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on: Jan 09, 2012, 02:17 PM
BFX,

My friend that i previously mentioned to u having an interest in letting other trader manage his funds for him...

he has a few questions...

and for the benefit of all those who want to invest or are simply curious about BFX's managed PAMM account, please feel free to chime in... :D

BFX my friend, we are speaking of a potential 6-digit account here (my fiend's fund)...so my advice to you:

"Choose your words wisely, for they may be your last" King Leonidas (300, The Movie)  :D :D haha

and I quote my friend:


1.   Pwede ba magpakita ng 6mos to 1yr na performance?

2.   Kung kaya nya magproduce ng 110% profit in 10 days and ginagawa nya na yan for 6 years, magkano na kinita nya sa trading?

3.   E di mas mayaman pa cya kay Henry Sy o kahit si Donald Trump?  Dahil kung icocompound mo ung capital for 6yrs at 110% na kita sa loob ng 10 araw e tapos na, cyan a ang pinakamayaman na tao sa buong mundo.

4.   Bakit kailangan pa nya mag solicit ng $25 sa ibang tao kung kaya naman nya doblehin capital nya in 10days?  Kahit magsimula cya w/ $10 e sobrang laki na ito after madoble ng ilang beses.

5.   Bakit hindi sa mga kilalang banks/brokers cya mag open ng account?

6.   Bakit di nya maexplain ng maayos yung pamamaraan nya ng pagtratrade? Maiintindihan naman natin kung hindi pwede detalyadong explanation pero wag naman “Advanced Physics and Mathematical Calculation” e lahat naman ng bagay may physics and math explanation.


take ur time to answer his questions....and pls no generalized,all-encompassing shotgun $#W%#$%$ answer...hahaha...kc ako mahihirapan ako magexplain sa kanya...hahaha :hihi:
« Last Edit: Jan 09, 2012, 02:29 PM by SAGAD »


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Reply #1 on: Jan 09, 2012, 02:32 PM
^padagdag na rin yung hanging question ko sa kabilang thread na hindi pa nasasagot:
sir BFx, sorry for the ignorant question.. ano yung PAMM account? sa ngayon, ilang accounts ang minamanage nyo, anong terms nung management agreement (fees, hatian or commission, etc; kung wala, then "what's in it for you?")..

paki-explain naman ung mechanics nyo jan sa instaforex, if possible, in tagalog para madaling intindihin. bobo ako s english.  salamat.

@BFX, Since my questions are already posted since 07 Jan, I don’t see the need for me to PM you sir, unless I have further questions, na hindi naman din susulpot hanggat hindi pa klaro yang mga nauna kong mga tanong. Salamat sir.
« Last Edit: Jan 09, 2012, 02:34 PM by vicces »


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Reply #2 on: Jan 09, 2012, 02:47 PM
Sir SAGAD..

Thank you very much for excellent questions.... much better to monitor first my 6months live performance FROM JANUARY 2012 to JUNE 2012 before entering any 6digits Capital.. rather than showing old performances.. so, you can decide by JULY 2012 if you want to be a 6digits investor or not..

Regarding with the $25 Capital, as you monitor my Live Trades.. you are FREE to INVEST anytime you want..

BUT's & IF only IF's
"If they want just monitoring..It's GOOD & OK",  "but if they want to be a part of it.. MUCH BETTER"...

Giving or showing my complete details of my strategy, sorry I can NOT SHOW IT... and even my old performances, sorry I can NOT GRANT your Request...

And a BIG QUESTION is: HOW MUCH MY $23.55 IN JULY 2012???? You can project it now...

Always remember, wala mayaman na tao magpapakita ng kanyang kayaman.. maliban na lang kung dati na syang mayaman at kilala... like Henry Sy..

My mission & vission here is to help others to make money from SMALL AMOUNT into BIG AMOUNT...

Everyone must converge here in this topic to monitor my LIVE TRADES..

Sir SAGAD, please post also my LIVE TRADES LINK and make monitoring form my DAILY GAINS... so that my reply here will not tend to advertising replies...(Ma-violation pa ako jejeje)

Thank you again Sir SAGAD to have a Topic like this...


Respectfully yours,
BFXGeneralConsultant


Post Merge: Jan 09, 2012, 02:59 PM
^padagdag na rin yung hanging question ko sa kabilang thread na hindi pa nasasagot:
@BFX, Since my questions are already posted since 07 Jan, I don’t see the need for me to PM you sir, unless I have further questions, na hindi naman din susulpot hanggat hindi pa klaro yang mga nauna kong mga tanong. Salamat sir.

Sir VICCES... Greetings..
Napakaganda question mo.. ito yung condition between FOREX TRADER & FOREX INVESTOR at ang namamagitan sa dalawa ay ang BROKER..
Ang FOREX TRADER ang taga-trade ng pera sa Forex
Ang FOREX INVESTOR naman ang namumuhunan..
Ang hatian/shares ay naka set ng 60%trader-40%investors profits from $25 puhunan..
Ang hatian/shares ay naka set ng 50%trader-50%investors profits from $2,500 puhunan...
Ang hatian/shares ay naka set ng 45%traders-55%investors profits from $250,000 puhunan..
At ang hatian na yan ay ginagarantyahan ng BROKER...

Respectfully yours,
BFXGeneralConsultant
« Last Edit: Jan 09, 2012, 03:53 PM by BFXGeneralConsultant »


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Reply #3 on: Jan 09, 2012, 03:37 PM
naku BFX,  :wall:

Paki address na lng ung questions number by number pls...mukhang mahirap iexplain ung answer mo above...haha

as I also advocate, it's not really proper to ask for somebody else's trading account... :watchuthink:

but maybe u can show us a record of ur trades? u can block/erase the amoount of money...just show the trade results in pips... :applause:

from there we can "mathematically" reverse engineer ur trading performance

for me, i will then be able to show my friend the maximum drawdown, sharpe ratio, average gains (in pips since u won't show the amoount right?) and average losses, maximum consecutive wins, max consecutive losses, peak and valley of the account...

u know...the basic stuff that we traders should know , analyze and monitor to enhance our performance and hopefully show our potential investors our trading performance and what they can expect if they invest in us... :watchuthink:

c'mon, don't be so humble... :yehey:

don't show the amount, just the performance...  :peace:

looking forward to a more detailed response hehe
« Last Edit: Jan 09, 2012, 03:40 PM by SAGAD »


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Reply #4 on: Jan 09, 2012, 03:45 PM
naku BFX,  :wall:

Paki address na lng ung questions number by number pls...mukhang mahirap iexplain ung answer mo above...haha

as I also advocate, it's not really proper to ask for somebody else's trading account... :watchuthink:

but maybe u can show us a record of ur trades? u can block/erase the amoount of money...just show the trade results in pips... :applause:

from there we can "mathematically" reverse engineer ur trading performance

for me, i will then be able to show my friend the maximum drawdown, sharpe ratio, average gains (in pips since u won't show the amoount right?) and average losses, maximum consecutive wins, max consecutive losses, peak and valley of the account...

u know...the basic stuff that we traders should know , analyze and monitor to enhance our performance and hopefully show our potential investors our trading performance and what they can expect if they invest in us... :watchuthink:

c'mon, don't be so humble... :yehey:

don't show the amount, just the performance...  :peace:

looking forward to a more detailed response hehe

Sir SAGAD..

Editing some screen shoots is NOT GOOD from showing, cover the name, amount etc... better NOT TO SHOW ANYTHING... hence, sorry... I will not show you any old performances..

Showing a LIVE TRADES with SMALL Amount much better.. "SMALL AMOUNT GROWS TO BIG AMOUNTS"

Feel free to post here my widget.. I know you know it...so that others members may see it...

Respectfully yours,
BFXGeneralConsultant
« Last Edit: Jan 09, 2012, 03:51 PM by BFXGeneralConsultant »


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Reply #5 on: Jan 09, 2012, 03:51 PM
Ang FOREX TRADER ang taga-trade ng pera sa Forex
Ang FOREX INVESTOR naman ang namumuhunan..
Ang hatian/shares ay naka set ng 60%trader-40%investors from $25 puhunan..
Ang hatian/shares ay naka set ng 50%trader-50%investors from $2,500 puhunan...
Ang hatian/shares ay naka set ng 45%traders-55%investors from $250,000 puhunan..
At ang hatian na yan ay ginagarantyahan ng BROKER...

^there you go!
So the hatian will be based on the amount invested, REGARDLESS kung madurog yung account due to trade losses. Hindi base sa profits/gains ang commission ng trader (meaning, pag $10 ang kinita from winning trades, yan ang basis nung 60% share ng trader)? Ung trader may kita whether lumaki or lumiit yung account?

from the initial investment lang ba yan (one-time commission) or twing magpapasok ng pera/investment yung investor may share yung trader?

Pero sabi mo pwedeng ung investor mismo ang magtrade nung account? May share ka pa rin ba kung sya magttrade?

Kung may share ka pa rin, ano yun, bilang trader or referrer?

bakit gusto mo maliit lang muna iinvest ($25), kasi 60% ang share ng trader dun? pero mas malaki naman di hamak ang 45% ng $250k kesa sa 60% ng $25?

thanks ulit sa paglilinaw BFX.
« Last Edit: Jan 09, 2012, 03:53 PM by vicces »


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Reply #6 on: Jan 09, 2012, 03:52 PM
^there you go!
So the hatian will be based on the amount invested, REGARDLESS kung madurog yung account due to trade losses. Hindi base sa profits/gains ang commission ng trader (meaning, pag $10 ang kinita from winning trades, yan ang basis nung 25% share ng trader)? Ung trader may kita whether lumaki or lumiit yung account?

from the initial investment lang ba yan (one-time commission) or twing magpapasok ng pera/investment yung investor may share yung trader?

Pero sabi mo pwedeng ung investor mismo ang magtrade nung account? May share ka pa rin ba kung sya magttrade?

Kung may share ka pa rin, ano yun, bilang trader or referrer?

thanks ulit sa paglilinaw BFX.

Sorry, my mali pala.. edit ko..

I mean shares sa profit hindi sa puhunan.. like these:

Ang hatian/shares ay naka set ng 60%trader-40%investors profits from $25 puhunan..
Ang hatian/shares ay naka set ng 50%trader-50%investors profits from $2,500 puhunan...
Ang hatian/shares ay naka set ng 45%traders-55%investors profits from $250,000 puhunan..
« Last Edit: Jan 09, 2012, 03:54 PM by BFXGeneralConsultant »


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Reply #7 on: Jan 09, 2012, 03:54 PM
inedit ko din ung akin, hehe, bilis mo sumagot... :cool:


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Reply #8 on: Jan 09, 2012, 03:56 PM
inedit ko din ung akin, hehe, bilis mo sumagot... :cool:

sorry medyo nahilo ako hehehe.. ang pinag uusapan na shares ay sa profits..
halimbawa: kung wala profits, wala ako share/commission
« Last Edit: Jan 09, 2012, 03:58 PM by BFXGeneralConsultant »


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Reply #9 on: Jan 09, 2012, 04:01 PM
ah, ok...

may ganyang "arrangement" na pala sa forex ngayon...  :watchuthink:

so kung ang $25 madoble mo, $15 ang mapupunta sayo as trader (60%), $10 sa investor...

twing kelan ang hatian?

kung kami mismo magtrade, pano yang sharing?



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Reply #10 on: Jan 09, 2012, 04:03 PM
ok then, suit urself...

if that's how u want it... :cool2:

let's just wait for ur trades to unfold...for us to be able to assess everything...

let's give it 6 months...

so until then....

though i still can't comprehend the following:

skewed Risk:Reward ratio 5:1 ??
3 pip stop loss on a 1.2-2pip spread ??
35% position sizing ??


my apologies to BFX, :hihi: i'm just being inquisitve since we are all students of the market thus my undying thirst for knowledge... :watchuthink:

may they be grounded on "Advanced Physics", "Mathematical Calculations", alignment of the stars, or even the mating habits of chimpanzees from the amazon jungle...  :D

as long as it has something to do w/ trading, i'm interested... :watchuthink:

that's it, i'm done...


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Reply #11 on: Jan 09, 2012, 04:06 PM
ok then, suit urself...

if that's how u want it... :cool2:

let's just wait for ur trades to unfold...for us to be able to assess everything...

let's give it 6 months...

so until then....

though i still can't comprehend the following:

skewed Risk:Reward ratio 5:1 ??
3 pip stop loss on a 1.2-2pip spread ??
35% position sizing ??


my apologies to BFX, :hihi: i'm just being inquisitve since we are all students of the market thus my undying thirst for knowledge... :watchuthink:

may they be grounded on "Advanced Physics", "Mathematical Calculations", alignment of the stars, or even the mating habits of chimpanzees from the amazon jungle...  :D

as long as it has something to do w/ trading, i'm interested... :watchuthink:

that's it, i'm done...

Sir SAGAD..

A miilion of thanks.. this is a GOOD topic you have made for BFXGeneralConsultant...

Respectfully yours,
BFXGeneralConsultant

Post Merge: Jan 09, 2012, 04:11 PM
ah, ok...

may ganyang "arrangement" na pala sa forex ngayon...  :watchuthink:

so kung ang $25 madoble mo, $15 ang mapupunta sayo as trader (60%), $10 sa investor...

twing kelan ang hatian?

kung kami mismo magtrade, pano yang sharing?



Every entry ang sharing.. halimbawa, nag enter ka ng $25 amount sa Link ko.. hindi mo magagalaw yung $25 amount within 30days as I set in PAMM.. yung other amount lang sa Balance mo pwd mo galawin for trading.. kung yung sarili mong balance, ikaw nagtratrade, wala ako commission doon.. yun lang ipinasok mo na amount pwd ko galawin for trading.. pero hindi ko mawiwithdraw pera mo...

pwede mo search online ano ang PAMM FOREX, at paano ang system nito, or pano mag work.. para lalo pa madagdagan idea mo..

ito link from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percent_allocation_management_module

pwede rin dito para may idea ka;
http://forex-pamm.com/faq.php
« Last Edit: Jan 09, 2012, 04:13 PM by BFXGeneralConsultant »


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Reply #12 on: Jan 09, 2012, 04:13 PM
Editing some screen shoots is NOT GOOD from showing, cover the name, amount etc... better NOT TO SHOW ANYTHING... hence, sorry... I will not show you any old performances..
ok lang ang edited, wag lang ang photoshopped  :hihi:

if i post here a screenshot of my best 1-month performance, will u post yours?
usapang lalake.
palabra de honor

ano say mo?

gusto ko rin sana makita yung kay Sagad, kung papayag sya. para threesome tayo  :D


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Reply #13 on: Jan 09, 2012, 04:18 PM
ok lang ang edited, wag lang ang photoshopped  :hihi:

if i post here a screenshot of my best 1-month performance, will u post yours?
usapang lalake.
palabra de honor

ano say mo?

gusto ko rin sana makita yung kay Sagad, kung papayag sya. para threesome tayo  :D


Im still NOT SHOWING... Sir FE.. Sorry... much better to monitor na lang on-going live traders ko kung pano ko gawin na BIG AMOUNTS ang $23.5..

SORRY PO Sir FE


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Reply #14 on: Jan 09, 2012, 04:19 PM
^^thanks BFX... sige tignan ko yan...

Post Merge: Jan 09, 2012, 04:21 PM
btw, BFX, ilan na so far accounts na managed mo? di ka ba ma-overwhelm kung bahain ka ng investors simula ngayon? :hihi:
« Last Edit: Jan 09, 2012, 04:21 PM by vicces »


 


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