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on: Dec 30, 2010, 04:33 PM
YEAR -  is the orbital period of the Earth moving around the Sun. In astronomy, the Julian year is a unit of time, defined as 365.25 days of 86,400 SI seconds each.

MONTH - is a unit of time, used with calendars, which was first used and invented in Mesopotamia, as a natural period related to the motion of the Moon. The traditional concept arose with the cycle of moon phases; such months (lunations) are synodic months and last approximately 29.53 days.

DAY - time it takes for the Earth to make a complete revolution on its own axis.

WEEK – Where did the seven-day week originate?
- It has nothing to do with the movement of earth, or sun or moon.
- Did the idea pop-up like daisy? Did it exist by chance? Not at All.
- IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH GOD'S CREATION.

A 7-day week PROOVES THAT GOD CREATED ALL THE THINGS ON THIS WORLD, and he did it in complete 7 DAYS ( Not 6 and not 8 ).

A very ideal 7 day cycle (WEEK) where we can work, play, rest and enjoy our life to the fullest.


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Reply #1 on: Dec 30, 2010, 05:29 PM
Nice!


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Reply #2 on: Dec 30, 2010, 05:38 PM
YEAR -  is the orbital period of the Earth moving around the Sun. In astronomy, the Julian year is a unit of time, defined as 365.25 days of 86,400 SI seconds each.

MONTH - is a unit of time, used with calendars, which was first used and invented in Mesopotamia, as a natural period related to the motion of the Moon. The traditional concept arose with the cycle of moon phases; such months (lunations) are synodic months and last approximately 29.53 days.

DAY - time it takes for the Earth to make a complete revolution on its own axis.

WEEK – Where did the seven-day week originate?
- It has nothing to do with the movement of earth, or sun or moon.
- Did the idea pop-up like daisy? Did it exist by chance? Not at All.
- IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH GOD'S CREATION.

A 7-day week PROOVES THAT GOD CREATED ALL THE THINGS ON THIS WORLD, and he did it in complete 7 DAYS ( Not 6 and not 8 ).

A very ideal 7 day cycle (WEEK) where we can work, play, rest and enjoy our life to the fullest.


What about a  DAY ?  a 24 hours cycle where we are given 8 hours day work,  8 hours refreshment  and 8 hours service to God and mankind.  :yoohoo:


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Reply #3 on: Dec 31, 2010, 06:46 PM
WEEK – Where did the seven-day week originate?
- It has nothing to do with the movement of earth, or sun or moon.
- Did the idea pop-up like daisy? Did it exist by chance? Not at All.
- IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH GOD'S CREATION.

Ang galin no? Just because you we don't know where it came from, automatic na yung sagot -- it must be from God!
Saan nanggaling ang puno? -- We don't know, so it must be from God! Tapos ang kwento. Kuntento na tayo sa sagot na God!

Kung titingnan mo, ang sabi nila God created the world in 6 days, then He rested on the 7th day. (Hehe, rested -- napapagod pala God mo.)

Di kaya dun yan kinuha sa Roman calendar na 7 days week? Baliktad diba? And origin ng 7 days-week is from the 7 known planets at that time.

The "seven days of a week" proves that there are seven days in a week. Nothing more, nothing less.


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Reply #4 on: Jan 01, 2011, 03:09 AM
God is the answer for everything,,saves wear and tear of brain cells..only shows how people think...puts them in the league of  :hihi: :bahalaka:

those who cannot accept me for who I am are real hypocrites....they only like my advice and my help ..enuff said...
« Last Edit: Jan 01, 2011, 03:10 AM by mlangseth »


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Reply #5 on: Jan 02, 2011, 12:36 PM
Kung titingnan mo, ang sabi nila God created the world in 6 days, then He rested on the 7th day. (Hehe, rested -- napapagod pala God mo.)

- your rest is different from His rest. Read the verses...he hallowed and sanctified, as a remembrance of His creation and give it to mankind for them to have a one day each week to "rest" and remember Him and worship Him and know that He is the ceator.

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Di kaya dun yan kinuha sa Roman calendar na 7 days week? Baliktad diba? And origin ng 7 days-week is from the 7 known planets at that time.

- before the Roman empire adopte the 7-day week, the Jews is already observing the 7-day week long long time ago.

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The "seven days of a week" proves that there are seven days in a week. Nothing more, nothing less.

- your opinion...your choice...


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Reply #6 on: Jan 03, 2011, 01:12 AM
yes, your god is very powerful creating the world in a few days..but he cannot stop the tsunami that wasted almost two hundred thousand lives, he did not stop the Manila hostage.or the Ampatuan murders..or the famous 911 in NYC which i have witnessed myself...what a powerful god eh... :hihi: :hihi: :harhar:


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Reply #7 on: Jan 03, 2011, 06:45 AM
YEAR -  is the orbital period of the Earth moving around the Sun. In astronomy, the Julian year is a unit of time, defined as 365.25 days of 86,400 SI seconds each.

MONTH - is a unit of time, used with calendars, which was first used and invented in Mesopotamia, as a natural period related to the motion of the Moon. The traditional concept arose with the cycle of moon phases; such months (lunations) are synodic months and last approximately 29.53 days.

DAY - time it takes for the Earth to make a complete revolution on its own axis.

WEEK – Where did the seven-day week originate?
- It has nothing to do with the movement of earth, or sun or moon.
- Did the idea pop-up like daisy? Did it exist by chance? Not at All.
- IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH GOD'S CREATION.

A 7-day week PROOVES THAT GOD CREATED ALL THE THINGS ON THIS WORLD, and he did it in complete 7 DAYS ( Not 6 and not 8 ).

A very ideal 7 day cycle (WEEK) where we can work, play, rest and enjoy our life to the fullest.



You have a gap in your presentation.  It’s between ‘IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH GOD'S CREATION.’ and
’A 7-day week PROOVES THAT GOD CREATED ALL THE THINGS ON THIS WORLD, and he did it in complete 7 DAYS ( Not 6 and not 8 ).’ I’m sure you can fill that in. 
 
The fact that the Jews were celebrating the Sabbath ever since the Biblical times proves that the Saturday we have now is the Sabbath.  The fact that the Ten Commandments say it shall be kept holy, Christians should keep it holy.  Saturday is the Sabbath not Sunday.  And Sabbath starts from sunset Friday and ends sunset Saturday.  I bet you other so-called Christians did not know that, did you? For some reason other so-called Christians would try to quote a scripture or put together a bunch of scriptures to work their way around this.  There is no Biblical way around it.  Grow up.
Titus 1:6  “6 An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.”
You other so-called preachers of the Bible should not be heard by anyone if you do not celebrate the Sabbath.  Whatever you’re teaching or however enticing your words are, Yahweh prohibits you to preach because you, sir, are not blameless.


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Reply #8 on: Jan 06, 2011, 09:07 AM
Ang galin no? Just because you we don't know where it came from, automatic na yung sagot -- it must be from God!
Saan nanggaling ang puno? -- We don't know, so it must be from God! Tapos ang kwento. Kuntento na tayo sa sagot na God!

Kung titingnan mo, ang sabi nila God created the world in 6 days, then He rested on the 7th day. (Hehe, rested -- napapagod pala God mo.)

Di kaya dun yan kinuha sa Roman calendar na 7 days week? Baliktad diba? And origin ng 7 days-week is from the 7 known planets at that time.

The "seven days of a week" proves that there are seven days in a week. Nothing more, nothing less.
Scientists would say it is the cause of the Big Bang Theory. It is hard to believe but there is a possibility because nobody really knows unless you can do time travel.


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Reply #9 on: Jan 06, 2011, 12:55 PM
....Whatever you’re teaching or however enticing your words are, Yahweh prohibits you to preach because you, sir, are not blameless.

- I am not BLAMELESS? absolutely sir. i will not consider myself blameless at all times. that's why i need God's mercy and forgiveness moment by moment.


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Reply #10 on: Jan 07, 2011, 01:56 AM
- I am not BLAMELESS? absolutely sir. i will not consider myself blameless at all times. that's why i need God's mercy and forgiveness moment by moment.

I'm sorry, rds, I should have said 'you sirs'.  I didn't mean just you.  I meant it in general.  But my point is if someone is a teacher or preacher of the Bible he should be blameless according to the scripture I quoted.

Post Merge: Jan 07, 2011, 03:16 AM
@rds your quote from the other thread
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'yet to make it clear, it is not the observance of the sabbath or the ten commandments in general will entitle us to go to heaven, but by God's grace and pardon ONLY. but the willful, deliberate and continuous violation of ANY of the COMMANDMENTS is a manifestation of contempt toward God. For those who know what is good/correct and does not do it, to him it is a sin.'

Post Merge: Jan 07, 2011, 03:41 AM
I agree.  For those who know that they should make the Sabbath holy and does not do it, to them it is a sin. Therefore, they cannot go to heaven.  All other Christian denominations know the Ten Commandments and Ephesians 2:8,9 but they willfully, deliberately and continuously dishonor the Sabbath. And for that they manifest contempt toward God.  Therefore, they will not go to heaven.
« Last Edit: Jan 07, 2011, 03:43 AM by mannyron »


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Reply #11 on: Jan 07, 2011, 04:48 AM
i can't absolutely say they won't go to heaven because, first, only God can judge who will and who won't; second, it is not a guarantee that when you "keep" the sabbath or  the 10 commandments in general you will go to heaven. the only way to enter heaven is by God's mercy and grace which we will receive only through faith, and never by the deeds of the Law.

the most appropriate question maybe would be - is it God's will that we obey the 10 commandments including the fourth? and, what would be the consequence if we deliberately/wilfully and continuously break God's commandments?


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Reply #12 on: Jan 07, 2011, 06:08 AM
i can't absolutely say they won't go to heaven because, first, only God can judge who will and who won't;

I understand that you don’t want to say they won't go to heaven because only God can judge.  But that’s not what I’m saying.  All Christians understand Ephesians 2:8,9 but at the same time  Christians must honor the Sabbath.  We both can find many supporting verses for this.  In short, because they dishonor the Sabbath and therefore they are going to hell. It’s not your words and not mine.  It’s the Bible’s.

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second, it is not a guarantee that when you "keep" the sabbath or  the 10 commandments in general you will go to heaven.

Like I said above  Ephesians 2:8,9 and the Sabbath.

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the only way to enter heaven is by God's mercy and grace which we will receive only through faith, and never by the deeds of the Law.

That’s an absurd misinterpretation of the bible’s god’s grace.  Ephesians 2:8,9  doesn’t give Christians a license to sin.  Christians must obey the Ten Commandments.  When they fall short, including the Sabbath, they should ask for god’s forgiveness in Jesus’ name.  It would be absurd for Christians to kill a person every week and ask god for forgiveness intending to kill again the week later and so on.  The same goes regarding Sabbath.

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the most appropriate question maybe would be - is it God's will that we obey the 10 commandments including the fourth?

Yes, and we both know that this is supported by the scripture throughout the Bible.

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and, what would be the consequence if we deliberately/wilfully and continuously break God's commandments?

We can both agree that ‘the wages of sin is death’.
« Last Edit: Jan 07, 2011, 06:09 AM by mannyron »


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Reply #13 on: Jan 08, 2011, 10:39 PM
^agree that the wages of sin is death, and that the grace of God does not bring us to breaking the law but to uphold it.

but I will always stress it out that salvation is not by works but by God's grace. because if we are saved by keeping God's law then no need for Jesus as the Savior. but the only way to salvation is the grace of God through faith.
however, this faith should bring us to obedience to His will and His laws. if not, then something is wrong with our faith. how can you be faithful to someone and despise His commandments?

I think all Christian agrees on faith, grace and obedience. There is only a slight problem on sabbath issue because each Christian denomination has its own interpretation of the Sabbath - which day and how it will be observed. for the other 9 commandments, all I think fully agrees that these should be faithfully obeyed by God's grace and not our own efforts.


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Reply #14 on: Jan 09, 2011, 02:07 AM
hay naku....god's grace?? what about your effort? Totally wasted..try mo nga Rds..wag magtrabaho..para malaman mo talaga kung bibigyan ka talaga ng biyaya ng dyos mo...challenge ko lang sa iyo..

Psychological slavery..that is religion/god..

and know what..everybody dies..nobody is exempted on this premise...nobody lives forever...
« Last Edit: Jan 09, 2011, 02:09 AM by mlangseth »


 


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