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Guys, share ko lang ung-na-experience ko sa Western Union
Nagpadala kasi ako ng pera, April 19, 2015 sa kaibigan ko...
April 20, 2015 morning na-check ko sa online, na nakuha na ng sunday 7pm ung pera...
samantalang ung friend ko, hindi nya pa nakukuha ung pera...
So tumawag ako sa Western Union hotline, sa cebu dw nakuha ung pera (samantalang-tga metro manila lng ung pinalhan ko)sa nangyari...tawag nlang daw
ako dun sa fraud hotline nila. na mahirap nmn mcontact...
so kaya nag-search ako sa internet na marami n plang issue na to...sa ibang bansa..
pero dito sa pilipinas, so far 2 case plang ung nakita ko…

eto galing sa online======
i said how is that possible?
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=1490629
he told me that some WESTERN UNION AGENTS might run a
scam and get paid commission by the criminal to cash the
transfer, or they have used fake ID which hasnt been checked out correctly.
NEVER EVER EVER SEND MONEY BY WESTERN UNION, IT IS NOT SAFE !!!!!!!!!!!
THE AGENTS DO NOT FOLLOW ANY RULES ON ID CHECKING,
===Same issue na nakita ko sa facebook,
https://www.facebook.com/takeone.closet?fref=nf
as of now, im trying to report it sa media - kasi bago lng ito sa akin...
....THanks to pinoymoneytalk, kasi...i have a good money management & portfolio, which i learned in this site...

« Last Edit: Jan 15, 2017, 11:38 PM by FutureGizmo »


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Reply #1 on: Apr 21, 2015, 01:59 PM
Patay tayo dyan. Madalas pa naman akong magpadala ng pera through Western Union.


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Reply #2 on: Apr 21, 2015, 03:13 PM
yup. not only western union. i think there is added risk if you send money using external agents instead of sending it directly to bank acct. these transfer agents have less security thank banks. that’s why i don’t send money via transfer agents. maybe it is still ok to send for small transactions, e.g.  less than 10k.

careful!


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Reply #3 on: Apr 21, 2015, 09:45 PM
update ko lang po ito,dahil wala naman akong work ngayon...
mag-ffile ako ng formal complaint......so we'll see if makukuha ko pa ung pera....
so nakapag send na ako sa western union ng complaint form nila...kaso up to 1-3 weeks daw ung investigation.
maybe this week, i'll go to NBI...
Siguro, atleast gawin ko na lang ung part ko as a good citizen. Mauulit lng ito kung walang mag-rereport....


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Reply #4 on: Apr 22, 2015, 12:10 PM
Sir vhast,
Hindi po yan bagong scam. May balita na dati or may nagpost dati dito ganyan rin nangyari.

Tama po, magsumbong kayo sa media o NBI. Sana po mabawi ang pera.


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Reply #5 on: Apr 26, 2015, 10:36 AM
wow, nag-message si master Ferrari......
yes parang dati na nga ito...kaso...mjo untold story for me...
eto ung nakita ko na mga same issue din...nakuha yung pera khit hindi sa nakapangalan sa knila...
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=283233
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/western-union-agents-accused-of-helping-scammers-1.2519010

Btw,update ko lang, nag-report na ako sa NBI and western union, and try ko din sa police....
,mjo hindi ko nasabi ung complete story ung sa aken, i forced to give the tracking number sa isang seller sa OLX.com...pero hindi ko binigay ung name ng receiver. and purpose nya daw i-check lang ung pera if ihave enough cash to pay his item..para mapadala nya na ung item para ma-check ko, then pde ko ng ipadala sa kanyang name ung pera...
and mali ko...hindi ko naiisip kung may kasabwat sya sa western union, to get the name of my friend and make fake id to get the money....
i-post ko dito ung details nya., kasi b4 ako nkipagtransact sa knya..walang result si google na scam sya....pra hindi na sya makapang-victim ng iba..

olx account: BrianBejarValdez (madami syang account sa OLX)...
email ad used in Facebook:
heartjumaos@ilovejesus.net
https://www.facebook.com/marygoldilovejesus  , pero ang ginamit nya dito is ibang panglan Gretchen Liberty M. Valdez
Possible Real Name: Ian Verollo Jumao-as (nakuha ko ito, kakatingin sa relatives nya sa facebook, although hindi ako sure if Ian and real first name nya)
Location: Cebu City..

nag-message na ko sa ibang relatives nya, pero hindi sila nag-rreply khit may update na ung timeline nila....

« Last Edit: Apr 27, 2015, 07:10 PM by vhast »


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Reply #6 on: Apr 27, 2015, 12:40 PM
wow, nag-message si master Ferrari......
yes parang dati na nga ito...kaso...mjo untold story for me...
eto ung nakita ko na mga same issue din...nakuha yung pera khit hindi sa nakapangalan sa knila...
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=283233
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/western-union-agents-accused-of-helping-scammers-1.2519010

Btw,update ko lang, nag-report na ako sa NBI and western union, and try ko din sa police....
,mjo hindi ko nasabi ung complete story ung sa aken, i forced to give the tracking number sa isang seller sa OLX.com...pero hindi ko binigay ung name ng receiver. and purpose nya daw i-check lang ung pera if ihave enough cash to pay his item..para mapadala nya na ung item para ma-check ko, then pde ko ng ipadala sa kanyang name ung pera...
and mali ko...hindi ko naiisip kung may kasabwat sya sa western union, to get the name of my friend and make fake id to get the money....
i-post ko dito ung details nya., kasi b4 ako nkipagtransact sa knya..walang result si google na scam sya....pra hindi na sya makapang-victim ng iba..

olx account: BrianBejarValdez (madami syang account sa OLX)...
http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/72391906/Nikon+D7100+DSLR+Camera+with+18-140mm+VR+Lens_shutter+count+3505
https://www.google.com/search?q=olx+brian+bejar+valdez&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

email ad used in Facebook:
heartjumaos@ilovejesus.net
https://www.facebook.com/marygoldilovejesus  , pero ang ginamit nya dito is ibang panglan Gretchen Liberty M. Valdez
Possible Real Name: Ian Verollo Jumao-as (nakuha ko ito, kakatingin sa relatives nya sa facebook, although hindi ako sure if Ian and real first name nya)
Location: Cebu City..

nag-message na ko sa ibang relatives nya, pero hindi sila nag-rreply khit may update na ung timeline nila....

If that is how you told your story to Western Union, most likely they will deny any liability on their part (you are not qualified for a refund). inamin  mo na na ikaw ang may pagkakamali giving the tracking number to a third person. NBI naman napakalimited ng resources para iinvestigate ang kaso mo. Pwede pa siguro kung 20 katao kayong nagreklamo against WU or a scammer.

Baka charge to experience mo na lang ito na matatawag, next time be very careful with your online transactions, or pumili ng mas safe na mode of payment. WU is a foreign-owned company with local agents. Pag yung agent ang hinabol mo for refund, ituturo nila ang WU as their principal. Pero wala tayong way na habulin o papanagutin ang WU dahil wala silang opisina sa Pilipinas.


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Reply #7 on: Apr 27, 2015, 02:21 PM
^^
u may have a share of fault here by revealing ur tracking no. anyway thanks for posting as warning for others.

direct bank transfer is more secure so it is prudent to use if possible.

 :hello:


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Reply #8 on: Apr 27, 2015, 02:55 PM
yes, charge to experience talaga ito...ito na siguro ung first and last transaction ko sa western union,
pero update ko lang ito....nag-file na ako ng "non-claim form", pede pa daw ito mabawi (pero hindi ako umaasa)...
kapag - na prove if meron silang pagkakamali.., kasi...makikita naman
sa CCTV kung sino ung nag-claim + picture and kung anong 2-valid iD ung pinakita.....
naging honest ako, kasi naisip ko din baka ung ka-transact ko is isang western union agent,
ang isip ko nalang - gawin ko na lang ung part ko as citizen, kaysa wala naman akong gawin...
 - thanks sa  mga reply - update ko na lang ito - what will happen next....








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Reply #9 on: Apr 28, 2015, 02:06 PM
repost ko lang po for more details, with picture
SCAM THROUGH WESTERN UNION AGENT
Naging victim po ako ng taong ito, marami syang account sa OLX.com,
OLX account: BrianBejarValdez, GLIRValdez, IckeyrodValdez
http://members.olx.ph/MrBrianBejarValdez
http://members.olx.ph/GLIRValdez
http://members.olx.ph/IckeyrodValdez

email ad used: heartjumaos@ilovejesus.net
 FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/marygoldilovejesus

   - He is using fake name under Brian Valdez, Ickey Rod B. Valdez & FB name Gretchen Liberty M. Valdez
Possible Real Name: IAN VEROLLO JUMAO-AS, but see updated information below.

Location: Cebu
CP number used:
09288642060
09774635967
09214241035
09154289056
09254507269
09254507269

Actually kasabwat nya yung nagpakilalang asawa nya…
I believe, this person has connections in some western union agents  - because he can still claim the money even I just gave the "tracking number only" and nakapangalan p un sa friend ko…
Ang style kasi nito, para ma-check nya daw if I have enough cash to pay the item, para ma-ideliver nya na yung item sa akin for testing. Kapag ok na, then pede ko nang ipadala sa Name nya yung cash….(sounds good right?..)
Misis nya yung tumawag pa sa skin, tpos..kunwari nasa hospital sila kasi…for emergency dw kya mjo mura yung item…
And take note, may GodBless pa yan ha….and he uses religious words,para sa church daw…etc….

Eto po picture nila, I covered black yung mga bata to protect them,



Other Victims

https://www.facebook.com/takeone.closet?fref=nf

http://www.reklamo.ph/jessica-jumaoas-estelita-jumaoas-bryan-bejar/


Other scams that involves western union agents
24 Oras: $5,000 o mahigit P200,000 na perang padala para sa isang babae, kinuha raw ng iba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ_onz85F2o
Western Union agents accused of helping scammers, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/western-union-agents-accused-of-helping-scammers-1.2519010

"WESTERN UNION AGENTS might run a scam and get paid commission by the criminal to cash the transfer, or they have used fake ID which hasn't been checked out correctly."
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=1490629
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/western-union-agent-peter-oyewor-a58650/
http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/news/alert-online-scam-involving-gumtree-paypal-and-western-union-oct14
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/finance/western-union.html

Eto po sa LBC indicident naman..
Ipinadalang pera para sa lalaki sa Bulacan, nakuha ng kapangalan sa Cebu
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/377119/ulatfilipino/balitangpinoy/ipinadalang-pera-para-sa-lalaki-sa-bulacan-nakuha-ng-kapangalan-sa-cebu

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Update: Now, I decided to suspect these three brothers namely:
Engelbert Verallo Jumao-as(Bert VJ)
John Bert Verallo Jumao-as(John-ex Saomuj)
Nino Edgar Jumao-as.

because they declare  Gretchen Liberty M. Valdez(the scammer) as their brother, aka "brian Bejar Valdez", (May 12, 2015) he changed it to "Ickey Rod V. Valdez" ?.. But Notice, check their sister's account Marites Jumao-as, didn’t declare gretchen as her brother, though  she even declares  her cousin in her account. I talked to their Mother- Fe Verallo Jumao-as, she has only 3 sons and 1 daughter, and she said "kausapin ko na lang yung mga anak nya kasi nasa New Zealand siya"….
But they are not answering my questions…
I also noticed, they are the owners in the same Internet Shop "Fesnet Internet Café" and Bert VJ knows photography - because the item used in fake OLX account was a DSLR (nikon & canon)!, But if I'm wrong - let me know.
These are their accounts,
 Gretchen Liberty M. Valdez aka "Brian Bejar Valdez" "Ickey Rod V. Valdez" https://www.facebook.com/marygoldilovejesus/about?section=relationship
(brother)Nino Edgar Jumao-as https://www.facebook.com/ninoedgar.jumaoas/about?section=relationship

(brother)Engelbert Verallo Jumao-as(Bert VJ) https://www.facebook.com/engelvj/about?section=relationship

(brother)John Bert Verallo Jumao-as(John-ex Saomuj) https://www.facebook.com/johnbertvj/about?section=relationship


These are not connected with this fraud, for reference only
(sister)Marites Jumao-as https://www.facebook.com/marites.jumaoasmenchavez/about?section=relationship
(Mother)Fe Verallo Jumao-as https://www.facebook.com/Fevj52
« Last Edit: May 27, 2015, 07:43 AM by vhast »


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Reply #10 on: May 14, 2015, 10:00 PM
Warning lang po…..nag-post kasi ulet yung nag-scam sa akin
Ngayon he uses Elizabeth-Carl A. Lim as his name, couple po sila magkukunwari na nasa hospital kaya medyo mura ung item. Eto po ung fb page nya https://www.facebook.com/marygoldilovejesus , you'll notice also this scammer declared as brother of these three : Nino Edgar Jumao-as, Engelbert Verallo Jumao-as(Bert VJ) & John Bert Verallo Jumao-as(John-ex Saomuj) - so may hinala din ako sa 3 tatlong magkakapatid na ito…

(brother)Nino Edgar Jumao-as https://www.facebook.com/ninoedgar.jumaoas/about?section=relationship
(brother)Engelbert Verallo Jumao-as(Bert VJ) https://www.facebook.com/engelvj/about?section=relationship
(brother)John Bert Verallo Jumao-as(John-ex Saomuj) https://www.facebook.com/johnbertvj/about?section=relationship

Ito po ung ad nya po ngayon……try nyo po…pls..let me know.
http://m.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/73339200/Nikon+D7100+DSLR+Cam+with+18-105mm+VR+kit+Lens_Shutter+Count+3505?referralKeywords=nikon+d7100




BDO Account
Account Name: Ranel Balansag
Account Number: 6140067358
Location: Mandaue City, Cebu
Union bank savings account
Summer Destura 109452421275
Ralph Jordan Rabina 404528100536758
Smart Money
Elizabeth B. Lim 5577511001548112
« Last Edit: May 29, 2015, 06:03 AM by vhast »


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Reply #11 on: May 14, 2015, 10:43 PM
^
Nareport mo po ba yung ad na possible scam?
Meron button sa baba "Report this Ad".
Hindi ba pwede mag leave ng comment sa ad nila?


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Reply #12 on: May 15, 2015, 08:24 AM
@market_market
yes, nareport ko na ung ad, pero active pa din sya hanggang ngayon..
as far as i know, hindi pede magpost ng comment-syang para makita sana ng iba...
« Last Edit: May 15, 2015, 08:26 AM by vhast »


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Reply #13 on: May 18, 2015, 07:44 AM
meron na bang na-scam na nag send from abroad to Pinas? madalas pa naman akong mag send through WU. kumusta ba ang xoom.com? balita ko, mura ang pag-send pero yung recepient may charge na US$30.00 by the receiving bank (any bank such as BDO, etc). totoo ba eto? please share if you know anything about this...


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Reply #14 on: May 25, 2015, 11:04 AM
meron na bang na-scam na nag send from abroad to Pinas? madalas pa naman akong mag send through WU. kumusta ba ang xoom.com? balita ko, mura ang pag-send pero yung recepient may charge na US$30.00 by the receiving bank (any bank such as BDO, etc). totoo ba eto? please share if you know anything about this...
yes, marami nang nangyari na ganito, nabalita na nga sa 24 oras
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ_onz85F2o
pero mas safe kung hindi mo talaga maiwasa sa WU, thru bank account mo ipapadala...
sorry wala akong idea sa zoom, pero skrill (moneybookers) - ito ang natry ko...


 


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