PMT Forum
How do you want to make money today?

Trading FXTN 20-20

aduyaphockun · 17 · 13408

aduyaphockun

  • Newbie
  • *
    • Posts: 6
    • Likes Received: +0/-0
on: Apr 11, 2013, 02:27 PM
how are fxtn traded in the secondary market?  are there sites where we could monitor it's performance?  how is fxtn 20-20 doing right now?
« Last Edit: Sep 08, 2013, 08:41 PM by FutureGizmo »


aduyaphockun

  • Newbie
  • *
    • Posts: 6
    • Likes Received: +0/-0
Reply #1 on: Apr 17, 2013, 08:56 PM
this must be a hard query.  no answer for quite a while. :yoohoo:


toymrs

  • Forum Tambay 100
  • ***
    • Posts: 123
    • Likes Received: +0/-0
Reply #2 on: May 04, 2013, 06:39 AM
If your referring to the new issue of  fxtn released last March, don't bother... Its coupon rate is much lower than the inflation rate.


jerics

  • Senior Member
  • **
    • Posts: 52
    • Likes Received: +0/-0
Reply #3 on: Sep 03, 2013, 10:47 AM
trading GS (government securities) is like trading the stock market.
yields should be low so that you get higher prices.. you can trade (buy or sell) it thru banks that are allowed by SEC to trade bonds for clients.


jerics

  • Senior Member
  • **
    • Posts: 52
    • Likes Received: +0/-0
Reply #4 on: Sep 03, 2013, 10:50 AM
by the way, good luck to those people who bought bonds this year..
yields are already low.

risk factors in the coming days,weeks & months
1.)US decision on QE3
2.)US debt ceiling
3.)Phil inflation
...


brians

  • Forum Tambay 100
  • ***
    • Posts: 148
    • Likes Received: +0/-0
Reply #5 on: Sep 08, 2013, 07:55 PM
how much is the coupon rate for fxtn 20-20? is that semi-annual coupon?


jerics

  • Senior Member
  • **
    • Posts: 52
    • Likes Received: +0/-0
Reply #6 on: Sep 10, 2013, 01:47 PM
FXTN 20-20
Coupon 3.625% (gross)
coupon payment semi-annual
current market
Maturity date 03/21/2033
ISIN PIBD2033C206
today's range 3.80%-4.25%YTM

Meaning: you'll be able to buy this at a discounted price today..
ex:
you'll buy Php100,000 face value,
you can buy it at Php 97,500

suggestion:
Buy GS or any other fixed income for diversification only IF NEEDED but if you're going to buy and hold for a long time, think twice.. or maybe thrice since we are all expecting interest rates to go up latest by next year.
...just a friendly advice...


guy17

  • Senior Member
  • **
    • Posts: 99
    • Likes Received: +0/-0
Reply #7 on: Nov 11, 2013, 01:42 PM
any update for this investment?


brians

  • Forum Tambay 100
  • ***
    • Posts: 148
    • Likes Received: +0/-0
Reply #8 on: Nov 26, 2013, 11:04 PM
20-20
SEMI-ANNUAL
19.34
3/21/2013 3/21/2033
96.822005
61
90.568867
3.9000 %
3.625 4.4750%


jerics

  • Senior Member
  • **
    • Posts: 52
    • Likes Received: +0/-0
Reply #9 on: Dec 12, 2013, 11:22 AM
i don't think YTM will reach coupon rate...or in price terms, hindi babalik sa original cost as compared to market price.

if bumili at Php100,000 face value, and bayad is Php100,000 (at par),

now price is 96 for example, YTM is more than 3.625%coupon rate..
so if you're going to sell your investment, Php96,000 makukuha mo instead of Php100,000 na ininvest mo.

for prices, you might want to check pdex.com.ph


guy17

  • Senior Member
  • **
    • Posts: 99
    • Likes Received: +0/-0
Reply #10 on: Jan 14, 2014, 01:46 PM
price now is 84 to 85.. darn!!! may pag asa pa kaya eto tumaas or break even lang? may kalikihan pa naman na invest ko hay...


jerics

  • Senior Member
  • **
    • Posts: 52
    • Likes Received: +0/-0
Reply #11 on: Jan 20, 2014, 11:21 AM
guy17,

i'm not optimistic about our fixed income market for the following reasons:

1.)inflation
2.)fed tapering (started USD10B) as announced
3.)interest rates and potential increase by 3rd quarter (some banks are looking at 2nd qtr)


if you're asking if tataas pa i think maybe may bounce but might prefer a sell on rally. pero this really depends if pano magisip ung isa tao. some might be happy with holding a bond earning 3.625% gross some naman buy for trading..


aduyaphockun

  • Newbie
  • *
    • Posts: 6
    • Likes Received: +0/-0
Reply #12 on: Jan 27, 2014, 04:08 PM
i guess i made a wrong choice on investing on fxtns.  so lesson learned.


toymrs

  • Forum Tambay 100
  • ***
    • Posts: 123
    • Likes Received: +0/-0
Reply #13 on: Feb 02, 2014, 06:21 AM
If you bought the bonds at a discount and you hold to maturity then you should be okay.

Lugi ka lang sa kita kung ang coupon rate ng nabili mong bonds ay mas mababa keysa inflation rate at prevailing interest rates ng mga bonds ngayon.


888guy

  • Newbie
  • *
    • Posts: 1
    • Likes Received: +0/-0
Reply #14 on: Feb 06, 2014, 11:54 PM
Hi ,
Got some fxtn last yr also and yields are low! Still cant understand the relationship of inflation and the decrease in face value. Hope someone would enlighten me on this so I can decide on what to do with my investment? Any site to check the trend of fxtn 20:20? Thanks for the advices


 


PMT Shoutbox

Refresh History
  • Post only questions or comments here. Advertisements NOT ALLOWED.
  • oragon: :applause:
    May 20, 2019, 03:53 PM
  • FutureGizmo: Thank you for reporting those spam posts, oragon! Spam posts now deleted.
    May 20, 2019, 01:59 PM
  • oragon: Admin kindly monitor some peps! posting and sharing inappropriate nude photos and website links
    May 20, 2019, 01:52 PM
  • @culinary10: Hello I am new here! Regarding sa bdo life insurance for 8 years, pwede pa kaya ma refund yung binayad ko na 50k last year? Gusto ko sana icancel kasi lack of financial na, last may 15 2018 po un nag start ako ng life insurance, pinili ko annually kaso etong may 15 2019 wala nako ma ipay so gusto ko sana icash out, may alam ba kayo kung pano marerefund?
    May 17, 2019, 07:56 PM
  • FutureGizmo: Hi Sonny, the posting issue is now resolved. Thanks for informing us! We're currently testing a new, mobile-ready theme so let us us know kung may problema pa sa Forum. :)
    Apr 04, 2019, 10:40 AM
  • sonny.wapak: Nakaka receive din ba kayo nito pag gawa ng new post? "Please try again. If you come back to this error screen, report the error to an administrator."
    Apr 03, 2019, 10:56 PM
  • leonine_zafiro: what product nun?
    Apr 01, 2019, 10:25 PM
  • dhondiex27: hi
    Mar 30, 2019, 10:55 PM
  • lusart: jayrob i agree 200%. hulog ng langit organico. legit na legit
    Mar 29, 2019, 09:08 AM
  • palemelch: Hi
    Mar 28, 2019, 04:08 PM
  • O.C.W._AK: Magandang Araw sa Lahat! Blessings! (",)
    Mar 28, 2019, 08:42 AM
  • thor15: hello everyone, newbie here
    Mar 25, 2019, 01:47 AM
  • captjaylo: present newbie here
    Mar 22, 2019, 10:06 AM
  • balboagilbert26: hello Guys .. Newbie here
    Mar 21, 2019, 10:55 PM
  • businesswoman2019: @jefsanity nag inquire na po ako pero di sila nagdidisclose. Yung branch po kasi na target ko, currently building pa.
    Mar 21, 2019, 04:27 PM
  • jefsanity: @businesswoman2019, much better inquire ka na lang sa admin nila.
    Mar 21, 2019, 01:51 PM
  • businesswoman2019: Hello! Any idea how much ang stall sa waltermart. 2m x 2m
    Mar 21, 2019, 08:28 AM
  • John Neil: Looking for an accredited iron foundry
    Mar 17, 2019, 03:19 PM
  • jayrob: Mark_Lee ung organico legit po yan..  Member din AQ..
    Mar 17, 2019, 12:57 AM
  • perlymelad: Hello po! Need advice, why my new MLM leaders failing?
    Mar 14, 2019, 08:51 PM
  • perlymelad: Present
    Mar 12, 2019, 07:53 PM
  • kennethmauricio: Hi saan po dito pwede mag post ng for sale properties?
    Mar 11, 2019, 07:58 PM
  • jefsanity: @mark_lee isipin mo anu passion mo at skills mo...
    Mar 11, 2019, 06:52 PM
  • sniperaj09: BAGO LANG
    Mar 10, 2019, 11:16 AM
  • mark_Lee: magandang investnent ngayon sa 30k suggest naman keo mga boss
    Mar 10, 2019, 03:07 AM
  • perlymelad: E-BOOK PO SIR @JEFSANITY
    Mar 09, 2019, 05:40 PM
  • perlymelad: @jefsanity Good Morning Po
    Mar 09, 2019, 05:39 PM
  • perlymelad: Good Day everyone
    Mar 04, 2019, 06:24 PM
  • jefsanity: anu ang small business na yan?
    Feb 28, 2019, 07:40 PM
  • perlymelad: Good Day Everyone
    Feb 28, 2019, 03:31 PM
  • perlymelad: Hello everyone, CAN ANYONE HELP ME SUGGEST ANY SIDE TOPIC  / PROBLEM OF  STARTING SMALL BUSINESS?
    Feb 28, 2019, 06:58 AM
  • perlymelad: Present, 1st time po
    Feb 25, 2019, 06:17 PM
  • jd2281: newbie po
    Feb 25, 2019, 12:26 PM
  • ejllantino: present... 1st time
    Feb 24, 2019, 07:14 PM
  • rheiel: present. first time
    Feb 24, 2019, 11:04 AM
  • MELVIE: thanks po
    Feb 24, 2019, 12:50 AM
  • steph123: hello po, ask lang po, ilang months po ba ang hihintayin after mo ma process ang mga documents para maitama ang mali sa NSO?
    Feb 11, 2019, 03:13 PM
  • Deborah: newbie here.thanks
    Feb 08, 2019, 02:17 PM
  • marj0503: hello im newbie here
    Jan 31, 2019, 10:53 AM
  • yan24: any one here planning to start a tesda skill training center
    Jan 26, 2019, 12:07 PM
  • manzjon: Forex trading forum
    Jan 25, 2019, 02:16 PM
  • Lizette Ramos: Pwede po bang patulong... Maganda po ba ang gasul retailing business?
    Jan 24, 2019, 09:14 PM
  • Imnobody: Hi sino naghahanap ng casino financer dito?
    Jan 16, 2019, 09:59 PM
  • Odlanyer22: Good day!
    Jan 16, 2019, 09:55 PM
  • maryen: at kung sakaling may somobra sa food na nailuto.. dapat po bang bayaran ng client un .. or ipapa take mo na sakanila?...
    Jan 16, 2019, 03:52 PM
  • maryen: HI! GOOD DAY! newbiz lang po... question lang po regarding sa catering.. if may 50pax po ako dapat lang po ba na sakto ang serving ng food?
    Jan 16, 2019, 03:50 PM
  • mark_Lee: cno na nag organico dito scam po ba yun or legit
    Jan 09, 2019, 03:04 AM
  • kuray08: Have a Prosperous New Year to all..
    Jan 06, 2019, 09:27 PM
  • ethan: Sino po may auto supply business dito? How profitable po ba ito in terms of monthly income? Lalo na kung meron na one or two na competition.
    Jan 04, 2019, 11:34 AM
  • Niel Jhacoubs: HAPPY NEW YEAR!
    Jan 02, 2019, 04:37 PM