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jeffie18

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on: May 03, 2014, 04:04 AM
My girlfriend is a Jehova's Witness and I am Catholic. I am not that religious pero I believe in God. Its just that I'd rather believe in salvation than religion. She wants me to be converted. Ok lang sakin pero I don't want to do it dahil lang sa gusto niya. Ayoko kasi it seems that different religions have different set of rules or guides pero in the end same lang naman ang goal, to be a better person. Hindi naman niya ako pini pressure or what pero I want to give her a peace of mind.

What is a good way to say No?

Ayoko kasi talaga and at the same time I don't want to risk our relationship.

Need some advice please. Thank you guys.


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Reply #1 on: May 03, 2014, 09:29 AM
Christianity is a religion founded by Christ... jehovah witness is a denomination among various sects within   christianity...


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Reply #2 on: May 03, 2014, 12:03 PM
in the future kung magpakasal kayo sa church, hindi ata pwede na magkapasal kayo na hindi kayo pareho na jehovah witness nor catholic. dapat may isa na mag-sacrifice sa ngalan ng pag-iibigan nyo. in my case, bininyagan ako uli at iba pang mga rites na needed bago kami kinasal ni misis sa catholic church (catholic kasi si misis, aglipayan naman ako before marriage), katulad mo rin ako, hindi gaano religious but I believe in God. kaya hindi issue sa akin kung maconvert man ako sa catholic basta makasal lang kami ni misis sa church ayaw ko kasi na hindi sa church kami makasal kahit na payag si misis noon na sa judge lang kami pakasal.

kung balak nyo pakasal sa church medyo magkaproblema kayo dyan kung walang magpaconvert. pero kung sa judge/mayor lang kayo pakasal (o kaya live-in lang), i think wala namang problema.

confirm mo lang sa kanya kung talaga bang hindi pwede pakasal sa church nila kung hindi ka maconvert.


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Reply #3 on: May 03, 2014, 12:44 PM
Why not convert to Jehovah's Witness?
After you get married to your girlfriend, convert back to Catholicism.
I don't think you will be breaking any laws in our country if you convert.
This is not some Middle-East country where you get killed for choosing a different religion.

Also, ask your girlfriend if she is willing to convert for your sake?
I mean, you are considering changing your religion for her, is she capable of doing the same for you?
Ask her the reasons why she doesn't want your religion.  You can use the same reasons why you can't convert to hers.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2014, 12:46 PM by Market_Market »


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Reply #4 on: May 03, 2014, 01:21 PM
Tell her that religion is just a way of devotion, but what makes you devoted is your faith and salvation  :D

...my opinion: If one religion forbids you to love a person just because of different religions, then by all means both of you should convert.

Just remember to keep your faith in God Almighty so you'll know  that wherever the both of you go, your bond in HIM has never changed.

But then again, this is easier said than done. Nagkagirlfriend narin ako ng JW and I know how you feel. Strict sila. Wala silang birthday. Wala silang fiesta-fiesta. Hindi sila pwedeng bumoto at iboto. Hindi pwede sa kanila ang ibang relihiyon, lalong-lalo na sa Katoliko (dahil marami silang hindi sinasang-ayunan sa Catholic religion :hihi:). Marami talagang bawal sa kanila, pero mabait naman sila. In the end, it didn't work out for us. Pero bata pa kami noon, hindi pa matured.  :angel:  Now that you're thinking about marriage, I'm sure pinagdaanan na ninyo 'yun and you've met and settled with your differences. True love talaga yan bro, wag mo na pakawalan!  :idol: :idol: :idol:

Just be sure na bigyan mo siya ng assurance na kahit ano man ang relihiyon ninyo, hindi parin matitinag ang pagmamahalan ninyo sa isa't isa at ang pagmamahal ninyo sa Poong Maykapal.


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Reply #5 on: May 03, 2014, 06:24 PM
Sa ating Catholic walang problema ang hindi catholic, bukas sa puso natin yang tinanggap sila na walang pinagkaiba, pero sa kanila kasi big deal ang ibang relihiyon lalo na sa Katoliko. Kontra talaga nila.

Malaking problema dyan Jeff kung kayo mag asawa na, dyan pumapasok ang problema kasi yong mga bata hindi alam saan susunod, at nakakalito kung aling aral na ang susundin, Tapos yong magiging asawa mo kasi big deal sa kanila tayo, dyan im sure laging nakasimangot yan lalo tungkol sa rebulto at pag umpisahan pa nang away. hehehe!!

Sa side mo naman ganito yan...kung alam mo alin sa dalawa ang tayo lang ng tao, tapos pinagpalit mo ang simbahang tayo ni Kristo, dilikado kana nyan, hindi kana mapasama as invincible ignorant (Luke 23:24).So malaking pananagutan.

Its true na pariho lang aim ng relihiyon to be a better person but God has his own prepared way para ka doon dumaan. Kaya nga saan ka sa fake o totoo? Obviously the answer doon sa totoo.

Tungkol naman “how to say no” , tell her na bago kayo nag umpisa or sa umpisa palang magkaiba kayo ng paniniwala , nagkasundo at nagmamahalan, bakit kailangan may baguhin, hindi ka naman naging masama dahil sa katoliko ka at ganun din siya sa paniniwala niya, in that case magkakaroon pa kayo ng mahabang oras para timbangin kung alin nakakabuti sa inyong dalawa. Study the Catholicism well bago mag disisyong lumipat atleast fully understood mo kung ano ba itong iiwanan mo at tatalonan mo.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2014, 06:25 PM by akoni »


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Reply #6 on: May 03, 2014, 08:38 PM
What is a good way to say No?

Ayoko kasi talaga and at the same time I don't want to risk our relationship.

Need some advice please. Thank you guys.

Do not ever say NO until you are ready to break up with her.

Postpone the inevitable even if it is hard to do...........
« Last Edit: May 03, 2014, 08:40 PM by bauer »


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Reply #7 on: May 04, 2014, 11:59 AM
My girlfriend is a Jehova's Witness and I am Catholic. I am not that religious pero I believe in God. Its just that I'd rather believe in salvation than religion. She wants me to be converted. Ok lang sakin pero I don't want to do it dahil lang sa gusto niya. Ayoko kasi it seems that different religions have different set of rules or guides pero in the end same lang naman ang goal, to be a better person. Hindi naman niya ako pini pressure or what pero I want to give her a peace of mind.

What is a good way to say No?

Ayoko kasi talaga and at the same time I don't want to risk our relationship.

Need some advice please. Thank you guys.
Kalimutan nyo na yang mga relihiyon.

Religions are made in order to polarize us. Wag kayo magpaapekto.

Wag nyo gawing malaking isyu ang relihiyon. Magmahalan kayo at gumawa ng mabuti sa sarili at kapwa, yan ang importante.


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Reply #8 on: May 04, 2014, 08:21 PM
Gustong gusto ko yung mga reply niyo. Thanks guys. Mas tumitibay loob ko.

I belive in God as much as I beleieve in us. :)


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Reply #9 on: May 04, 2014, 09:28 PM
hahaha... religion is not your salvation... kasinungalingan ang mga nagsassabing sila ang maliligtas dahil wlang nakakaligtas sa kamatayan.... at ang kamatayan walang pini[iling relihiyon kung sino ang mamamatay..


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Reply #10 on: May 09, 2014, 01:20 AM
Sir Jeffie, if your GF is serious about her religion, you better make a decision NOW. Delaying the inevitable only makes things worse at the end. Plus masasayang lang oras nyo.

Re openness of Catholics. all I can say is you won't be allowed to get married in a Catholic Church or by any of its priests unless you are both Catholics.

The suggestion naman about converting and reverting back to your original religion is an even worse idea. That is deception which I doubt your GF will appreciate.

And please just because a religion claims to be based on the Bible or what not doesn't mean it is so. JV is so different from Catholics as the two are also different from being a Protestant, which again has so many sects, legit or otherwise.

The end goals are also not the same. Not all religion aims to make you a better person. In some, becoming a better person is just a sort of by-product.

Lastly napansin ko lang etong post:
"...my opinion: If one religion forbids you to love a person just because of different religions, then by all means both of you should convert."

Ang ending nyan after the both get converted - you become a JV while your GF becomes a Catholic. Hmm ... that doesn't seem right.


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Reply #11 on: May 09, 2014, 10:09 AM
Mag live-in na lang kayo.


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Reply #12 on: May 11, 2014, 08:58 AM
It's a little bit cold-blooded or unromantic, but get a lawyer to draft you a pre-nuptial agreement pertaining as to how the kids will be raised in view of your different religions.( I hope not clashing religions---like, one would be worshipping bats and the other one would like his' skewered in a stick and barbecued to perfection)

edit: hanuhbayanIjumpedthegunagain  :D

Religion accdg. to epep( para sa 2 adults na mangsing-irog): religion you can tamper with because it is man-made. Faith- no can do. Parang Catholic to Muslim back to Catholic<---pero hindi tinamaan ng kidlat si Loren legarda ha?  :D
« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 09:03 AM by freefront »


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Reply #13 on: May 11, 2014, 10:14 AM
Ask mo po kung naniniwala siya sa bible. Kapag sinabi po nyang oo, then sabihin mo po wala naman problema kung di ikaw magpa-convert dahil allowed naman po ng bible na mag-asawa ang dalawang magkaiba ng religion.

1Co 7:13  At ang babaing may asawang hindi sumasampalataya, at kalooban niyang makipamahay sa kaniya, ay huwag niyang hiwalayan ang kaniyang asawa.

Ang alam ko pwede naman yata ikasal sa Catholicism ang magkaiba ng religion (wag lang sasabihin na iba religion ng isa), so, doon na lang kayo pakasal. Parang Mama at Papa ko. Magkaiba ng religion pero sa Catholic Church ikinasal.

Pero kung ayaw talaga, then, civil wedding na lang.  :watchuthink:


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Reply #14 on: May 11, 2014, 10:43 AM
^may kaibigan ako INC and RC, dahil strikto ang INC tungkol sa sanlibutan, sa RC sila (plus civil) kinasal... several babies after, nag-decide yung isa magconvert sa RC... dahil gusto yata nila ienrol sa exclusive boy's catholic school ang mga anak at kailangan RC ang parents..

so TS, kung si GF na ang iyong "the One", baka pwede mo yang gawing argumento... gusto mo mag-aral sila sa magandang school (usually catholic schools), at madidiscriminate sila pag hindi kayo catholic... problema mo na lang e kung kakayanin mo yung tuition nila  :harhar:
« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 10:56 AM by vicces »


 


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