po dito. Hope na marami matutunan ako about business.
    Mar 21, 2020, 09:43 PM
  • Niel Jhacoubs: Yoh, its been a while.
    Mar 17, 2020, 10:33 AM
  • demi07: Hello everyone! New in pinoymoneytalk :)
    Mar 14, 2020, 01:24 PM
  • theappswitch: Hi!
    Feb 25, 2020, 03:14 PM
  • mike2020: hi po sa inyo lahat
    Feb 23, 2020, 11:52 PM
  • Jayjayqwe: hi po
    Feb 19, 2020, 11:27 PM
  • tirs d pip: hello
    Feb 18, 2020, 02:32 PM
  • Ace1105: Hello sa lahat...  :hello:
    Feb 07, 2020, 09:46 AM
  • FREYAHYARA: Anyone knows where Ig shops like styledom.ph, thriftme, instashoppeavenu and the likes get their items for selling. Would like to venture in the same business but would like to know where and who the suppliers are
    Jan 28, 2020, 09:38 PM
  • Niel Jhacoubs: To bpc85 kung nakalagay ang inyong names sa beneficiary list ng iyong ama kay may makukuha po kayo.
    Nov 28, 2019, 02:18 PM
  • Niel Jhacoubs: Hellooooo, its been a while. :)
    Nov 28, 2019, 02:16 PM
  • miakashidou31: hi , meron po ba ditong nagta transfer sa paypal?
    Nov 05, 2019, 01:46 PM
  • whennedy: good noon po
    Oct 18, 2019, 12:04 PM
  • edzlpdac: goood day po sa lahat!
    Oct 12, 2019, 03:37 PM
  • bpc85: ask lng sana ako kung may makukuha ba kami ng Mama ko at ako or mga kapatid ko sa benepisyo ng aming Ama bilang membro ng AFPSLAI. thank you po.
    Sep 27, 2019, 12:52 PM
  • bpc85: Hi guys, im new here,.
    Sep 27, 2019, 12:52 PM
  • Anaperdi: Hi just want to know if meron dito who is into boundary hulog ng motorcycle? For mga riders ng courier. Pwede ba magpashare how it works? Naisip ko lang baka pwede ko ibusiness, meron na pala mga posts online pero di pa clear ang system sa akin. thank  you sa makakapansin
    Sep 21, 2019, 11:32 AM
  • Anaperdi: Hi newbie here..
    Sep 21, 2019, 11:19 AM
  • jprios: May contact ba kayo kung sakali?
    Sep 18, 2019, 06:11 PM
  • jprios: Sino pwedeng mahiraman dito?
    Sep 18, 2019, 06:09 PM
  • kfg52: Present!
    Sep 15, 2019, 07:26 PM
  • juju31: san po ba may nag papahiram dito
    Sep 14, 2019, 07:18 PM
  • juju31: hello
    Sep 14, 2019, 07:18 PM
  • FutureGizmo: Thanks julz! Medyo ganun nga trabaho namin ngayon, to monitor spam posts kasi ang daming spam bots. But thanks for reporting. Auto-ban agad ang spammers sa amin haha
    Sep 07, 2019, 12:17 PM
  • julz: @FutureGizmo si @nikkikv18 just posted more than 10 posts about porn sites. hay, spam.
    Sep 03, 2019, 01:05 PM
  • Cid_brent: sino po dyan pwede magbigay send ng paypal funds and I will pay you using gcash?
    Aug 25, 2019, 08:58 PM
  • Meghan91811: Sino po may alam about Rice Farming...
    Aug 25, 2019, 07:44 AM
  • roselove: hello po sa inyo... newbie here
    Aug 06, 2019, 03:31 PM
  • Niel Jhacoubs: Sino palaging active dito?
    Jul 30, 2019, 04:15 PM
  • dagocjasonrey: Anong update dito?
    Jul 22, 2019, 08:49 PM
  • mark_Lee: anong bago dito
    Jun 28, 2019, 01:03 AM
  • mark_Lee: balita
    Jun 28, 2019, 01:03 AM
  • Lovelyprincess72: hi everyone , I'm newbie here
    Jun 27, 2019, 02:36 PM
  • Niel Jhacoubs: Musta?
    Jun 26, 2019, 01:43 PM
  • Forexanalysis: Hello
    Jun 25, 2019, 06:33 PM
  • Niel Jhacoubs: Hello sa mga online jan! :)
    Jun 15, 2019, 02:58 PM
  • oragon: :applause:
    May 20, 2019, 03:53 PM