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PORK BARREL in the Philippines: Scrap or Retain?

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WITH THE WIDE SPREAD ABUSE OF THE PORK BARREL, DO YOU THINK IT'S TIME TO SCRAP IT?

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NO
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kobabear

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Reply #75 on: Aug 22, 2013, 12:00 PM
Unless we grow and mature as educated voters, this system will perpetuate. Popularity and money is still the name of the game in RP politics. You never see the likes of Michael Jordan running for public office in the US jusst to ride his popularity. I admire, Dolphy. When a reporter asked him why he's not running for public office, he replied:

" paano kung manalo ako" . HUMUROUS, TRUE and RESPONSIBLE guy.


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Reply #76 on: Aug 22, 2013, 12:51 PM
Unless we grow and mature as educated voters, this system will perpetuate. Popularity and money is still the name of the game in RP politics. You never see the likes of Michael Jordan running for public office in the US jusst to ride his popularity. I admire, Dolphy. When a reporter asked him why he's not running for public office, he replied:

" paano kung manalo ako" . HUMUROUS, TRUE and RESPONSIBLE guy.

Haha! nice one kobabear!


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Reply #77 on: Aug 22, 2013, 01:25 PM
Most of us wants to abolish PDAF or Pork Barrel. Maybe we can help by signing in the petitions to abolish it. There are a lot of petitions for the same and the list of links below are most of them. :coffee:

SIGN THE VARIOUS PETITIONS ON CHANGE.ORG
http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/philippine-senators-and-congressmen-enough-of-pdaf-scrap-the-pork-barrel-now
http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/president-of-the-philippines-abolish-the-pork-barrel-pdaf-funds-for-a-corrupt-free-philippines
https://www.change.org/petitions/suspend-the-implementation-of-the-priority-development-assistance-fund-pdaf-immediately
http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/to-the-president-of-the-republic-of-philippines-and-philippine-congress-abolish-pork-barrel-pdaf
https://www.change.org/petitions/the-office-of-the-ombudsman-conduct-an-impartial-investigation-of-the-grave-misuse-of-the-pdaf-3
https://www.change.org/ph/mga-petisyon/philippine-senators-and-congressmen-enough-of-pdaf-scrap-the-pork-barrel-now
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-philippine-government-senate-congress-alisin-ang-pondo-ng-priority-development-assistance-fund-pdaf
http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/people-of-the-philippines-calling-pnoy-to-create-a-body-to-investigate-the-p10b-pork-barrel-scam
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-president-of-the-republic-of-the-philippines-abolish-the-pork-barrel-system-in-our-local-politics
https://www.change.org/petitions/the-filipino-people-don-t-rest-until-the-pork-barrel-scammers-are-found
http://www.change.org/ph/mga-petisyon/philippine-congress-abolish-pork-barrel
http://www.change.org/petitions/luis-antonio-cardinal-tagle-and-all-bishops-in-the-philippines-cooperate-with-official-probe-into-pork-barrel-scam
http://www.change.org/petitions/all-religious-denominations-all-schools-all-ngo-s-stop-the-pork-barrel-pdf-of-senators-congressmen
http://www.change.org/ProbePDAFScam
http://www.change.org/ph/mga-petisyon/abolish-the-presidential-pork-barrel-funds
http://www.change.org/petitions/pangulong-benigno-aquino-iii-buwagin-ninyo-ang-pork-barrel-sa-lalong-madaling-panahon-2
https://www.change.org/ph/mga-petisyon/president-aquino-abolish-the-pork-barrel
https://www.change.org/ph/mga-petisyon/pnoy-at-lahat-na-may-pork-barrel-funds-transparency-on-pork-barrel-thru-website-for-proposals-undertakers?utm_campaign=share_button_action_box&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petit
http://www.change.org/petitions/philippine-supreme-court-philippine-congress-filipino-people-icj-and-un-full-implementation-of-the-phl-constitution-article-ii-section-26


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Reply #78 on: Aug 22, 2013, 05:49 PM




Santiago says ex-fugitive Lacson unfit to handle pork probe

MANILA, Philippines – Senator Miriam Defensor-Santiago on Thursday scoffed at the idea that former Senator Panfilo “Ping” Lacson – a former policeman and a “self-interested” politician whom she repeatedly called as “Pinky Lacson”- would help investigate the pork barrel scam.

Gumaganda ang boxing.. :boxing:

Read more: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/472249/santiago-says-ex-fugitive-lacson-unfit-to-handle-pork-probe#ixzz2cgqceEOl


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Reply #79 on: Aug 22, 2013, 07:32 PM
Source: facebook.com/anonymousagainstpdaf fashionpulis.com




Napoles' Family Contact information and addresses we're revealed and made public by PH hackers appeals to fellow tech gurus to hack Napoles' accounts and break into these emails so everything we need to know can be found there..

 Janet Napoles +63917 846 8420 +63917 525 0034 +632 636 5388 (land phone) +632 687 4009 (land phone)
 Jaime “Jimmy” Napoles +63917 525 4168 +63917 832 7005
 James Lim Napoles +63917 526 4168
 John Lim +63920 952 5288 +63917 528 5288
 Jo Christine Napoles (USA Phone number) 714 886 3000
 Jeane Napoles (USA Phone Number) 714 878 7875 949 748 3635
 Reynaldo “Jojo” Luy (USA Phone Number) 951 256 7152
 Other numbers: +63917 813 4168 +63917 527 4168 +63917 847 6595

 uy.c.jeane@gmail.com mrs.napoles@gmail.com tinapoles@gmail.com queenxtin@gmail.com niceonechoi@yahoo.com mrs.napoles@gmail.com phantomjim@icloud.com jeane.napoles@gmail.com cowboy12@gmail.com rluy@sbcglobal.net ronaldflim168@yahoo.com

 These are their residential addresses in the US and you can see an aerial view on Google Earth and Google Maps by putting the address on the search bar: - 900 West Olympic Boulevard LA, CA 90015-1338 - 32 Wedgewood Irvine CA 92620 - 2801 Main Street Apt. 259 Irvine CA 92614 - 6810 Edinburgh Road Corona CA 92880

 FROM Anonymous
 August 20, 2013 at 2:00 pm
 It has been a long and tiring ordeal for us to become Anonymous. Should Napoles escape Discovery or Shangrila amidst the heavy downpour, Filipinos should be asking Jun Pareno of Discovery Suites. Jun should know where they are hiding. Jun does all the hotel bookings and events of Janet including the once a year party of all her congressmen and senators at the top floor of the hotel. If you don’t locate Jun Pareno, then you should question Jejomar Binay, he also know where the Napoleses are. Their fraternity is strong and united, the Alpha Phi Omega and its junior arm, Scout Royal Brotherhood. They will die defending their brothers – even if their brods are the most wanted thieves in the country. If they want to die defending their brods, so be it and let the whole country decide. Let us not forget that Honasan is also brother in arms of Jaime Napoles at RAM. Ask Pareno and/or Binay – they both know the location of the whole family of Napoles. Lastly, Napoles’ business could have not survived without the members of the congress and senators who stole tax payers money.They are as guilty as Napoles. All of them deserve to die. Of course we want a peaceful protest in Luneta, let us not expect that there will be change in the following years or decades if this is how we fight thieves in power.

 We, as Anonymous individuals sacrificed a lot the past few weeks. We put the lives of our families in danger, our loved ones and our friends. They tried to locate us, but they have failed. It was a deadly game of hide and seek. We approached no one, only these blogs and the internet. We asked for help to nobody because no one can be trusted. And when we say NO ONE can be trusted, ALL of them cannot be trusted.

 We do not have powers to know everything. We only know few things, but the things we wrote here were all vital and served as a key to unlock the mystery of how graft and corruption works at the very core of our government that no one dared to explain in a public forum. If you dont find Napoles in Ortigas, we are not stopping you from going to your demonstration on the 26th. We might also be there, with the crowds, but you will never know that it is us because we don’t want recognition or fame or wealth. We just have the information to show the world that we have been deceived and robbed by our own money from the past decade and they deserve nothing less than death. No, not jail time. It should be death. Death to all of them.

 We are now going to give the public the email addresses, phone numbers and addresses of some members of the Napoles family. There are plenty of online hacktivist here, maybe it will be faster for them to hack their accounts and locate their iPhones. We do not have all the methods and ways to break into their accounts, but in a collective effort of our nation, we can break into these emails and EVERYTHING we need to know can be found here.

 These are their email accounts: uy.c.jeane@gmail.com mrs.napoles@gmail.com tinapoles@gmail.com queenxtin@gmail.com niceonechoi@yahoo.com mrs.napoles@gmail.com phantomjim@icloud.com jeane.napoles@gmail.com cowboy12@gmail.com rluy@sbcglobal.net ronaldflim168@yahoo.com

 All these emails are verified, valid and working addresses. You can exploit these emails by inviting them to have a chat with you, send them emails, reach out to them to surrender, track them by cracking their email passwords or, just simply tell them that they should f*ck their selves until they die.

 These are their Philippine office and main residential addresses: 635 San Isidro St. Ayala Alabang Muntinlupa 2502 discovery center 25 ADB Ave., Ortigas Center Pasig City South Garden Unit Pacific Plaza Towers Taguig

 These are their residential addresses in the US and you can see an aerial view on Google Earth and Google Maps by putting the address on the search bar: - 900 West Olympic Boulevard LA, CA 90015-1338 - 32 Wedgewood Irvine CA 92620 - 2801 Main Street Apt. 259 Irvine CA 92614 - 6810 Edinburgh Road Corona CA 92880

 These are the telephone numbers. You can try adding and saving their numbers on your mobile devices and if you have WhatsAPP, Viber, WeChat and LINE, some of the numbers listed here will automatically show if they are listed on the said messaging applications. That will give us a whole new flexibility to communicate with Janet et al. in a faster and efficient manner. (We wonder why DOJ and NBI has not thought of that):

 Janet Napoles +63917 846 8420 +63917 525 0034 +632 636 5388 (land phone) +632 687 4009 (land phone)

 Jaime “Jimmy” Napoles +63917 525 4168 +63917 832 7005

 James Lim Napoles +63917 526 4168

 John Lim +63920 952 5288 +63917 528 5288

 Jo Christine Napoles (USA Phone number) 714 886 3000

 Jeane Napoles (USA Phone Number) 714 878 7875 949 748 3635

 Reynaldo “Jojo” Luy (USA Phone Number) 951 256 7152

 Other numbers: +63917 813 4168 +63917 527 4168 +63917 847 6595

 Our jobs as Anonymous are now done. We have given so much, we almost lost our lives in the process. We also believe that if the DOJ and NBI is “truly” doing its job, we have surely done more legwork than them. Interestingly, many of you suggest that we and I, the Anonymous, should apprehend the Napoleses. If you haven’t seen or met their family yet, they are all physically fit, protected by a security team of former army personnel that always carry automatic sub machine guns and various calibers of pistols, both .9mm, .40 and .45 and, each family member also carries their own concealed firearm. Yes, Jeane Napoles, the one that had a lavish party in Beverly Hills also carries and shoots pistols and rifles. We cannot apprehend them alone even if we wanted to. Why don’t we inform law enforcement agencies? How can you trust an institution serving an arrest warrant only to announce it first in media before making an arrest? For these reasons, we leave the judgment call to the public – to all of you to decide.

 To some people who accuse us that everything we say are all false, then definitely they know more than us and they should prove us wrong and tell us what they truly know. We also deserve to know their own version of “truth”, we are also citizens of this country and that does not make our rights lesser than any of you. So if you think that we are lying, you can be Anonymous too and tell us everything you know. To everyone who keep on asking why dont we present ourselves together with our evidences? Simple.

 You do not need to see our materials and it does not matter anymore at this point. You want proof? Tumingin tayo sa paligid natin. May nagbago ba? Wala. Lugmok pa din tayong lahat sa kahirapan. At sila na nasa kongreso at senado ay lumalangoy sa pera at karangyaan. Sila ang ebidensya namin. At ang kahirapan ng Pilipinas ang produkto ng pagnanakaw nila.

 We support any protests and movements against organised theft. But keep in mind, with a very complex issue like this, it can never be resolved through peaceful means. You can never stop a number of thieves carrying guns and knives from stealing by staying peaceful and calmly telling them to stop. All of them are taking hundreds of millions of pesos EVERY week. They will kill anyone who will try to stop them. Our protest march would be like a piece of paper trying to stop whole rounds of bullets. And to whom are we going to ask for help? From the very people and institution who are stealing from us?

 Sa buwis na binayad mo sa gobyerno ngayong buwan na ito, gumaan at gumanda ba ang buhay mo bilang Pilipino? Ikaw lamang ang makakasagot niyan.


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Reply #80 on: Aug 22, 2013, 07:42 PM
^ yun oh!


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Reply #81 on: Aug 22, 2013, 08:12 PM
PDAF is basically a check and balance measure in implementing projects in which should be handle by the senators and congressman. Because the executive branch is implementing almost 80% percent of the total national budget, so for the purpose of helping in the implementation  especially in a fast track way Pork barrel is released. The purpose itself is good but the implementation and due to the greediness of our public officials it is now in vain. I will vote with its retention but there must be a law that will cater the proper disbursement of funds,on what specific project,cost, time frame of implementation and when its done a respective body will check the project in itself. In this way the project will be guarded from the very start until finish. Afterall its the responsibility of the voting public who entrust their votes to these crocodiles in the position who don't have other goal but for their welfare and not for the welfare of the public.


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Reply #82 on: Aug 23, 2013, 07:39 AM

9th whistle-blower vs Napoles surfaces
Witness claims she saw payoffs to lawmakers

By Nancy C. Carvajal
Philippine Daily Inquirer
12:02 am | Friday, August 23rd, 2013


The latest on the Janet Napoles scam saga:

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/472591/9th-whistle-blower-vs-napoles-surfaces


Read it and weep...







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Reply #83 on: Aug 23, 2013, 08:29 AM
Sen. Revilla himself verified pork barrel transaction signatures – COA


August 22, 2013 11:30pm



The Commission on Audit is perplexed why Sen. Ramon “Bong” Revilla has sought the help of a handwriting expert to determine the authenticity of the signatures on Revilla's pork barrel releases.



"Senator Revilla is saying now that it is fake? Pero nung humingi kami ng confirmation sa kanya, he confirmed the authenticity of the signatures of his representative,” said COA chairperson Grace Pulido Tan in a “24 Oras” report. “We have everything in writing.”



“Seriously,” she emphasized.



Revilla is one of the lawmakers implicated in the pork barrel scam in which Priority Development Assistance Funds were allegedly funneled to dubious or bogus Non-Government Organizations in exchange for hefty kickbacks.

But he has consistently denied any involvement in the scam, denied knowing the scam's alleged mastermind, and now denies that the signatures on his pork barrel releases are genuine.

According to a comprehensive COA report, Revilla sent P503.69 million of his pork barrel to eight questionable NGOs from 2007 to 2009.

Two of these NGOs were managed by the scam's whistleblower, Benhur Luy, who has accused businesswoman and now fugitive suspect Janet Lim-Napoles of being the ringleader of the alleged fraud.

"Kasi ang mga dokumento sa NGOs na namin nakuha. So ibinalik na namin sa kanila. Pinakita pa ho namin. Ito po ba ang pirma niya? Ganun po ang audit," Tan explained.

Revilla could not be reached for comment as of posting time, but he did, on Wednesday, release a statement through his legal counsel denying any irregularities in his pork-barrel releases.

According to the COA's latest report, the pork barrel scam, from 2007 to 2009, involved some P6.156-billion in pork barrel monies from close to 200 lawmakers, and 82 mostly bogus NGOs.

Around 10 of these NGOs were linked to Napoles, who has denied all accusations. Napoles has so far evaded a warrant of arrest issued by a Makati court for a serious illegal detention charge. — Marc Jayson Cayabyab/DVM, GMA News


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Reply #84 on: Aug 23, 2013, 11:03 AM
Baka akala ni Bong Revilla e teleserye itong nangyayari ngayun with regards to pork barrel scam at papalit -palit sya ng script.hehehe


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Reply #85 on: Aug 23, 2013, 11:09 AM
^^ HAHAHAHAHA


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Reply #86 on: Aug 23, 2013, 12:00 PM
maygadddddddd!!! sariling pirma mo hindi mo kilala?!@#$%  :D

I do suggest that senators (and congressmen) who are known to be "not-so-blessed" with decent (and better) intelligence should hire the best minds available to assist them in their key activities/transactions, para naman hindi sila mapasama at mapahiya.

Getting elected to the post is one thing, acting/performing the position is another thing.

 :watchuthink:


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Reply #87 on: Aug 23, 2013, 12:26 PM
retain the pork barrel fund but reduce the amount to only 50 Million for congressman and 100 Million for senator..restriction for scholarship, building school, medical assistance only..


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Reply #88 on: Aug 23, 2013, 01:05 PM
Mid-day live telecast from Malacanang: PDAF will be abolished. To be replaced by a yet to be crafted replacement with check and balance mechanism. No more temporary and "soft" projects.


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Reply #89 on: Aug 23, 2013, 01:18 PM
PNoy: Time to abolish the pork barrel.

MANILA - President Aquino on Friday said it is now time to abolish the priority development assistance funds (PDAF) or the pork barrel system in the aftermath of the alleged P10 billion pork barrel scam.

"Panahon na po para i-abolish ang PDAF," he said.

He said the Palace will craft a new mechanism to meet the needs of various sectors in a way that is transparent and fair. He said each sector will get a fair share of the national budget for health, scholarships, livelihoods and local infrastructure.

"Ngayon, bubuo tayo ng bagong mekanismo upang matugunan ang pangangailangan ng inyong mga mamamayan at sektor--sa paraang tapat, gamit ang tama at makatuwirang proseso, at nang may sapat na mga kalasag laban sa pang-aabuso at katiwalian," he said.

He said government funds will no longer be coursed to non-government organizations and government-owned and controlled corporations that were used in the pork barrel scam.

He said funding for consumable "soft" projects such as fertilizer, seeds, medical kits, false teeth and training materials will now be prohibited.
Aquino said the government will strictly enforce public bidding for various projects.
 
Senate President Franklin Drilon and House Speaker Sonny Belmonte were beside the President when he made the announcement.
 
The President made the announcement ahead of an anti-pork barrel rally on Monday. The movement, which started on social media, has gotten an overwhelming response from civil society groups.
 
In the press briefing, Aquino said he wants cases to be filed against officials linked to the P10 billion PDAF scam.
 
He also said he does not agree with Senate Minority Leader Juan Ponce Enrile's proposal to scrap all pork barrel allocations and lump sum allocations, saying some funds cannot be itemized.
 
"In principle maganda sana yun kaya lang kunwari calamity fund. Paano mo i-a-itemize at the beginning of the year yung paggagastusan ng calamity fund dahil wala pa yung bagyo, wala pa yung lindol, wala pa yung sakuna? Yung contingency fund, kaya nga tinawag na contingency dahil hindi pwedeng i-program yung pangyayari," he said.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/08/23/13/pnoy-time-abolish-pork-barrel


 


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