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I am sure like me there was alot of you who had been victimize this guy in his network ponzi company so-called.

Beware of transacting on this guy.


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ano na naman to?
d ka ba nakikisakay lang sa mga current issues dito sa PMT?

may pruweba ka ba? details kung totoong na-scam ka mismo....


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I am sure like me there was alot of you who had been victimize this guy in his network ponzi company so-called.

Beware of transacting on this guy.

What a lame observation, for me, the only people who says that a network marketing scheme is a scam are those people who doesn't try anything new at all.

What are the provident proofs, that you really experienced this kind of acts?

Kasi I've read Ponzi's story, and for me his idea can help a lot of people change their lives, the fact is, we people doesn't how to use our money.
:peace:


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Need proof?

I paid an amount of $777 in his MLM company of a promised made by him to me that he will make it sure that it will earn. Up until now for 2 ears already have not receive any cent from him nor any word.

What a lier just to make money.


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^ Sir ekimonk,
2 YEARS??
anong consummable products kapalit ng $777?
do u have screenshot of your official receipt?
ito ba yung Clixster?

can u explain the compensation plan?
maghahanap pa lang ako ng info/videos tungkol dito.

pwede magrequest? mas ok kung magTagalog/Filipino ka na lang.
salamat Sir


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talagang paepal itong si ekimonktoo a.  for your information kasama din ako sa co. na sinasabi mo and kung trinabaho mo yung networking mo, kumita ka din sana doon. hindi investment ang mlm na pag nagjoin ka na kahit wala kang gagawin, kikita ka. may trabaho yun and question kung may ginawa ka ba? ang daming natulungang tao ni bossing kasi libre ang trainings and workshops nya, nagpunta ka ba? nagkita na ba tayo sa whiteplains noon?

for what i heard, bc sya ngayun sa mindanao office, ganun sya magtrabaho, hands on. sya mismo pumupunta sa team nya. nung time namin sa whiteplains, di na umuuwi yun kadalasan supporting the group, nakita ka ba namin don. sa bibig mo pa lang halatang negative lahat ng laman ng utak mo kaya lahat ng issue gusto mo sampayan, attitude talaga ang difference ng successful sa kulang sa pansin. lol


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talagang paepal itong si ekimonktoo a.  for your information kasama din ako sa co. na sinasabi mo and kung trinabaho mo yung networking mo, kumita ka din sana doon. hindi investment ang mlm na pag nagjoin ka na kahit wala kang gagawin, kikita ka. may trabaho yun and question kung may ginawa ka ba? ang daming natulungang tao ni bossing kasi libre ang trainings and workshops nya, nagpunta ka ba? nagkita na ba tayo sa whiteplains noon?

for what i heard, bc sya ngayun sa mindanao office, ganun sya magtrabaho, hands on. sya mismo pumupunta sa team nya. nung time namin sa whiteplains, di na umuuwi yun kadalasan supporting the group, nakita ka ba namin don. sa bibig mo pa lang halatang negative lahat ng laman ng utak mo kaya lahat ng issue gusto mo sampayan, attitude talaga ang difference ng successful sa kulang sa pansin. lol

sorry but that was not the explanation of him to me. Otherwise ,I would not shell out my hard earned money to his mlm.

With regards to the product or whatsoever anything coming from him, I receive nothing.

But a bunch of promises


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masterant,
tutal online ka, pakiexplain mo samin yung marketing plan, company info.
wag mo sabihing mahirap magexplain, magkita na lang tayo or manood na lang ako ng video (manonood ako mamya).
gusto ko mismo marinig sa isang member kung ano meron sa kumpanya nyo, at kung legal o hindi.

btw, san nga pala sa whiteplains yan? anong street? sa loob o sa labas?
ano real name ni CondoInvestor? sino ang founders ng Clixster? bakit walang picture ng founders sa mga website nyo? may nakita ko pictures ng iilang members, pero ang liit ng pictures nila,
natural lang sa isang 'leader' na gawin yung mga ginawa nya. ganyan talaga pag nagbi-build ng network. hindi yun surprising or extraordinary sa MLM.

salamat
« Last Edit: Nov 02, 2011, 09:12 PM by ferrariEverest »


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condoinvestor is planning to setup his own network marketing company with a pmt member here who supplies uno. big time din yata. he's doing that para maiwasan na yung mga company na ginagamit lang ang mga networker. sa pagkakaalam ko may pine-perfect syang complan and waiting for the right timing.

while negative people are busy spreading gossips, he's working hard meeting top earners of different mlm industries asking for opinions. kilala si bossing sa industry and kahit baguhan pag nakasama sya, tinuturuan nya how to study different business ideas some of it, mula rin sa mga friends nya here sa pmt.  katunayan, i just got my p300k investment with him, one investor here p500k and another p300k. every 2nd of the month ako mag-earn from our biz ventures. its easy to get in touch with him, nasa robinsons galleria ang office nya, inaabot sya dun till 2am, sometimes even 4am.


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masterant,
u are evading my questions & aggrandizing him thru his other endeavors.
simula 2001, wala pa ata akong naencounter na networker from a good, reputable, & legit MLM company na negative sumagot, or umiiwas sumagot sa tanong pag may nagtatanong. welcome sa kanila ang mga tanong, regardless if negative or positive.

we are not talking about CI's other business ventures. this thread is about the "MLM" he is involved in.
kung may baho ang isang tao, hindi mo matatakpan yan sa pamamagitan ng pagpapabango sa ibang activities nya.
kung reputable ang isang businessman, he should be clean in any venture he participates in.

mukhang malaki ang issue mo sa reading comprehension.

bat kailangan mo magbanggit ng kinita mo kuno?
talk is cheap. madali magsalita.
kung totoo man yan, it's none of our business, so bakit ka nagpapapansin na parang si Pacquiao?

bat kailangan banggitin mo ang UNO.
sa tingin mo ba legit & reputable ang UNO & its founders/members??
u seem to be opening a can of worms inside a bigger can of worms.

wag ka magpalusot na may negative people dito. matagal ko na naririnig yan, networker rin ako. pupusta ako na halos lahat ng tinuro or narinig nyo sa seminar nyo ay galing sa mga naunang reputable MLMs.
hindi lahat ng nagbabasa dito ay negative, siguro naman alam mo yan.

kung legal ang company nyo, ipresent mo dito. answer my questions. this is your chance.
lalo na legality ng company nyo ang topic ng thread na ito.
kung legal ang company nyo, maliit na lubak lang itong thread na ito.

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ano laman nun?
ano laman nung $148 package nyo? magkano Peso conversion nyo nun?
ayan a... binigyan na kita ng paguusapan , parang ayaw mo mangrecruit e :hihi:
« Last Edit: Nov 02, 2011, 09:50 PM by ferrariEverest »


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masterant,
u are evading my questions & aggrandizing him in his other endeavors.
simula 2001, wala pa ata akong naencounter na networker from a good, reputable, & legit MLM company na negative sumagot, or umiiwas sumagot sa tanong pag may nagtatanong. welcome sa kanila ang mga tanong, regardless if negative or positive.

we are not talking about CI's other business ventures. this thread is about the "MLM" he is involved in.
kung may baho ang isang tao, hindi mo matatakpan yan sa pamamagitan ng pagpapabango sa ibang activities nya.
kung reputable ang isang businessman, he should be clean in any venture he participates in.

mukhang malaki ang issue mo sa reading comprehension.

bat kailangan mo magbanggit ng kinita mo kuno?
talk is cheap. madali magsalita.
kung totoo man yan, it's none of our business, so bakit ka nagpapapansin na parang si Pacquiao?

bat kailangan banggitin mo ang UNO.
sa tingin mo ba legit & reputable ang UNO & its founders/members??
u seem to be opening a can of worms inside a bigger can of worms.

wag ka magpalusot na may negative people dito. matagal ko na naririnig yan, networker rin ako. pupusta ako na halos lahat ng tinuro or narinig nyo sa seminar nyo ay galing sa mga naunang reputable MLMs.
hindi lahat ng nagbabasa dito ay negative, siguro naman alam mo yan.

kung legal ang company nyo, ipresent mo dito. answer my questions. this is your chance.
lalo na legality ng company nyo ang topic ng thread na ito.
kung legal ang company nyo, maliit na lubak lang itong thread na ito.

I second the motion.

No offense to masterant & condoinvestor. I am very new in this site. I am a property investor (small time lang) and I registered here to learn and get ideas. Since I am focused on properties, I read a lot of posts by condoinvestor, and I was impressed with the numbers that he presented. I wanted to learn how he was doing it since I couldn't even do half of what he makes. Yun lang, very vague ang mga post nya about his "business" so I didn't pursue it coz I kinda had a feeling it was MLM.


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I second the motion.

No offense to masterant & condoinvestor. I am very new in this site. I am a property investor (small time lang) and I registered here to learn and get ideas. Since I am focused on properties, I read a lot of posts by condoinvestor, and I was impressed with the numbers that he presented. I wanted to learn how he was doing it since I couldn't even do half of what he makes. Yun lang, very vague ang mga post nya about his "business" so I didn't pursue it coz I kinda had a feeling it was MLM.

Ako rin eh about sa rental property, I have a fully paid studio condo that I am renting out fully furnished but I only net around 9.6% p.a very interesting how he is able to make those numbers.


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^ it's either a real business secret or bloated lang yung impressive figures na sinabi nya.


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I think ekimonktoo is pertaining to his investment to Lgn prosperity. Below is the thread about it

http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=29196.0


I was also invited to join here 2 years ago. But not $777 I think around 270 or equivalent to 16k+, Ym Lang Kami nagchat, I wasn't into mlm as I told him, but was told that I won't have to do anything since siya na bahala sa positioning, that a lot of pmt members are planning to join, that He will help each & everyone from Pmt to earn from it. I wasn't told to attend any meeting or seminars, wait Lang daw ako. Alam ko maraming nagjoin dito, those I remembered are sirzap, tops, rhipolito & others I can't quite remember. I got convince to join & I remember depositing the money to a bdo or bpi account. After nun wala na me balita about it.

Siguro after a month upon investing, I chanced up sa YM with CI & kinamusta ko investment. May inaayos pa something or someone dun sa upline niya sa abroad. That was the last time I heard anything about it.

I'm not sure if it didn't work out or the mlm group got resolved. But I believed everyone who invested deserve an explaination as to what happened. Personally, I find it odd when I found out He is again encouraging people here to join another mlm investment while some still doesn't know what happened to their previous investments. At the back of my mind, not very professional at all.

I'm not questioning the reputation or trustworthiness of CI. I just need a concrete explanation as to what happened to our investments? Though the amount investment is puny compared to what I've invested with others. I think for all concerned, we deserve or demand an explanation.

Sa akin Lang, bago ka pa mag-offer na Kung ano ano. Ano nangyari sa mga pinangakuan mo na kikita sa Lgn? I think this is a great opportunity for him to settle this issue once & for all. This is long overdue & I bet Hindi alng ako ang nag-aantay ng kasagutan dito.


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^ Sir Bp22estafa,
kung hindi ka pa magsasalita d namin malalaman yung tungkol jan. thank you for sharing.

kay CondoInvestor rin ba yung Lgn?
baka magkaibang issue yung sayo at kay ekimonk?
aling company yung sinalihan mo na $270/P16k?

dumadami na yung tanong ko.
1. bakit dinededma ni Condoinvestor mga tanong ko dati, sa sarili nyang thread, kung saan active siya magpost? (particularly yung tanong ko kung ano name ng MLM company nya)
1a. bakit dinedma nya dati yung private message ko sa kanya?
2. bakit hindi na nya pinopost yung Yahoo Messenger ID nya, gaya nung dati?
3. bakit dinedma rin ako ni masterant dito habang online siya at nakapag post ng 3 beses? hindi ganyan ang totoong legit, matino &/or reliable networker.

yung mga ibang may alam/experience pa jan, Please share your thoughts with us. ( sirzap, tops, rhipolito were mentioned. meron pa bang iba?)

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im currently checking out yung thread na binanggit ni Bp22estafa sa itaas. wow.
araw ng patay, spooky talaga.

... nasa robinsons galleria ang office nya, inaabot sya dun till 2am, sometimes even 4am.
btw, masterant, nakalimutan ko sabihin.
d porke may office sa Robinson Galleria ay ok na ok or legit na ang isang business/kumpanya.
may MLM/potential pyramid dati na may office dun.may firsthand experience ako nyan. sa pagkakaalam ko wala na yung office nila dun matagal na.

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let's play a detective game....
Honestly I become part of Clixster because of a good offer from the person who recruited me but not the product and comp plan...The worth of the product is less than 50%(in REALITY because they put the price of product in HYPE imagine a light bulb worth Php4++ did they put gold or silver in that bulb? hihi...=) )

PYRAMIDING SCAM ALERT!

motmot, marami naman nag o-offer ng free cash flow games dyan.
Just note lang na some use it as their marketing strategy.
may punto si Sir Dos
Picture po ng Cashflow 101 Workshop Last Sunday. Totally Free po yan.


Free game pero saan ang venue ? ? ? check the 2 pictures above to get clues.

ang title ng thread ay "Free Cashflow Game - Sept 11, 2010(Sat) 11am @ Gloria Jeans Galleria!" clever, permanent title
im sure hindi na sa gloria jeans yung 2 pictures above.



malamig, umaambon ambon, holiday , araw ng patay, kaya masarap magbasabasa at maghalukay
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 12:13 AM by ferrariEverest »


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Investee turned Scammer typical process:
1.soliciting investments by presenting business plan
2. promise certain rate
3. fulfill obligation by crediting the interest rate promised
4. after a while,investor capital gone.....

Typical Networker and network process:
1.soliciting investments by presenting business plan
2. promise returns
3. fulfill obligation by initial help
4. investor (downline) having difficulty marketing (finding their downline)....
5. after a while, investor capital gone.....

So, may legit excuse ang networker, which is step number 4, which is di ka nagtrabaho, so natural na wala ka nang returns.

But, if the networker promises you dont have to work and you will still earn, then step 4 is eliminated. Then walang pinagkaiba yun process ng Networker sa Sumablay turned Scammer typical process.


So if based on Bp22estafa's post:

I was also invited to join here 2 years ago. But not $777 I think around 270 or equivalent to 16k+, Ym Lang Kami nagchat, I wasn't into mlm as I told him, but was told that I won't have to do anything since siya na bahala sa positioning, that a lot of pmt members are planning to join, that He will help each & everyone from Pmt to earn from it. I wasn't told to attend any meeting or seminars, wait Lang daw ako.
...then Condoinvestor can be considered as a networker scammer.

Btw, "help each and everyone earn from it" is a very fine line....can mean guranteed earn, can mean i just help.....
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 12:41 AM by GoodSteward »


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Investee turned Scammer typical process:

Typical Networker and network process:
1.soliciting investments by presenting business plan
2. promise returns
3. fulfill obligation by initial help
4. investor (downline) having difficulty marketing (finding their downline)....
5. after a while, investor capital gone.....

So, may legit excuse ang networker, which is step number 4, which is di ka nagtrabaho, so natural na wala ka nang returns...
good post...
but not necessarily may legit excuse.

we have to mention na may legal at illegal MLM.
base sa sinabi ni Bp22estafa & george88, Pyramiding ang LGN &/or Clixster.
sa totoo & legal na MLM, may consummable, saleable at fair-priced products na kapalit ang entry fee/investment, so hindi masasayang ang capital, whether or not magbenta/magnetwork yung sasali.

since umaasa ang Pyramiding sa recruitment para kumita, kailangan talaga nila maginvite, else d sila kikita. (pag dumami yung hindi nag-invite, magko-collapse ang company)
whereas sa legal MLM, whether or not maginvite ka, pwede ka kumita (thru selling of products since hindi bloated ang price ng products at consummable/really saleable yung products)


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^true ferrari, sorry i forgot to mention sa post ko, im assuming na legit yun network company, and focused the analysis on the person :)


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i see. no worries Sir...
grabe, it's a spooky day today... dahil sa mga nalaman ko dito ngayon.

d ba pwedeng chicks or sports na lang ang pagusapan para masaya.... hehehh, joke

OT; tungkol kay Ram Revilla, na pinatay... duda ko may kinalaman yun sa mana &/or sakit ni Ramon Revilla Sr.. let's see kung tama hula ko in a few months


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Investee turned Scammer typical process:
1.soliciting investments by presenting business plan
2. promise certain rate
3. fulfill obligation by crediting the interest rate promised
4. after a while,investor capital gone.....

Typical Networker and network process:
1.soliciting investments by presenting business plan
2. promise returns
3. fulfill obligation by initial help
4. investor (downline) having difficulty marketing (finding their downline)....
5. after a while, investor capital gone.....

So, may legit excuse ang networker, which is step number 4, which is di ka nagtrabaho, so natural na wala ka nang returns.

But, if the networker promises you dont have to work and you will still earn, then step 4 is eliminated. Then walang pinagkaiba yun process ng Networker sa Sumablay turned Scammer typical process.

Just wanna interject...

It's like the point of the whole thing is that the scammer PROMISES returns.

I've been reading a book on "financial fraud" on the personal level (hindi ung accounting fraud; iba yan)... some of the things you have to watch out for are:
[1] Promises or guarantees (not to be confused with a business model that calls for reimbursement)
[2] lack of transparency on operations -- VERY IMPORTANT! The excuse of "Proprietary Information", i.e. ang rason na "secreeeet", is completely unacceptable: example, I can tell people how I analyze and invest in securities without even delving into proprietary information. (In fact, this info can be found on my thread.)
[3] obscurity through complexity -- transparency exists, but scammers try to obfuscate investors by going into things they don't understand. Example would be asking a stock market investor what shorts and longs are, and the person consistently cannot explain it in such a way a stupid and retarded person can understand it.
[4] custodian of investment is the same entity as the investment manager
[5] no specific performance data to date
[6] an integrated marketing pitch emphasizing attention-grabbing and flashy messages
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 01:10 AM by TSO »


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Just wanna interject...

It's like the point of the whole thing is that the scammer PROMISES returns.

I've been reading a book on "financial fraud" on the personal level (hindi ung accounting fraud; iba yan)... some of the things you have to watch out for are:
[1] Promises or guarantees (not to be confused with a business model that calls for reimbursement)
[2] lack of transparency on operations -- VERY IMPORTANT! The excuse of "Proprietary Information", i.e. ang rason na "secreeeet", is completely unacceptable: example, I can tell people how I analyze and invest in securities without even delving into proprietary information. (In fact, this info can be found on my thread.)
[3] obscurity through complexity -- transparency exists, but scammers try to obfuscate investors by going into things they don't understand. Example would be asking a stock market investor what shorts and longs are, and the person consistently cannot explain it in such a way a stupid and retarded person can understand it.
[4] custodian of investment is the same entity as the investment manager
[5] no specific performance data to date
[6] an integrated marketing pitch emphasizing attention-grabbing and flashy messages

^True, true...and generally points 6-3 falls on the first step of the process- soliciting investment by presenting business plan.

Point number 2- lack of transparency of operations- falls on the part where investee fulfill their obligations by crediting their promised returns. And because investor gets their promised rate, they seldom or even never monitor the operation of the investee's business. And the investee seldom or even never updates the investor of thier operation....

It all boils down to broken promises.
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 07:24 AM by GoodSteward »


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kung alam mong networking yung inooffer sayo, sapat na red flag na siguro yun for you to be on the cautious side and dapat naintindihan mo na na may recruiting at downline ekek ang mga ganyan. kung di mo yun alam, wag ka ng magtaka kung malugi ka. meron nga noon isa sa mga produkto nila e toothpaste na nakakapayat or nakakagamot daw ng diabetes. sisisihin mo ba ung nagbenta sayo o ang sarili mo for falling for such b.s.? pag sinabi ng networker na "kikita ka dito kahit di ka magrecruit", at naniwala ka, you've been had. wag ka ng tumingin sa iba dahil sorry to say, u only have yourself to blame. yung experience ko sa ganito, i just chalked it up to experience... tutal kaibigan ko ung upline ko, kumita sya, ako hindi. pero wala ng next time.  :cool2:
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I was also invited to join here 2 years ago. But not $777 I think around 270 or equivalent to 16k+, Ym Lang Kami nagchat, I wasn't into mlm as I told him, but was told that I won't have to do anything since siya na bahala sa positioning, that a lot of pmt members are planning to join, that He will help each & everyone from Pmt to earn from it. I wasn't told to attend any meeting or seminars, wait Lang daw ako. Alam ko maraming nagjoin dito, those I remembered are sirzap, tops, rhipolito & others I can't quite remember. I got convince to join & I remember depositing the money to a bdo or bpi account. After nun wala na me balita about it.

Siguro after a month upon investing, I chanced up sa YM with CI & kinamusta ko investment. May inaayos pa something or someone dun sa upline niya sa abroad. That was the last time I heard anything about it.

I'm not sure if it didn't work out or the mlm group got resolved. But I believed everyone who invested deserve an explaination as to what happened. Personally, I find it odd when I found out He is again encouraging people here to join another mlm investment while some still doesn't know what happened to their previous investments. At the back of my mind, not very professional at all.

I'm not questioning the reputation or trustworthiness of CI. I just need a concrete explanation as to what happened to our investments? Though the amount investment is puny compared to what I've invested with others. I think for all concerned, we deserve or demand an explanation.

Sa akin Lang, bago ka pa mag-offer na Kung ano ano. Ano nangyari sa mga pinangakuan mo na kikita sa Lgn? I think this is a great opportunity for him to settle this issue once & for all. This is long overdue & I bet Hindi alng ako ang nag-aantay ng kasagutan dito.

Di ka nag-iisa sir Bp. Nag-aantay din ako ng closure nitong issueng ito.
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 09:30 AM by tops5450 »


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I think ekimonktoo is pertaining to his investment to Lgn prosperity. Below is the thread about it

http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=29196.0


I was also invited to join here 2 years ago. But not $777 I think around 270 or equivalent to 16k+, Ym Lang Kami nagchat, I wasn't into mlm as I told him, but was told that I won't have to do anything since siya na bahala sa positioning, that a lot of pmt members are planning to join, that He will help each & everyone from Pmt to earn from it. I wasn't told to attend any meeting or seminars, wait Lang daw ako. Alam ko maraming nagjoin dito, those I remembered are sirzap, tops, rhipolito & others I can't quite remember. I got convince to join & I remember depositing the money to a bdo or bpi account. After nun wala na me balita about it.

Siguro after a month upon investing, I chanced up sa YM with CI & kinamusta ko investment. May inaayos pa something or someone dun sa upline niya sa abroad. That was the last time I heard anything about it.

I'm not sure if it didn't work out or the mlm group got resolved. But I believed everyone who invested deserve an explaination as to what happened. Personally, I find it odd when I found out He is again encouraging people here to join another mlm investment while some still doesn't know what happened to their previous investments. At the back of my mind, not very professional at all.

I'm not questioning the reputation or trustworthiness of CI. I just need a concrete explanation as to what happened to our investments? Though the amount investment is puny compared to what I've invested with others. I think for all concerned, we deserve or demand an explanation.

Sa akin Lang, bago ka pa mag-offer na Kung ano ano. Ano nangyari sa mga pinangakuan mo na kikita sa Lgn? I think this is a great opportunity for him to settle this issue once & for all. This is long overdue & I bet Hindi alng ako ang nag-aantay ng kasagutan dito.

same sentiments with BP22

promised and reason on why I invested to this.
1. Due to his reputation.
2. Promised na di kailangan trabahuhin dahil after 6 months whatever happen he will return the money invested in it.

Now I know that #2 is really a promise which bound to be broken :(

I think 2 yrs ago na rin yung transaction namin dito. That time nagbakasyon ako sa pinas and called him to inquire about the 3% per month investment and he told me that he temporary stop the 3% offer and he has other GOOD investment to offer especially for us OFW and say that some of PMT SG already invested in it. I called the person mention to confirmed yung investment nya and it's true na nag-invest nga yung kakilala kong member ng PMT SG (same understanding dun sa promise na nabanggit ko).

So met CI in White Plains and made the investment with his promised/guaranteed  that he will returned the investment in 6 months time if in case we were not able to explode our group here in Singapore and I even get my brother to join me in this.

I'm not also into MLM but with his reputation and good intention (that time I really believed that he was here to help others to earn) so I join the flock.

When I returned here in SG, I even met other PMT SG here to explain the system dahil personal kong nameet si CI regarding this offer and honestly all of us here (PMT SG active that time) are confident and believed that CI will really returned our initial investment after 6 months. I know another 2 persons in PMT SG invested to this but since di na kame active ngayon so di ko na alam kung ano na update dun sa investment nila. 

I'm not blaming anybody here, I'm just sharing my experienced on the investment as well as on the person who introduced this investment. And now I know that good intentions and good reputation alone doesn't jive with a good investment return, it's a costly experience I may say.


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^ may money-back guarantee? hmmm, smells like fish in here...


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Tinatamad na ako basahin lahat ang haba ng mga reply  :coffee:...For me hindi naman scam ang ginawa ni CI ang mahirap lang is yung iwanan ka ng salita yes it's not promise but in other words  "word of trust"  at ang nagpahirap pa dun lalo walang RULES ang mga sinalihan nyang company na product return if you want to back out which is so unfair. Tapos malalaman mo after a few months nasa ibang company na naman. For me there is no perfect comp plan, no perfect company, no perfect product sa kahit anong business sabi nga ng chinese friend ko it's always on the people. So the result of what he did is no more will trust him again to be his follower and thinking that he just after the money in network marketing business d2 sa pmt. Sabagay madami pa naman tao sa pinas 22M pa ang pwede mo kausapin so malawak pa rin ang market hehe  :rakenrol:... Tama nga si Eddy Chai hindi investment ang networking marketing but a real business that you need to work hard and put it in your heart and the only thing you need to invest is this field is "TIME"  :book: Natuto naman ako sa kanya eh na pinakawalang kwentang comp plan ay ang MATRIX CYCLE and another rust of Network Marketing Industry...
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 12:33 PM by george88 »


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Same here, waiting for the closure of the LGN from CI.


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Sabi sakin ng isang taga PMT d2. Masyado daw mataas si CondoInvestor unreactive lang daw sya sa mga ganitong issue . So wala na tayo magagawa ibaon na lang sa limot learning experience na lang medyo mahal nga lang pero maliit lang yan compare sa mga experience ng mga sobrang successful na tao ngayon like steve jobs, henry sy, pacquaio etc etc  :bob:...Basta ako international MLM na lang ipupush ko dito...Lahat na ata ng kabulastugan sa MLM industry nangyari na d2 sa pinas... :peace:
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 12:42 PM by george88 »


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Sabi sakin ng isang taga PMT d2. Masyado daw mataas si CondoInvestor unreactive lang daw sya sa mga ganitong issue . So wala na tayo magagawa ibaon na lang sa limot learning experience na lang medyo mahal nga lang pero maliit lang yan compare sa mga experience ng mga sobrang successful na tao ngayon like steve jobs, henry sy, pacquaio etc

Ewan ko lantg ha, pero sa pagka-subaybay ko lagi dito sa PMT,eto ang nakikita kong pattern with Boss Condo, at eto ay aking observation lamang:

Whenever nasa hot seat siya like now, tahimik lang yan..pag lumipas na, mabubuhay ulit mga threads niya, it will either be started by someone na magiinquire about investment options or someone thanking him for passive income....

Ewan natin kung mauulit yun ganyang cycle, only time can tell...

But one thing is for sure (aking opinion lamang), he is reading this thread anonymously.....

Btw, i can never go wrong with this post...(with one small loophole for Boss Condo to commit, will tell kapag nangyari) hehehe
1. If nagreact siya now and breaks his silence, provocation sucessful...
2. If sumulpot uli siya after some time when all of these cool down, i told you so, another cycle...
3. Kung hindi na siya bumalik ever, that means, PMT  blood sucked dry na, why waste time market here when there are more newer fresher venues where he can employ his marketing strategy...
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 01:12 PM by GoodSteward »


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I think his strategy is not effective outside of PMT alam nyang ang mga member ng PMT seeking for another venture/instrument that will grow their money ibig sabihin target market nya may mga ready cash...


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^Good point george88, very good point...

Ngayon mahihirapan na rin siya here....

Question: If there is anyone inquiring on his thread, do you think posting this thread's link to his thread to serve as vigil and warning is proper?


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http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=35166.msg378946#msg378946

Kayo na humusga about masterant and Condo...
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 03:41 PM by GoodSteward »


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Condoinvestor, i encourage you to participate & address the concerns of your investors in the mentioned thread below

what you see below is based on facts, posts & Private messages i got




WARNING sa potential Investors

Please read
Condoinvestor is a scammer thread
http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=37721.0
may posts jan ng mga pinangakuan/naloko ni CondoInvestor
sabi nila Condoinvestor is involved with Clixsters & LGN

Meron ba dito nakakaalam sa Real name ni Condoinvestor?
real name ba nya ay may T.P.L initials? or letter L ang surname?
Totoo ba na sumali siya sa Momentum Kinetics kung saan kasama niya ang mga network hopper/builders na si Joey Marcelo at Jun Kintanar?
si Joey Marcelo
ang owner ng Sante International
involved siya dati with Vision Unlimited, Big League, LBB (League of Business Builders)
Si Jun Kintanar
dating taga FLP na lumipat sa UNO (correct me if im wrong), Winalite (this year/last year?), at mukhang this July/August lang ay lumipat sa Momentum Kinetics


condoinvestor is planning to setup his own network marketing company with a pmt member here who supplies uno..... sa pagkakaalam ko may pine-perfect syang complan and waiting for the right timing.
while negative people are busy spreading gossips, he's working hard meeting top earners of different mlm industries asking for opinions
.... nasa robinsons galleria ang office nya
,

i've been watching videos, checking links/websties since last night. i will post them here later.

kung meron pa ritong naloko or napangakuan ni Condoinvestor, i suggest magsalita na kayo ngayon, at mag-usap kayo ng mga fellow investors na naloko.
mahirap naman na tumunganga lang tayo dito habang may mga naloloko na pala.[/size]


WHY AM I DOING THIS?
hindi ako active networker ngayon, pero mahal ko ang networking. magandang business ito pag ginawa ng tama, at maraming matinong MLM at networkers. ayokong patuloy na masira ang networking satin at mas maraming maloko dahil sa mga pasaway at sira ulong networker.


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siguro hindi naman lahat.
si puberer may pinagkakautangan pero plano naman nya magbayad. at magpopost daw siya sa Linggo para magpaliwanag.

si CondoInvestor, tingin ko parang sumobra ang ganid sa pera. pareho sila ng history ni Jun Kintanar, laki daw sa hirap. parang lumulutang na sila sa ere, hindi nila napapansin kung may nasasagasaan na silang mga tao sa pagpapayaman nila.
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 05:49 PM by ferrariEverest »


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so in short and simple language... condoInvestor is a scammer


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kung oo, at tama ka, the important question is, WHAT DO U GUYS PLAN TO DO ABOUT IT?
d lang ikaw ang nagsalita dito na pinangakuan nya.


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Ewan ko lantg ha, pero sa pagka-subaybay ko lagi dito sa PMT,eto ang nakikita kong pattern with Boss Condo, at eto ay aking observation lamang:

Whenever nasa hot seat siya like now, tahimik lang yan..pag lumipas na, mabubuhay ulit mga threads niya, it will either be started by someone na magiinquire about investment options or someone thanking him for passive income....

Ewan natin kung mauulit yun ganyang cycle, only time can tell...

But one thing is for sure (aking opinion lamang), he is reading this thread anonymously.....

Btw, i can never go wrong with this post...(with one small loophole for Boss Condo to commit, will tell kapag nangyari) hehehe
1. If nagreact siya now and breaks his silence, provocation sucessful...
2. If sumulpot uli siya after some time when all of these cool down, i told you so, another cycle...
3. Kung hindi na siya bumalik ever, that means, PMT  blood sucked dry na, why waste time market here when there are more newer fresher venues where he can employ his marketing strategy...

       GS syots,so does it mean na we were right at the start about CI,3 yrs ago? what do you think?


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so in short and simple language... condoInvestor is a scammer
Maybe greedy is the best term. Not a credible person so never trust him. :b_jack:
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 06:06 PM by george88 »


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he is a scammer AND greedy.
nangako siya. he failed to meet his obligations. proof yung mga nagpost dito.

mukhang may kaya/mayaman na siya, pero he still wants more money.

sabi nya sa isang youtube video, mahirap lang sila nung bata pa siya.
i think Psychologists would agree with me that his current greed stemmed from his childhood experience.
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 06:03 PM by ferrariEverest »


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Ano nanaman ito? may trend yata nagaganap about scammers :eek:

tsk tsk...dati rati ko nakikita si Condoinvestor na parating active dito sa PMT..di ako makapaniwala na may accusation sa kanya na ganito. Sana ma address nya ang situation at ma-claro.

OT:

Hirap na baka may lumitaw din na thread "Beware of Lightwind_99" ... hahaha

or another thread para kay Ferrari "Ladies beware of FerraEverest...chikboy kasi  :watchuthink:"


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hindi ba thread entitled "Beware of Ferrari .... AKIN lang siya" ? hihihihih


alam nyo, sa totoo lang, idol ko dati si Condoinvestor. kasi kakaiba yung mga post nya tungkol sa negosyo. parang andami na nya narating na dkopa narating.
naginquire na ko dati tungkol sa mga Deals nya, buti na lang d siya nagreply sa PM ko.

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CHECK nyo profile ni Condoinvestor.
ONLINE siya kaninag 5.30pm lang.
http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5373

bakit kaya nagbabasa lang siya at hindi nagreply? ? ?
buti pa si puberer, may nagtext lang sa kanya, nakuha nyang magpost kahit saglit.
ano sa tingin nyo? esep esep mga kapatid
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 06:10 PM by ferrariEverest »


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hindi ba thread entitled "Beware of Ferrari .... AKIN lang siya" ? hihihihih


alam nyo, sa totoo lang, idol ko dati si Condoinvestor. kasi kakaiba yung mga post nya tungkol sa negosyo. parang andami na nya narating na dkopa narating.
naginquire na ko dati tungkol sa mga Deals nya, buti na lang d siya nagreply sa PM ko.
pag yumaman ka ng husto at hindi mo nacontrol ang sarili mo dyan na lalabas ang greediness na kung saan wala ka ng emotion at respeto sa ibang tao...


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ask ko lang bakit nga ba gumagamit ng screen/other name si CI?

na explain nya sa kin dati pero nakalimutan ko na reason :)


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^ george,
well, there is always an exception to a rule.

hindi lahat ng mayaman ganid at sira ulo.
in the same light, hindi rin lahat ng mahirap tanga, bobo, sira ulo, magnanakaw, walang modo.


^ chmen,
ano ibig mong sabihin?
kilala/nameet mo na basiya? alam mo real name nya? i just need to confirm. kindly PM me kung sino nakakaalam ng real name niya. may hula na kasi ako, base sa mga video na napanood ko.
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 06:15 PM by ferrariEverest »


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a business is as good as its reputation...

Where is he now? Hiding and looking for more people to scam.

Watch out for Alexander "Scammer"  Tan.


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Palagay ko naman sa dami ng investor ni CI na nakabasa na nito, me tumawag or nagtext na sa kanya.  Mukang yung sa networking lang ang may complain.   How about doon sa property investments, anybody who had a bad experience with CI on his property investment ventures?


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@Ferrari,

yap we already met kasi dati ako investor dun sa real state venture nya na 3% monthly..ok naman credit nya with that and nabalik na lahat ng capital...kaya for me i still cant brand him scammer

pero i think kelangan talaga ng explanation nya dun sa LGN nya...ako kasi di sumali kasi di rin ako marunogn about MLM

@ekimonk

Yan yung name na gamit nya dito sa PMT pero alam ko di yan real name nya...
di ko maalala tunay na pangalan nya natanung ko kasi sya kasi napansin dun sa na issue nya check iba pangalan....pero nagyun ko lang naisip pwede palang iba check gamit nya at alex talaga name nya heheh...just pure speculation :)


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ekimonk,
yan yung Yahoo ID nya noon.
hindi na nya binabanggit yan recently.

sino ba nakakaalam ng real name nya?
may "L" ba ang surname nya? starts with L?
T.P.L. ba ang initials niya?


chmen,
singkit ba siya, maliit, mejo mataba? please confirm dahil may pictures na ako

nightwatch,
yun suspetcha ko kahapon , na posibleng sa networking siya pumalpak.
pero, we'll never know, baka may sablay rin siya sa ibang negosyo niya.
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 06:26 PM by ferrariEverest »


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Eto other name nya  "Paul Christian Leonardo"

Beware of this scammer aka condoinvestor


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OK CONFIRMED.
Paul Christian Leonardo
aka Tan Po Lo

eto yung video niya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urZ-ipZhIIs
kakasali lang daw niya sa Momentum Kinetics, isang potential Pyramiding scam na naman

see for yourself

kagabi pa ko nanood ng videos. si Jun Kintanar talaga ang pakay ko sa panonood, dko ineexpect i'll be hitting 2 birds with 1 stone

other relevant facts related to Condoinvestor na pinakita/binanggit sa video (ang numbers below ay ang specific minutes:seconds dun sa video)
2:15 Paul Christian? Leonardo , Chinese Tan Po Lo
10:07 Leonardo (his surname)
12:04 kahapon lang ako sumali sa MK (Momentum Kinetics)
12.12 mentions CashFlow101
12:20 Rich Dad Poor Dad
12:25 mentions P100 lang pera sa bulsa ko
13:10 auction experience
http://www.facebook.com/people/Tan-Po-Lo/100000264926156
http://www.facebook.com/people/Tan-Po-Lo/100002992623817   Tan Po Lo in his limousine?


wait... there's more..
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 07:07 PM by ferrariEverest »


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CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!!!

TAN PO LO name niya

san mo nakuha yang picture na yan? mukhang bago lang yan a


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urZ-ipZhIIs
check nyo yung pictures sa video at facebook at mga binanggit nya sa video na pinost ko
at ikumpara nyo sa sinabi nya at pictures nya dito
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!



COMPARE nyo pictures ng properties below dun sa video sa itaas around 13:30 onwards






yung bare like this,


nagiging ganito....




I started with P100 capital 5 years ago(2006).  Before that I lost all of my money in my past ventures.  Sold all my car and even my house.  Don't ever ever give up on your dreams

Nagkita na tayo ...  Minsan sa isang Auction.
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 07:24 PM by ferrariEverest »


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salamat. wala yun.

alam mo kasi, nagpuyat ako kagabi kakapanood ng videos ng networkers.
share ko lang dito yung mga napanood ko para mas hindi sayang yung oras/puyat ko. hihihi

saka naiscam narin ako dati. sana yung mga naiscam ngayon makuha nila pera nila.


COMPARE THIS
(This is the actual pics inside my business limo


WITH HIS PICTURE HERE
http://www.facebook.com/people/Tan-Po-Lo/100002992623817
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 07:20 PM by ferrariEverest »


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      GS syots,so does it mean na we were right at the start about CI,3 yrs ago? what do you think?
@wintan, ats, honestly di ko pa ma 100% na we were right about CI, remember at that time he was offering real estate ventures which we both think too good to be true? And until now nobody is complaining so i guess all is well with that venture...

And then here comes the revelation of empty promises just to get downlines for his MLM...I think that is what its all about now....

What's your thought ats? :)

This is like a teledrama unfolding, with some mysteries to solve d ba ats...hehehe

---------------
FREAKING MAKE SENSE THEORIES
As to his real estate business, who knows how he did it...speculation ko lang to ha
its either
1.legit at big time siya at yun trade secret niya ay successful - kaya lahat good and wala kang marinig na reklamo....Well done Boss Condo if that's the case.

2. hindi legit at nagkapoblema...but how did he solve it and no investors complained? MLM!....Remember Ghilby's post on page 2 of this thread that he/she originally was supposed to inquire about the 3% real estate venture, but it was stopped by CI and CI introduced MLM instead....Get the groove? What he earned from MLM, pang tapal sa real estate venture, if indeed nagkapoblema....so empty promises sa MLM to save real estate problem....

Both 1 and 2 are just theories....readers decide, and can disagree on both and come up with other theories.


« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 10:01 PM by GoodSteward »


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I'd love to hear the inputs of other long-time members of PMT regarding this topic.




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FREAKING MAKE SENSE THEORIES
oo nga, pantapal yung ibang pera dun sa ibang may butas
rinse & repeat


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@ferrari,

sabi ko na nga ba iba ang assessment ko ng makita kong mag share ng pictures si CI with matching 'kwento' of sucess after so many tries...... i know something will go wrong soon.

again, another sad story for most investors to learn something from their recent experience.


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@Ferrari, nice one, you busted CIs identity :)
salamat Sir GoodSteward!

first time ko ginamit ang pagiging stalker ko ng chicks sa isang guy :D

salamat rin sa tiwala dun sa nag-PM sakin, saka kay ekimonk, nakatulong magbigay ng clue&confirmation.
may saysay yung pagpupuyat ko kaninang madaling araw.


Sir bauer,
overblown &/or inconsistent ba?
i'm glad to see u sharing your insight here.
it's sad & disappointing wala masyado nagpaparticipate dito.
diba dapat nagsasama-sama yung affected investors...


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CI's story was great and seemed to good to be true...

But once he posted about his venture sa MLM...right there and then...i had a strange feeling na thats already the sign. Its downhill na.

Received also a couple of texts from him in the past months..soliciting for investments.


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Yeah, mukang nabubuo na yung kwento.  Search mo na rin ferrari yung post ni CI na naapektuhan sya sometime in December last year dahil sa sunod sunod na withrawal ng investor dahil sa mga naunang scammers.  How he did survive? only he, knows.  And also check, bakit biglang sumipag na namang mag solicit ng mga investments dito yan.  Gusto nga bang tumulong lang or may pending financial crisis.



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        GS syots,my thoughts? if he was and is doing well on his real estate ventures,why venture in piggery( i remember he mentioned it once here) laundry,MLM,etc etc. I also remembered sending him PM here years ago   but no reply from him,diba ikaw din? anyway let's give him the benefit of the doubt.Let's just wait for him  to explain his side din.


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ako jan sa thread ni condoinvestor unang napadpad at ilang ulit ako nagpapaemail ng details nung "big deal" na sinasabi nya, pero laging sagot meet up daw ang preference. tinanong ko kung mlm ba yang bigdeal, same reply, so inassume ko na ganun na nga. e dahil alam ko wala akong kakayanan mangrecruit di ko na tinuloy. then parang a few weeks ago nag-PM sya sakin na may short term deal daw sya 200k @ 4% for 3 months only hahabol daw nila for the christmas season... e nagkataon naman naiinvest ko na ang pera ko (buti na lang!), kaya di ko na sinagot... un lang so far ang contact between him and i. nagpa-add pa sya dati sa fb para malaman ko daw mga updates, e since di  na nga ako interested di ko na rin inalam. again, sa MLM aspect lang itong pinaguusapan natin,ung sa real estate (at pati na mga laundry shops) nya, e so far wala pa tayong lead/info ng kung anumang problem, right?

btw, fE, bakit 2 threads on condoinvestor: ito, saka ung Potential networking scammer... nagisip pa tuloy ako san ako dapat magpost sa dalawa hehe... saka observation lang din.. sino ba yung jun kintanar na sinasabi mong pakay mong panoorin sa video sa itaas? whats ur beef with him na mukhang naka-aggravate sayo for u to devote this much time and energy to demolish them including condoinvestor? mejo naintriga lang ako "what went before",kung meron man.. i know u said ur  intention is to protect the reputation of the mlm industry and i salute u there bosing. napaisip lang ako kung may iba pang kwento sa likod nito..

side comment lang din... mejo ang sagwa lang sa paningin para sa mga newbies sa PMT, isipin mo kakalogin pa lang nila, gustong matuto tungkol sa pera at maginvest, tapos namumutiktik na "scammer" ang mga titles ng recent posts...doesnt bode well for this forum and the individuals comprising it... im just sayin'.. peaceout :)


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I hope CI will post here.  Pero knowing him, he will NOT reply, and let all this things pass muna.  Palamig nga siguro, ika nga.

I am not part of his MLM group, though I am aware he is active sa CLIXSTER.  Kasi I am never good in networking.  Alam po ni CI yun.  Several times na kami nag meet nyan before.

As of last week, my investment with him sa real estate venture nya, nag clear naman yun check. 

Sana naman, di totoo yun accusation.


Parang Eurozone din dito sa PMT ah?!?! 


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I stand corrected 14500 is should be the right amount I've invested. Closure rin Lang about the LGN issues. Nothing more. I'm glad others who invested shared the same sentiments about the issue I have brought up.

Personally, I have also invested based on his reputation. Met him a couple of times na rin when he used to hold cashflow games to pmt members. Intention ko Lang nun since maraming pwedeng kumita daw dito, I joined dahil na rin sa
pakisama. Kumita man or Hindi ok Lang.

Ok Lang sna if Hindi nagflourished yung LGN, though walng closure, I think everyone just assumed na nadisolved na yung PMT Leg.

Asking those who invested in his real estate or 3% monthly return investment. Found out na ok pa naman, most I've talk to doesn't have any problems regarding
payments.

Here is where the problem started. As far as everyone who invested in LGN, binaon na namin sa lupa at kinalimutan. Lesson learned.

Ok na Sana, then He started posting again about a new venture, the great equalizer, dito makakabawi mga inalat sa maraming investees dito. Maraming. Magiging millionaires here. Posting his big figure earning from it, bagong Starex
Limousine. I don't see any problem with him doing that. typical of how you wow your potential recruits in most mlm companies.

Dito na pumasok ang problema. Yung issue sana na nabaon na sa
lim0t, naturally lilitaw ulit. Kumikita kana e with flying colors. Natural may mag-rereact from a group of previous Investors you've convinced to join & trusted your word for it.

Let me put up a simple example. I got a friend who borrowed 10K from me, kinapos daw sa tuition na inaanak ko. Pinahiram ko & Hindi ko na rin ineexpext na babayaran. Then after a few weeks Lang nabalitaan ko, may bagong LCD tv, PS3 & Another gadget that I've forgot. Nagulat ako but didn't ask or remind him of any payment. Sumunod na tuition time. Got a text na if pwedeng siyang umutang ulit kapos Lang, at isasabay nalang daw niya ako bayaran for both loans. Tao Lang at yun nabwisit na ako.

I got a feeling na ganyan na ganyan na-feel ng mga sumali sa LGN Dati & wasn't informed of what happened to it.

A good reputation can't easily be affected by rumors or bad publicity. At the end the truth will eventually cast away any people's doubt about it. Any issues big or small should be address accordingly & professionally.  

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        GS syots,my thoughts? if he was and is doing well on his real estate ventures,why venture in piggery( i remember he mentioned it once here) laundry,MLM,etc etc. I also remembered sending him PM here years ago   but no reply from him,diba ikaw din? anyway let's give him the benefit of the doubt.Let's just wait for him  to explain his side din.

Ats, haha no reply din years back, alam siguro humuhuli lang ng isda hehe..si ferrari di din nireplyan lately right? :)

Ya, lets wait for him to explain his side...He was in hot water sometime who knows when years back,it can be traced by backreading his thread... tahimik lang siya, and when the clouds clear, he surfaced up again...This time seems like mahihirapan na siya, unless MOTOLITE yun explanation niya...CONVINCING...hehhe

And i dunno ha, mostly OFW yun mga nirereplyan nya...why kaya....



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Bp22estaffa, speaking of the great equalizer.....

Here is the last ditch effort of masterant, in defending and thanking CI for his continuous passives for 2 years today in the Great equalizer thread:

http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=25289;sa=showPosts;start=15
Post number 22
Nalock na yun thread so i cant quote:
bago na ang pmt forum ahh.  im a lurker for 2 years.  Decided to register.
first day of present
October 20,2010 posted by masterant

Posted on the same day: take note of the YATA...so di sila close ni COndo...and sounds like meron syang sariling team...
sir, maganda ang kitaan sa LGN, mga 60 katao ang nag-join sa group namin sa Marikina.  ito yung video sa youtube ng Philippine Team.

dala lang kayo ng guest nyo sa mga venue ng lgn. si CI yata yung dumalaw sa Cabanatuan with a team.  isa po yata sya sa nauna dito sa Pilipinas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIMbyTaRnIs

my earnings:

Earned: $17,176.00
Note: The total amount of funds that have been paid so far
Pending Payment: $2875.00
Note: The total amount of funds that are pending payment.
Holding Period: $150.00
Note: The total amount of funds that are in holding period.



And this post is today, november 4, 2011
For masterant 2010 to 2011 is 2 years!!!
Ah kasi 1 year and almost 1 month, so rounded up... 2 years...tsktsk

Nov 2 credited to my bank account sir.  :thankyou: for the  :cool2: passive sa trading.

2 years na wala pa ring mintis sa passive. 20 Box order po tayo rito sa area ko Bossing.

Busted....

Lets see how masterant explains...
« Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 11:18 PM by GoodSteward »


 


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