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on: Dec 14, 2010, 02:28 PM
Its about time to clear the air of whats going on :boxing:


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Reply #1 on: Dec 16, 2010, 11:52 PM
Subject: Update from WH

To all my investors,

 

As some of you might have already anticipated, things did not turned out to be as expected with regards to earning the funds needed for my promised payouts starting December 16 to January 12.  I've really worked hard but the short period of time I have become much difficult for me because of things I have to deal everyday with some investors. No you did not!!  Everytime you will be advised na pupuntahan ka sa office sinasabi mo na wala ka dun.  I can't blame them naman po since they have other obligations to fulfill and sa part ko naman nag-start 'ung problem. You're problem started when you stopped paying us.  It did not start when someone sent you a demand letter.  Are you dumb or what?  So all along pala bale wala sa iyo ung you owed Php 36 million.  Na it only became a problem when you were demanded to pa??!!!  I'm just saying na mahirap talaga mag-focus sa work if meron kang inaalala, kaya most of the time, I intentionally try to ignore my phone to stay focused sa work. I apologize if I can't attend or reply kaagad sa inyo.  Well you should.  It must be clear sa iyo na ikaw ang may atraso sa amin.  So everytime na may tatawag sa iyo or magti-text aba mahiya ka naman at sumagot.  You keep in mind na ang pagsagot mo sa calls namin or pag-textback is more than courtesy - it's your obligation given the situation.  And don't give us that crap na you want to focus kasi ang daming calls and SMS na di mo sinagot pero ano were you able to come up with the amount you need to pay us?  Di ba hindi rin??!!


I really want to fulfill my promised payout this December to January but I can't pay the total amount po, like most of you are expecting. I can only pay 10% of every investors' pending payouts until November 2010 for this payout. So yung ang investor na ang payable mo is 25k will only get 2500???  I hope you're not expecting gratitude for this act of benevolence and generosity.  Pasensya na po if ito pa lang maibigay ko as I really need more time and funds pa to increase my earnings. Tell us how much time do you really need.  Pang-ilang deadline or palugit na ba ang hiningi mo?  And how much capital ba ang kailangan mo?  I remember last Nov. 5 when you first met your investors.  Magkano ba ang capital pa na hawak mo nun na pinaikot mo and now naging Php 2.5 million na?  I doubt it walang milyon yun.  So now I want to know what changed at kailangan mo ng malaking capital?  I know may mga magagalit po and disappointed but gusto ko lang po sana mabigyan lahat ng investors ko kahit paano. Wow!  You sound like hoping ka pa din na may makakaintindi sa iyo?? Problem po is nasagad 'ung time ng unang withdrawal ng earnings since I have to maximize the earnings and mukhang hindi aabot tomorrow as advised sa akin. Instead payout schedule will start on December 20 and end on December 30. Ah yun naman pala.  All along akala ng mga investors when you said you started withdrawing ay para sa pay-out.  Yun pala for your use pa din pala.  Galing mo din ano?  Alam mo mas mayaman ka siguro if naging abugado ka.  You will give Sir Butch a run for his money.  And bakit Dec. 20 and not Dec. 16?  This time po, I'm not using an exchanger but the funds are coming from my relative's US bank account. Siguro naman walang masamang mangyayari sa relative mo.  Baka mamaya sasabihin mo na tinakbo ng sarili mong kamag-anak ang pera mo? I'll send the schedule of this payout later po on a different email. Schedule is still based sa napag-usapan na first-in-first-out sa pending, but 10% lang ng amount. Kindly email or text me your bank account details since I'll deposit po muna 'ung amount.


Anyway, totoo po na may nagpadala na sakin ng demand letter, you deserve it and of course I will take them seriously. But gusto ko lang din po malaman niyo na I'm planning to pay lahat ng utang ko sa investors nang fair sa lahat. Ano ba ang concept mo ng fair???  You don't need to send a demand letter para po unahin ko kayo mabayaran, unless po need ko talaga kayo unahin and hindi ko kayo inuna bayaran. Atty. Butch, who is also my investor is kind enough to offer his help for free. Being an investor, I believe he will definitely look at and weigh things na hindi malalagay sa alanganin ang investors. Don't count on it. Others may follow suit.  In the first place, I really intend to give back what I owe to investors.  I personally am starting to doubt this.  Puberer may be right after all.


Lastly po, I'm requesting po na magkaroon na po tayo ng new contract (what's the use of a new contract if you can't back it up with PDCs; you're so young and aspiring to be a business owner but sirang-sira na ang credit record mo?  ang bloodline of business is credit.)and terms for the remaining balance after December 30. I made the details of new terms I made below based po sa kakayin kong payouts next year by being much more realistic with my goals. I really apologize po, but since starting January next year ay maghahabol pa din ako, sa tingin ko po mahihirapan akong makabayad on time if itutuloy pa din 'ung old contract. Kakayanin naman po siguro pero honestly po, mahihirapan na po. If you have other terms, let me know po through email and tingnan ko po if kakayanin ko. But definitely po, I can only do it if hindi malayo sa terms na ginawa ko below. Also, email me your other concerns like late charges, checks, schedule, and others. During the Nov. 5 meeting I suggested na i-waive na ang penalty interest.  But for all the perwisyo you caused I think you should pay. Things changed.  If before we want to help you ngayon we want our money back and we don't care a bit about you or your business. Before po kayo mag-isip ng negative, kindly ask and email niyo po muna your concerns at baka naman po we can agree to meet halfway.


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Reply #2 on: Dec 16, 2010, 11:58 PM

^^what's this, another diversionary technics of yours? akala ko busy ka
sa business mo??kaya wala ka masyadong panahon dito sa PMT. Pero
grabe haba ng post mo! baka po nakalimutan mo mag-switch sa other
alternick mo...hehehe  :watchuthink:



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Reply #3 on: Dec 17, 2010, 12:17 AM
^ natumbok mo sir  :applause:



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Reply #4 on: Dec 17, 2010, 07:51 AM
Another one bites the dust???


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Reply #5 on: Dec 17, 2010, 08:17 AM
Wow, patapos na ang boksing, hindi ako napanood!

For us new to this news, what was the business model of Whitehat nga ba?


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Reply #6 on: Dec 17, 2010, 09:35 AM
Wow, patapos na ang boksing, hindi ako napanood!

For us new to this news, what was the business model of Whitehat nga ba?

hayaan mo, sir, may isa pang boksing na parating, ibang contender naman. hintayin mo lang po. unless mag-default ang kalaban.


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Reply #7 on: Dec 17, 2010, 08:42 PM
This is another lame excuses from whitehat...  :bahalaka:


Subject: Update from WH

To all my investors,

 

As some of you might have already anticipated, things did not turned out to be as expected with regards to earning the funds needed for my promised payouts starting December 16 to January 12.  I've really worked hard but the short period of time I have become much difficult for me because of things I have to deal everyday with some investors. No you did not!!  Everytime you will be advised na pupuntahan ka sa office sinasabi mo na wala ka dun.  I can't blame them naman po since they have other obligations to fulfill and sa part ko naman nag-start 'ung problem. You're problem started when you stopped paying us.  It did not start when someone sent you a demand letter.  Are you dumb or what?  So all along pala bale wala sa iyo ung you owed Php 36 million.  Na it only became a problem when you were demanded to pa??!!!  I'm just saying na mahirap talaga mag-focus sa work if meron kang inaalala, kaya most of the time, I intentionally try to ignore my phone to stay focused sa work. I apologize if I can't attend or reply kaagad sa inyo.  Well you should.  It must be clear sa iyo na ikaw ang may atraso sa amin.  So everytime na may tatawag sa iyo or magti-text aba mahiya ka naman at sumagot.  You keep in mind na ang pagsagot mo sa calls namin or pag-textback is more than courtesy - it's your obligation given the situation.  And don't give us that crap na you want to focus kasi ang daming calls and SMS na di mo sinagot pero ano were you able to come up with the amount you need to pay us?  Di ba hindi rin??!!


I really want to fulfill my promised payout this December to January but I can't pay the total amount po, like most of you are expecting. I can only pay 10% of every investors' pending payouts until November 2010 for this payout. So yung ang investor na ang payable mo is 25k will only get 2500???  I hope you're not expecting gratitude for this act of benevolence and generosity.  Pasensya na po if ito pa lang maibigay ko as I really need more time and funds pa to increase my earnings. Tell us how much time do you really need.  Pang-ilang deadline or palugit na ba ang hiningi mo?  And how much capital ba ang kailangan mo?  I remember last Nov. 5 when you first met your investors.  Magkano ba ang capital pa na hawak mo nun na pinaikot mo and now naging Php 2.5 million na?  I doubt it walang milyon yun.  So now I want to know what changed at kailangan mo ng malaking capital?  I know may mga magagalit po and disappointed but gusto ko lang po sana mabigyan lahat ng investors ko kahit paano. Wow!  You sound like hoping ka pa din na may makakaintindi sa iyo?? Problem po is nasagad 'ung time ng unang withdrawal ng earnings since I have to maximize the earnings and mukhang hindi aabot tomorrow as advised sa akin. Instead payout schedule will start on December 20 and end on December 30. Ah yun naman pala.  All along akala ng mga investors when you said you started withdrawing ay para sa pay-out.  Yun pala for your use pa din pala.  Galing mo din ano?  Alam mo mas mayaman ka siguro if naging abugado ka.  You will give Sir Butch a run for his money.  And bakit Dec. 20 and not Dec. 16?  This time po, I'm not using an exchanger but the funds are coming from my relative's US bank account. Siguro naman walang masamang mangyayari sa relative mo.  Baka mamaya sasabihin mo na tinakbo ng sarili mong kamag-anak ang pera mo? I'll send the schedule of this payout later po on a different email. Schedule is still based sa napag-usapan na first-in-first-out sa pending, but 10% lang ng amount. Kindly email or text me your bank account details since I'll deposit po muna 'ung amount.


Anyway, totoo po na may nagpadala na sakin ng demand letter, you deserve it and of course I will take them seriously. But gusto ko lang din po malaman niyo na I'm planning to pay lahat ng utang ko sa investors nang fair sa lahat. Ano ba ang concept mo ng fair???  You don't need to send a demand letter para po unahin ko kayo mabayaran, unless po need ko talaga kayo unahin and hindi ko kayo inuna bayaran. Atty. Butch, who is also my investor is kind enough to offer his help for free. Being an investor, I believe he will definitely look at and weigh things na hindi malalagay sa alanganin ang investors. Don't count on it. Others may follow suit.  In the first place, I really intend to give back what I owe to investors.  I personally am starting to doubt this.  Puberer may be right after all.


Lastly po, I'm requesting po na magkaroon na po tayo ng new contract (what's the use of a new contract if you can't back it up with PDCs; you're so young and aspiring to be a business owner but sirang-sira na ang credit record mo?  ang bloodline of business is credit.)and terms for the remaining balance after December 30. I made the details of new terms I made below based po sa kakayin kong payouts next year by being much more realistic with my goals. I really apologize po, but since starting January next year ay maghahabol pa din ako, sa tingin ko po mahihirapan akong makabayad on time if itutuloy pa din 'ung old contract. Kakayanin naman po siguro pero honestly po, mahihirapan na po. If you have other terms, let me know po through email and tingnan ko po if kakayanin ko. But definitely po, I can only do it if hindi malayo sa terms na ginawa ko below. Also, email me your other concerns like late charges, checks, schedule, and others. During the Nov. 5 meeting I suggested na i-waive na ang penalty interest.  But for all the perwisyo you caused I think you should pay. Things changed.  If before we want to help you ngayon we want our money back and we don't care a bit about you or your business. Before po kayo mag-isip ng negative, kindly ask and email niyo po muna your concerns at baka naman po we can agree to meet halfway.
« Last Edit: Dec 17, 2010, 08:45 PM by tops5450 »


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Reply #8 on: Dec 18, 2010, 06:19 AM
Subject: Update from WH

To all my investors,

 
I can only pay 10% of every investors' pending payouts until November 2010 for this payout.

kelan kaya matatapos ang bayaran kung ganyan ang bayaran? 

mas ok pa ma delay ng 3 months basta bayad. 

kawawa ang may malalaking investment.  sa interest palang ng pera, binarya na, what more pa sa principal. 


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Reply #9 on: Dec 18, 2010, 08:38 PM
Sukatin mo ba naman magbigay ng kinse porsentos. ayus lang yan siguro kung sya ang may ari ng facebook hehe. pero hinde e. phaseout dot engot lang ata ang alam nitong gawin.

Post Merge: Dec 18, 2010, 08:43 PM
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kelan kaya matatapos ang bayaran kung ganyan ang bayaran? 

mas ok pa ma delay ng 3 months basta bayad. 

kawawa ang may malalaking investment.  sa interest palang ng pera, binarya na, what more pa sa principal. 

ha bayaran? baka ten percent out of the 10 percent of the 10% ang ibig netong sabhin!
« Last Edit: Dec 18, 2010, 08:43 PM by Ekimoink »


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Reply #10 on: Dec 18, 2010, 09:24 PM
@ sixminutestosuccess

mam, kamusta na po?  kelan po meeting ng coop?   :hello:


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Reply #11 on: Dec 18, 2010, 09:29 PM
Siya ba talaga yang gumagamit ng alternick? What's the motive?
Ska is there any proof to support this?
Any information to support is gladly appreciated...


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Reply #12 on: Dec 19, 2010, 12:28 AM
Siya ba talaga yang gumagamit ng alternick? What's the motive?
Ska is there any proof to support this?
Any information to support is gladly appreciated...

para mag mura siguro.

check mo nalang kung saan saan nagpupunta ang taong eto.

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Reply #13 on: Dec 19, 2010, 01:37 PM
Inconsistent nga mga posts nya..meron sya post dun na sabi nya wla syang investment sa PMT kasi may sarili syang business...tapos later part ng posts marami daw syang investments at nagbanggit pa ng mga pangalan ng investees.. But what I want to know is any proof na makapaglink sa dalawang accounts as one person.. Meron ba makapagpatunay na iisang tao lang talaga sila...Meron din akong napansin sa ilang mga posts nya the way the sentences are structured it seemed that babae ang nagsusulat.. lalo na yung isang post dun na merong word sa dulo na "Hello?" .. Babae lang ang nagsusulat ng ganyan (maliban kung binabae sya ) :)


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Reply #14 on: Dec 19, 2010, 08:43 PM
Meron din akong napansin sa ilang mga posts nya the way the sentences are structured it seemed that babae ang nagsusulat.. lalo na yung isang post dun na merong word sa dulo na "Hello?" .. Babae lang ang nagsusulat ng ganyan (maliban kung binabae sya ) :)

^ natumbok mo sir  :hello:

kita mo naman, hinahamon pa ako ng suntukan.   :hihi:


 


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