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We are talking here how good is the product?? Yeah you're right sa US they can't do that but the problem is how can we encourage people to buy the product if we don't even know the effect that we can get from it..  sino ang magsasabi na magaling yung produkto kung hindi natin papayagan magsalita ang tao na nag benefit dun sa produkto? Even Doctors or scientist can't argue with results... may resulta eh pwede ba sila kumontra??? Yung aspartame na nakalagay sa isang leading softdrink nakapasa sa congress ng US eh... try to search it kung ano pwedeng gawin ng aspartame na yan sa katawan mo then tell me if iinom ka pa ng softdrink na yan..


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Eto lang ang take ko dyan.

If the MLM company has more profits on the recruitment side rather than on the sales of its products, then it is doomed not to last long. It would eventually be a ponzi scheme in which money of new investors would be used to fund the returns of old investors. The result? a pyramid that would eventually collapse and rich persons who are on top.

I myself was a current member of a networking company. But deep inside myself, somehow, I can't still accept the fact of unfairness in the MLM model of business.

Coz even though the downline works really hard to earn more income, the upline would profit more from their hard work.


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I myself was a current member of a networking company. But deep inside myself, somehow, I can't still accept the fact of unfairness in the MLM model of business.
Coz even though the downline works really hard to earn more income, the upline would profit more from their hard work.


then i suggest start accepting the fact the uplines earn more than you.
Like in corporate world, fresh grad earns less than the senior one.  :D


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Eto lang ang take ko dyan.

If the MLM company has more profits on the recruitment side rather than on the sales of its products, then it is doomed not to last long. It would eventually be a ponzi scheme in which money of new investors would be used to fund the returns of old investors. The result? a pyramid that would eventually collapse and rich persons who are on top.

I myself was a current member of a networking company. But deep inside myself, somehow, I can't still accept the fact of unfairness in the MLM model of business.

Coz even though the downline works really hard to earn more income, the upline would profit more from their hard work.


I totally agree with this. That is why in the longest lasting MLMs, commissions and incentives are measured through volume sales. When you invite a new distributor, you earn higher if he purchases a higher volume. IF he sells also, his volume of products sold are credited to you too. Even the longest lasting binary systems uses volume sales, be it if you sold a product to just a consumer, or you were able to invite a new associate.


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Yung 500mg capsule na Vitamin C ng UNO halos walang laman sa loob.

Try nyo po pisilin yung Ponstan 500 capsule at Ultima C capsule ng UNO at makikita nyo po na malayo ang pagkakaiba.

Ang laman na vitamin C sa capsule ay kasya at maluwang pa sa loob ng Imodium capsule.

 :help:


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Yung 500mg capsule na Vitamin C ng UNO halos walang laman sa loob.

Try nyo po pisilin yung Ponstan 500 capsule at Ultima C capsule ng UNO at makikita nyo po na malayo ang pagkakaiba.

Ang laman na vitamin C sa capsule ay kasya at maluwang pa sa loob ng Imodium capsule.

 :help:


Do you have a sample of this? Or maybe you can make a video or take pics and post it here for everyone's awareness?


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I am back! Natapos na rin ako sa wakas dun sa assignment ng client ko. Makikisawsaw na lang po ulit...

Tungkol dun sa naiwan kung discussion dito bago ako nawala, like i said thanks to kapit for posting sensible insights in fairness to UNO... but i want to have this turn to show to you some reasons why you should not join UNO because of these flaws ng Marketing plan nila:

P 7,300.00 is an off-shot registration package of UNO. Off course there is products coz if not, why the hell you would pay that amount. It's a one time offer you can refuse and think for a month before enduring the business. Ano ano ba yung composition ng product na ito? Kaya ba nyang i sustain yung business mo kung sakaling di ka maka recruit? Naayon ba sa fair market value yung product na binibigay sayo?


Syempre sasabihin ng taga UNO, oo naayon... well sinong niloloko nila? Isipin mo sa package na ito, magkano ang mapupunta sa nag recruit sayo at magkano ang sa kumpanya? Palagay nating kumita sila ng tig P 1,500.00 sila... sa 7,300.00 na ito lalabas na P 4,300.00 lang ang halaga ng product na binibili mo. Pero syempre sa P 4,300.00 product, certain percentage nun mark up nila para sa kita nila sa product... so mag kano na lang?

Negosyo ito... Siguro naman hindi mag ne-negosyo ang mga may ari ng UNO na malulugi sila sa mga product, right? Ang nakikita kung pang tapal nila sa product eh yung insurance and just to give you ideas heto ang product list nila for this package http://www.uno-corp.com/products-04.html Kayo na mag examine kung sustainable nga ang mga ito para kumita ka kahit walang recruit...

Tapos papalabasin nila na mataas pa ang value ng product... sa tingin nyo ba competitive pa rin ang price nun? Not to mention na kakailanganin mo pa ring mag mark up para kumita ka pa rin kahit papaano. E kung ako ang aalukin ng distributor ng UNO, bat pa ako bibili sayo kung pwede ko namang makuha sa traditional market yung ganyang product sa di hamak na mas mababang halaga?!?  :watchuthink:

So ano na ngayon ang mangyayari sayo... kailangan mo ngayon mag recruit ng mag recruit para kumita at makabawi naman sa nawala sayo. Pero yung upline mo at yung company bawing bawi na agad sayo.  Dito na ka-classify ang UNO sa Pyramiding system. Ang income ng UNO member ay nakabase sa recruitment at hindi sa network nila. Oo, kung makaka pang uto ka ng bibili ng product mo may kita ka pa rin kahit papaano pero katiting lang ang parte nun sa sistema ng UNO at HINDI ito kayang i-sustain ng isang tao sa loob ng ilang buwan unless mag recruit talaga sya. Hindi araw araw may bibili sayo ng bracelet o kung ano ano pang mamahaling product na pwede mo naman makuha sa mas mababang halaga.

Ang systema ng UNO ay pairing... kailangang kumita ng left and right leg mo para may kita ka rin. Kung halimbawa kumita ang left leg mo ng P 500.00 at yung right namang e P 1,500.00, sa P 500.00 ibabase yung kikitain mo... so talagang sa recruitment lang nabubuhay ang UNO.

Paano na-pre-predict yung life span ng UNO? Simple lang din po... using some statistical computation, palagay na nating araw araw e may nakukuha kang left and right leg at ganun din ang mga na recruit mo... in a matter of one to two months kaya nyong i-recruit yung lahat ng tao sa buong Pilipinas... so what will happend now sa mga Downlines na huling na recruit which ang pinaka malaking parte na bumubuo sa Pryramid ng UNO system? ...alam ko "Wala" ang isasagot nyo.... tsk! ganito sinisira ng UNO ang pangalan ng MLM sa PIlipinas. Kung may pagpapahalaga kayo sa kapwa nyo, pagisipan nyo ito bago kayo pasok ng pasok sa ganitong klaseng company.

LABAG ito sa ethics ng isang MLM company, kaya nga ako naaasar pag pilit nilang ginagamit ang term na MLM sa company nila. I hope nakukuha nyo ang point ko.

You may have to say that UNO is Legal because of its SEC registration. But try to examine the certificate  that they posted. Lakas nilang ipagyabang iyon e balewa naman yun... It's called Articles of Incorporation in which has an stipulation in the middle part that says "not authorized to engaged in any kind of business after sa phrase na "not limited to" kasi kelangan pa sila kumuha ng additional License (a secondary license)" (see this link: http://www.uno-corp.com/about-05-sec.html) Hindi ba dapat License to Operate yung naka post at hindi yung COI which can be acquired when you applied for a company name? Now give a damn good reason for that  :bahalaka:

Yung iba hindi mababasa yung nakasulat sa Certificate na ito kasi sobrang liit ng picture ng certificate nila. Sinubukan ko ring i-zoom pero mukhang sinadya yatang hanggang ganun lang talaga. Senya na, siguro naman naiintindihan nyo na ako kung bakit wala talaga akong katiwa tiwala sa mga taong ito... puro yabang pero mga mapanglinlang  :boxing:


Edited: I just need to rephrase a line para mas klaro, Thanks to BAKI for this.
   
   

« Last Edit: Jul 09, 2009, 09:07 AM by MAMANGMALDITO »


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Eto lang ang take ko dyan.

If the MLM company has more profits on the recruitment side rather than on the sales of its products, then it is doomed not to last long. It would eventually be a ponzi scheme in which money of new investors would be used to fund the returns of old investors. The result? a pyramid that would eventually collapse and rich persons who are on top.

I myself was a current member of a networking company. But deep inside myself, somehow, I can't still accept the fact of unfairness in the MLM model of business.

Coz even though the downline works really hard to earn more income, the upline would profit more from their hard work.


Sa Totoong MLM kahit na Downline ka lang, pwde mong lagpasan ang kita ng upline mo... Nag promise ako na hindi ako magbabangit ng MLM company dito kaya in general na lang...

Yung isang kilala kong networker sa isang malakas na MLM dito sa pinas, kumikita sya ng almost P 20,000.00++ per month... di na masama di ba para sa isang recruit... :) while yung downline naman nya eh kumikita ng P 300,000.00 per month. Ganyan ang kalakaran sa tunay na MLM  :cool2:


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« Last Edit: Jul 08, 2009, 10:21 PM by BAKI »


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mmh.. nabasa ko po ang certificate eto po nakalagay:

"This Certificate grants juridical personality to the Corporation but does not authorized it to undertake business activities requiring a Secondary License from this Commission such as, but not limited to broker or dealer in Securities...xxx"

ang ibig po nito sabihin ay hindi pwede mag-engage ang UNO sa mga business activities na binabanggit after sa phrase na "not limited to" kasi kelangan pa sila kumuha ng additional License (a secondary license) para sa mga business activities na to as restrictions sa isang certificate. In short po ang UNO ay pwede mag-engage ng certain businesses... kadalasan po talaga nakakalito ang mga legal wordings.

naiinis po talaga ako sa Vitamin C nila na kapag pinisil ang capsule halos walang laman...


 :help:


Can you help us out here... pwede po bang ma-i-post yung buong laman ng Certificate nila? Sobra kasing liit eh, meron lang akong gustong makita. Kasi kamo meron certain business na allowed silang gawin pero mas gusto kong makita yung mga business na HINDI nila pwedeng gawin hanggat wala silang secondary licenses for these activities.  :thankyou:


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I am back! Natapos na rin ako sa wakas dun sa assignment ng client ko. Makikisawsaw na lang po ulit...

Tungkol dun sa naiwan kung discussion dito bago ako nawala, like i said thanks to kapit for posting sensible insights in fairness to UNO... but i want to have this turn to show to you some reasons why you should not join UNO because of these flaws ng Marketing plan nila:

P 7,300.00 is an off-shot registration package of UNO. Off course there is products coz if not, why the hell you would pay that amount. It's a one time offer you can refuse and think for a month before enduring the business. Ano ano ba yung composition ng product na ito? Kaya ba nyang i sustain yung business mo kung sakaling di ka maka recruit? Naayon ba sa fair market value yung product na binibigay sayo?


Syempre sasabihin ng taga UNO, oo naayon... well sinong niloloko nila? Isipin mo sa package na ito, magkano ang mapupunta sa nag recruit sayo at magkano ang sa kumpanya? Palagay nating kumita sila ng tig P 1,500.00 sila... sa 7,300.00 na ito lalabas na P 4,300.00 lang ang halaga ng product na binibili mo. Pero syempre sa P 4,300.00 product, certain percentage nun mark up nila para sa kita nila sa product... so mag kano na lang?

Negosyo ito... Siguro naman hindi mag ne-negosyo ang mga may ari ng UNO na malulugi sila sa mga product, right? Ang nakikita kung pang tapal nila sa product eh yung insurance and just to give you ideas heto ang product list nila for this package http://www.uno-corp.com/products-04.html Kayo na mag examine kung sustainable nga ang mga ito para kumita ka kahit walang recruit...

Tapos papalabasin nila na mataas pa ang value ng product... sa tingin nyo ba competitive pa rin ang price nun? Not to mention na kakailanganin mo pa ring mag mark up para kumita ka pa rin kahit papaano. E kung ako ang aalukin ng distributor ng UNO, bat pa ako bibili sayo kung pwede ko namang makuha sa traditional market yung ganyang product sa di hamak na mas mababang halaga?!?  :watchuthink:

So ano na ngayon ang mangyayari sayo... kailangan mo ngayon mag recruit ng mag recruit para kumita at makabawi naman sa nawala sayo. Pero yung upline mo at yung company bawing bawi na agad sayo.  Dito na ka-classify ang UNO sa Pyramiding system. Ang income ng UNO member ay nakabase sa recruitment at hindi sa network nila. Oo, kung makaka pang uto ka ng bibili ng product mo may kita ka pa rin kahit papaano pero katiting lang ang parte nun sa sistema ng UNO at HINDI ito kayang i-sustain ng isang tao sa loob ng ilang buwan unless mag recruit talaga sya. Hindi araw araw may bibili sayo ng bracelet o kung ano ano pang mamahaling product na pwede mo naman makuha sa mas mababang halaga.

Ang systema ng UNO ay pairing... kailangang kumita ng left and right leg mo para may kita ka rin. Kung halimbawa kumita ang left leg mo ng P 500.00 at yung right namang e P 1,500.00, sa P 500.00 ibabase yung kikitain mo... so talagang sa recruitment lang nabubuhay ang UNO.

Paano na-pre-predict yung life span ng UNO? Simple lang din po... using some statistical computation, palagay na nating araw araw e may nakukuha kang left and right leg at ganun din ang mga na recruit mo... in a matter of one to two months kaya nyong i-recruit yung lahat ng tao sa buong Pilipinas... so what will happend now sa mga Downlines na huling na recruit which ang pinaka malaking parte na bumubuo sa Pryramid ng UNO system? ...alam ko "Wala" ang isasagot nyo.... tsk! ganito sinisira ng UNO ang pangalan ng MLM sa PIlipinas. Kung may pagpapahalaga kayo sa kapwa nyo, pagisipan nyo ito bago kayo pasok ng pasok sa ganitong klaseng company.

LABAG ito sa ethics ng isang MLM company, kaya nga ako naaasar pag pilit nilang ginagamit ang term na MLM sa company nila. I hope nakukuha nyo ang point ko.

You may have to say that UNO is Legal because of its SEC registration. But try to examine the certificate  that they posted. Lakas nilang ipagyabang iyon e balewa naman yun... It's called Articles of Incorporation in which has an stipulation in the middle part that says "not authorized to engaged in any kind of business" (see this link: http://www.uno-corp.com/about-05-sec.html) Hindi ba dapat License to Operate yung naka post at hindi yung COI which can be acquired when you applied for a company name? Now give a damn good reason for that  :bahalaka:

Yung iba hindi mababasa yung nakasulat sa Certificate na ito kasi sobrang liit ng picture ng certificate nila. Sinubukan ko ring i-zoom pero mukhang sinadya yatang hanggang ganun lang talaga. Senya na, siguro naman naiintindihan nyo na ako kung bakit wala talaga akong katiwa tiwala sa mga taong ito... puro yabang pero mga mapanglinlang  :boxing:

   
   




Nice! I agree with you on this. That is one reason why I do not endorse companies like UNO, AIM Global or Front Row. Honestly, their business is to sell the company and not to sell a product. Their primary mission and purpose is to have people sell the business. They do not care about product sales as much as selling the business.

As I had kept saying, the purpose of this business is to sell the business, and they use the product as a springboard. Unlike long-term huge MLMs, they sell the product and they use the MLM business model to sell.


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naiinis po talaga ako sa Vitamin C nila na kapag pinisil ang capsule halos walang laman...

 :help:


Eh pano, the product they have is secondary. Their primary product is their own business. Ever wonder why their name is "Unlimited Network of Opportunities"?


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 http://www.uno-corp.com/about-05-sec.html   copy paste mo sa pc mo then zoom mo.. para mabasa mo ng maayos  :harhar:  :watchuthink:
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