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tama bang maawa ako sa mga taong masaya ng kumain ng 1 o 2 beses sa isang araw? sa paningin ko kasi sa ganung klaseng pag iisip, they will no longer strive dahil they think ok na cla, papano kung may magkasakit, kailangan din mag-aral, magbayad ng kuryente, tubig etc. i know a person who do not want to take a job saying "ang liit ng sweldo" when he earns nothing at all. he prefers not earning anyhthing at all kesa tumanggap ng kulang na sweldo? i just dont get it? it made me realize that people are really the ones who choose their places on earth..one person i know works as an "on call waiter", for 14years that i know him, he said he is waiting for a job placement abroad na ang tagal tagal na. there are time i see him training for a job for 3 months to work there for 2 months :( malaki pa gastos sa kinita. since he has been waiting for a foreign job placement na di lumabas labas, i offered to shoulder plane tickets and expenses for 1 month so he could go to singapore, but telling him na kailangan malakas loob nya dahil hindi din madali maghanap ng work dun, tyagaan talaga...his reply to me was "pag iisipan ko".
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Reply #1 on: Dec 22, 2013, 11:49 AM
^this post is tugging me back to the darkside  :( I'm trying so hard to temper my puppy-picking tendencies (parang nag-uuwi lang mga asong kawawa sa kalsada, calling the vet, making them comfortable and becoming a foster human to the dog>>>I do that to people, too.). Good for you if you can afford it on all fronts. The emotional toll is heavy, so is the economic side, if you ever get the chance to analyze it.

The trick of doing what you offered to do for that person is to come outright and state your expectations about what's to become of your "help". Then, steel yourself to forget that "help". Sometimes, it's a one-shot deal. Others take too long( like 3 years and counting...) Some have good heads and their hearts are in the right place but they have loved ones who derail them time and time again. Patibayan na lang ng dibdib.#oversharing

A Swiss gentleman who sponsored a few of his bestfriend's wife's nephews in college(dito sa Pinas) told me to help people who already has something started( says something of their gumption, I suppose, kesa naman ganito>>> i know a person who do not want to take a job saying "ang liit ng sweldo" when he earns nothing at all. he prefers not earning anyhthing at all kesa tumanggap ng kulang na sweldo? ), and to give that person a ground to stand on and a little push. He expects good performance, and a result that is within a timeframe. For him, that translates to good grades, a diploma, preferably within 4 years.

Iwas gasgas sa kaluluwa: find very determined people. If the person you just mentioned doesn't figure too much on your personal well-being and happiness, leave him be for the time being, until he is practically venting smoke from his ears for the fire in his belly to better himself.



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Reply #2 on: Dec 22, 2013, 05:00 PM
Yan din ang hindi ko maintindihan sa iba nating kababayan. Everytime I go home naiirita ako sa ibang neighbors ng family ko because most of the jobless there are very young and im sure capable to do any job they could find but NO! every morning, still very early like 7-8 am they were already in the street doing nothing, chismisan or playing cards sa kanilang mga backyard. My brother whos engr has a construction business and he always encourage their husbands and sons to work in his projects but their answer is always "ikaw lang laman ang payayamanin namin"... though they know my bro pays his workers the right minimum wage... Anong klaseng sagot yun? So yeah! other ppl choose where they are and what kind of life they live... really!


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Reply #3 on: Dec 23, 2013, 12:19 PM
Same thoughts here. And I do air those thoughts to others from time to time when I get frustrated helping and pushing them. I don't expect anything in return. I just want these people to start living a life better than what they have now, and lessen the times they approach me for help esp. during emergencies.  But oftentimes, the answer is "mahirap gawin iyan", "pag iisipan ko", "busy ako", "hindi ko alam gawin iyan"..


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people who don't help themselves, DO NOT deserve mine.


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One day, a farmer was resting under a tree in the forest. A rabbit came out of nowhere and the farmer was able to catch it, had a good rabbit stew for dinner.

The next morning and days after, he went to that same place, waiting for another rabbit to pass by.... -chinese idiom (semi - obvious kasi rabbit yun meat hehe)

Maraming ganyan, naghihintay ng hulog ng langit.
« Last Edit: Dec 23, 2013, 02:06 PM by GoodSteward »


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minsan kasi, mahirap magsimula.  parang ang hirap hirap, nakaka overwhelm.  baka ganun yung mentality ng iba.  hindi nila alam saan mag start.  at baka dahil alam nila meron susuporta sa kanila nagiging complacent sila.


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gagatungan ko yung topic na ito.

ang daming taong ayaw mag-sikap, tapos kapag kulang pera nila or may hanadaan sa iyo manghihingi ng "sponsorship". mapa-kamag-anak, kapitbahay, kaibaigan....
ikaw ipon ng ipon tapos kapag kinapos sila sa iyo manghihingi....

pero kung mahina lang loob, kulang ang foresight, or motivation hanapin lang ang "kiliti"


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minsan kasi, mahirap magsimula.  parang ang hirap hirap, nakaka overwhelm.  baka ganun yung mentality ng iba.  hindi nila alam saan mag start.  at baka dahil alam nila meron susuporta sa kanila nagiging complacent sila.

You know what, the only time I applied for a local job, nakakasura nga. Parang ang nangyari, ok- you are in. Tapos, I was made to comply with office requirements. I kid you not. I actually said this: kaya naman pala madaming gustong tambay na lang. Andaming abala pag pumasok ka sa trabajo. City Hall, NBI, BIR, DTI, at dalawa pa yata nyan. Not to mention, I had to pass tests. The only positive side that made me stay---it didn't cramp my style. No uniforms, no time structure  :cool:


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may naalala tuloy ako sa isang seminar/orientation
presentor: ikaw sir/mam may trabaho o wala?
emplayado: meron po
tambay: wala po
presentor:may nakakain ba kayo?
empleyado at tambay: meron po
presentor:may pambili ba kayo ng pomporma or pangload sa text?
empleyado at tambay: mensan meron , minsan
presentor: so pareho... pala kayo... may ipon ba kayo?
empleyado at tambay: wala rin po
presentor: mas maigi pa tambay.... nabubuhay at nakakaraos hindi pa pagod sa trabaho.



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walang gamot sa sakit sa bato. :rakenrol:


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well sabi nga its not your fault if your born poor, but it's all your fault if you die poor


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I'd rather live as a poor man with lots of money....


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Everything is God's providence.. Everything is owned by God. Everything has been predestined before the creation of the world.  :applause:

To God Be The Glory :)


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mahirap kumbinsihin ang taong sarado ang utak, ganito ako few years back, paulit ulit ako sinasabihan ng tropa ko na kelngan ko magipon maginvest etc, di ako nakinig, sabi ko sahod ko to pinaghirapan ko to ieenjoy ko to, tapos buti nalang napadpad ako sa PMT tapos nagkita kami ulit, nagpasalamat ako sa pangungulit nya kahit hindi ako nakinig, walang ibang taong makakatulong sa atin kundi ang sarili natin


 


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