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on: Jul 11, 2014, 12:58 AM
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Reply #1 on: Jul 11, 2014, 01:43 AM
have you NOT heard of identity theft before?


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Reply #2 on: Jul 11, 2014, 02:48 AM
kakabahan ako kung mag bibigay ako ng kahit anong personal information sa internet.
that' why i don't personally do it.
if others out there are comfortable with providing such information, that's fine. it's their life.
i was merely pointing out the danger with such actions.


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Reply #3 on: Jul 11, 2014, 06:09 AM
that's true; forex trading is not for me
that's why i don't do it

i'm pointing out the risk in providing personal information over the internet,
or in this case providing personal information to people you don't know
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Reply #4 on: Jul 11, 2014, 06:25 AM
This is a bait.


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Reply #5 on: Jul 11, 2014, 06:48 AM
two things:

1. the freebie could be the bait and used as distraction to gain valuable personal information;

2. legitimate freebie bait that may get you hooked into something that would cost more. casinos use the same strategy. they offer freebies and perks to get you to play (and most likely lose money)


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Reply #6 on: Jul 11, 2014, 07:05 AM
ayan ka na naman sa forex trading
umayon na nga ako sa iyo na hindi para sa akin ang forex trading
ano ang hindi mo nai tindihan dun?

bakit hindi yung lehitimong concern ko na pagbigay ng personal information sa internet o sa taong hindi ka kilala ang sagutin mo?

huwag mo naman akong insultuhin

unang patakaran sa forum:
batikusin ang mensahe; hindi ang mensahero


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Reply #7 on: Jul 11, 2014, 07:29 AM
two things:

1. the freebie could be the bait and used as distraction to gain valuable personal information;

2. legitimate freebie bait that may get you hooked into something that would cost more. casinos use the same strategy. they offer freebies and perks to get you to play (and most likely lose money)
reluma, these are valid concerns. Forex trading is like a "legitimate" casino multiplied by 10 or 100 times.

Understandably, iniinsulto mo si Sir p_p dahil naapektuhan yung side-business mo which is pagiging agent mo ng brokers. Ang kaso lang, hindi naman tamang mang-insulto.

Hindi na talaga kailangan ni Sir p_p ng trading, kasi well-off na yan at "medyo senior" (pamasko ko Sir p_p  :D ) na yan kaya galangin mo.

Wag na tayo magpaligoy-ligoy pa. Kung totoong matagal ka na rin nagte-trade, alam mong walang zero risk sa trading, especially pag baguhang traders na ang pinag-uusapan. Oo zero risk, pag wala sila nilabas na pera. E paano pag naglabas na sila ng pera? At nagdagdag pa ng deposit? ng ilang beses? The regular offers of brokers are without a doubt baits to continue attracting new traders.

Wag mo i-advertise yung sideline business mo at the expense of new traders. Kaya mahirap maging agent kasi magkakaroon ng ganitong conflict of interest. Mas maganda magfocus na lang sa trading.


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Reply #8 on: Jul 11, 2014, 07:30 AM
ang unang reply ko sa post mo ay isang katanungan. yun ay para magkaroon ng basehan sa talakayan. ang sagot mo ay oo. papano naman kita inatake dun?


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Reply #9 on: Jul 11, 2014, 07:35 AM
LOL I know what "Identity Theft" means. and kung inaakala mo na magagamit tong mga documents na hinihingi nila sa maling paraan eh nagkakamali ka...
ang nagiimpose nito kundi ang mga "Regulating Body" like FCA, SySEC etc...
Bro, you talk about facts pero ikaw mismo na representative ng broker, mali ang information na binibigay mo. mapapahiya broker mo sa sinasabi mo sa client mo. Hindi Sysec. It should be Cysec.

REQUIRED ANG MGA REGULATED FOREX BROKERS NG MGA REGULATING BODY TULAD NG FCA AT SYSEC AMONG OTHER
Akala ko typo. error yung una, hindi pala.

CySec bro.  :D
« Last Edit: Jul 11, 2014, 07:39 AM by ferrariEverest »


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Reply #10 on: Jul 11, 2014, 07:41 AM
@ferrari, may disclaimer ako sa taas ng thread ko so obviously nasa tao na yun kung gusto nyang pasukin ang negosyong ito.

besides , trader ka din. or maybe at some point (dunno) kaya alam mo ang sagot sa tanong ni pulubi. right?
Bro, it's not a question of whether or not I know the answer. It's a question of whether or not you understand where Sir p_p (an outsider or non-trader looking in) is coming from and if you can address his concerns without insulting him or others.

Sa totoo lang, bilang isang trader, ang tamang disclaimer is "mag-ingat kayo at hangga't maari wag kayo papatol sa promos ng brokers or IBs." Pero since agent or IB ka, negosyo ang mindset mo kaya iba ang disclaimer na nilagay mo. Ayaw mo ba magfocus na lang sa trading at wag na mag-IB? Pwede ka naman mag-manage ng accounts or magpa-copy trade na lang, wag na mag-IB? May conflict of interest kasi pag IB.
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Reply #11 on: Jul 11, 2014, 08:01 AM
hindi ko inisip yung side-business ko, kung trader ka.. tingin mo, san ka kikita ng malaki, sa pag trade mo mismo o sa pag aahente na kikita kalang ng $1 per standard lot trades ng clients mo?

ang inisip ko dito is yung maibalita sa ibang mga gusto mag trade na may chance silang makapag trade without risking any amount dahil walang cash out. secondary nalang yung $1 na kikitain ko kung sakali sa bawat trade nila. besides, may kasamang libreng training ang offer ko (yun eh kung nabasa mo nga). training na pinababayaran ng iba. and like i said, hindi mga tanga ang tao na gustong pasukin ang trading lalo na sa panahon ngayong laganap na ang kaalaman.
@pulubi, hindi katanungan yan. yan ay malinaw na pang iinsulto! kaya wag mokong gaguhin (yung iba baka mapaniwala mo pa) pero para sakin, negative ang dating ng reply mo. pwede mo naman sanang ire-phrase yung reply mo sa magandang tono eh.
Basahin mo yung reply mo sa itaas. Kinokontra mo sarili mo.

Kung talagang hindi mo iniisip ang side business mo, bakit nag-effort ka pa na magpost dito at mag-promote at insultuhin si Sir p_p? Sabi mo "laganap na ang kaalaman ngayon" at "hindi tanga ang mga tao" pero binanggit mo ang words na "ignorante" at "gaguhin" (referring to pulubing_palaboy)? Hindi ba dapat magalang ka sa lahat lalo na may inooffer ka sa kanila?

Kung talagang malaki na kita mo sa trading, bakit ka nagtatyagang i-promote yung pagiging agent mo, kung saan para sa iyo barya lang ang kita?

Kung talagang magaling ka magturo, bakit libre ang turo mo, samantalang negosyante ka at gusto mo makakuha ng napakaraming pera?

Hindi ka consistent, bro.


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Reply #12 on: Jul 11, 2014, 08:43 AM
@reluma

ganito lang yan eh
base sa usapan ninyo ni FE, let's take for granted na lehitimo ka, ang offer mo, at ang kompanya ninyo.
my first question was to have you think about MY concern if i were interested in your offer. and let me reiterate again, it was an honest question.
now, if i was in your position and i was really concerned for would be clients, my response would have been to try to alleviate their concern regarding security of personal information.
perhaps i would have acknowledged, that yes, that is a valid concern; and then perhaps cite steps your company has taken to ensure the security and prevention of possible unauthorized dissemination of such information.
but no, you went on a personal tirade to the point of insulting me.
well, if i were a potential client, your arrogant behavior just lost my business,
and perhaps those of others reading this thread.
« Last Edit: Jul 11, 2014, 08:49 AM by pulubing_palaboy »


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Reply #13 on: Jul 11, 2014, 09:00 AM
pero para sagutin ang tanong mo, nag eefort ako para makatulong sa mga intresado na walang puhunan. dimo ba nakikita, mas malaki pa kikitain pag mag trade nalang kesa mag IB?

kung dimo parin maintindihan eh para mo din sinasabing.. "bakit nagta tyaga pa ang mga professors sa college magturo na maliit lang ang kita nila compared kung mag private practice nalang dahil mas malaki pa ng di hamak ang kita".... aber, paano mo ngayon sasagutin yan? kasi katulad lang din yan ng tanong na binabalik mo sakin.
You are the one twisting words since you have a twisted logic. Bakit ayaw mo sagutin mga tanong ko?

Kung talagang hindi mo iniisip ang side business mo, bakit nag-effort ka pa na magpost dito at mag-promote at insultuhin si Sir p_p?

Kung talagang malaki na kita mo sa trading, bakit ka nagtatyagang i-promote yung pagiging agent mo, kung saan para sa iyo barya lang ang kita?

Kung talagang magaling ka magturo, bakit libre ang turo mo, samantalang negosyante ka at gusto mo makakuha ng napakaraming pera?

Tama bang ikumpara mo sitwasyon mo sa teachers?

Kung talagang ang intensiyon mo is tumulong, tumulong ka ng libre. Tutal barya lang sa iyo ang pagiging agent d ba?

Kailangan ng kabuhayan ng mga teacher. Kumakain sila, may gastos sila. I'm sure kung walang problema sa pera ang teachers, they would be willing to teach for free, kasi passion nila magturo. Ang totoo nyan, napakaraming sakripisyo ng teachers, so malayo sila sa iyo at hindi tamang ikumpara mo sarili mo sa kanila.

Ikaw, willing ka ba magturo ng libre? If so, I challenge you to do it and stop being a broker agent. Patunayan mo na sincere ka. Pero I doubt it because puro pera nasa utak mo.

hindi ikaw ang magsasabi kung anong tamang disclaimer. bakit mo pipigilan ang impormasyon kung alam mong makakatulong ito sa taong gustong magsimula ng trading na walang cash out? (yun eh kung tulong talaga ang intension mo)

whether pinili kong mag IB o mag trade lang is not your business. para sakin walang mali dun. iba ang pananaw mo at iba ang pananaw ko. kung gusto mong maging pulitiko o bayani, fine. pero ako, negosyante ako kaya gagawin ko ang alam kong tama.
Hindi ako ang magsasabi kung anong tamang disclaimer pero yun ang totoo at tamang disclaimer. Mag-ingat at wag papatol sa offers or gimicks ng IBs at brokers. Aminin mo man o hindi. Para kang hindi totoong trader nyan e. Pumapanig ka na sa brokers para lang kumita ka kahit na maapektuhan yung kapwa traders natin.

Hindi naman namin pinigilan ang information mo, nagkomento lang kami at binanggit ang mga butas at mali sa information mo.

Bro, do what you have to do but not at the expense of others, to the point of insulting them, gaya ng ginawa mo ng paulit ulit kanina kay Sir p_p. Saka don't talk about facts when you can't even represent your broker well. Bago ka magpresent ng business mo, ayusin mo lahat. CySec lang hindi mo pa ma-type ng tama.

lol typo yan. inaamin ko. besides, common knowledge na yan at sakin hindi yan big deal. kahit i type mo yan sa google, itatama ang sagot mo.
LOL. typo. error ba yung dalawang beses nangyari? Ibig sabihin mali talaga or hindi mo talaga alam na CySec yun at hindi Sysec.

Paano naging common knowledge, samatalang konti lang ang forex traders sa Pilipinas? Big deal yan kasi regulator yan, ikaw na rin nagsabi. Saka hindi mo ba napansin sobrang konti nagpopost sa forex threads dito kumpara sa stocks? Kasi nga konti lang nakakaalam sa forex trading.

Ngayon naman nagsinungaling ka pa. Bago ka pa nagreply, 15-30 minutes ago, sinubukan ko yan. HINDI kinorek ni Google kasi meron mismong Sysec. at iba yan sa pinaguusapan nating CySec.
« Last Edit: Jul 11, 2014, 09:02 AM by ferrariEverest »


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Reply #14 on: Jul 11, 2014, 09:07 AM
Eto yung sinasabi mong Sysec.

http://www.sysec.co.uk/

Pag na-Google mo ang Sysec, yan ang lalabas.


 


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