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Rhythm method vs artificial contraception

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Si Mary P ang dahilan kung bakit puro kalyo ang kamay ng karamihan ng male OFWs sa Middle East.


Ayos! Dapat kasi maglotion muna.  :rofl:


rexmadrigal

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Kawawa ang mga pobre na pag gabi eh wala na ilaw. You juct can't imagine how on earth can they still do it with 6 kids beside them.


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That's the whole point that's why I posted the topic. It is so frustrating for priests in the catholic church insisting on rhythm method and yet majority, even the educated ones had problems in interpreting this method.

This method nga was only adopted by them and now we are faced with the issue about celibacy amongst priests. I know quite a few priests who had families kay they can't say na Santo talaga.

The 7 days before and after is obsolete.

And come to think of it, kung OFW ka and your for a short vacation, don't tell me pag inabutan ng ovulation eh your not going to do it.


Why would you pay attention to what Catholic priests say about contraception.  They are totally  ignorant about al matters when it comes to relationships


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I'm a married catholic. I do know what the rhythm or natural method is because I researched about it during my younger days. It was also discussed during our pre-cana seminar. For those who don't know, that's one requirement of the Catholic church before getting married. Additionally, we were also "lectured" about this at the city hall when we applied for our marriage license.

Now, my question is: Do people know the spirit behind this practice? (just like in law where the underlying rationale of the law needs to be understood)


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For me, the seminar is not that important.  The outcome of the relationship will all depend on how partners value, love and respect each other and not because of the seminar.  

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i don't care if i its rhythm or artificial.  as long as its effective.   :watchuthink:


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Thanks Puberer for bringing up the concepts of Value, Love and Respect. It is true that the NFP is dependent on these as well as other things. Let's also not forget, if one got married in a Catholic or christian ceremony, there is a third Person in that marriage, it's God. Now, can we say we value, respect and love God if we use something that He did not command us to use?


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Na curious tuloy ako sa topic na 'to although single palang ako madalas ko marinig to sa mga usapan ng mag-asawa or kahit nung mga single na may syota ;)

Btw, dahil sa curiousity napa wikipedia tuloy ako.. based sa wikipedia yung Rhythm Method was really introduced my Catholic Church to promote NFP (Natural Family Planning) program way back years ago pa. Kaso karamihan ng health teachers eh sinasabing obsolete na yung rhythm method for at least 20 years ago pa.

Meron isang method na tinatawag Standard Days Method na mas accurate with perfect-use failure rate of 5% per year against sa Rhythm method na 9%. Ang limitation nga lang nito, applicable lang sya pag ung menstrual cycle ng babae is ALWAYS between 26-32  days. Wherein ito ang guidelines: Magstart ka ng bilang after the day ng last redspot wherein the day after ng last redspot is the Day 1.

Days 1-7 of a woman's menstrual cycle are considered infertile
Days 8-19 are considered fertile
From Day 20 onwards before the next redspot, infertility is considered to resume

Just sharing sa ngayon... masubukan in the future.... hehehe

Based on this bale merong total of 18-19 days si mister para makatalik si misis wherein safe kahit magpasabog sa loob. Meron namang 12 days na hindi pwede or pwede naman pero kailangan nya ng Withdrawal Method or Artificial Contraception... tsk...tsk...tsk... Eh ayon sa isang nabasa ko na study, dapat meron at least 22 ejeculations per month para makaiwas ang lalaki sa prostate cancer..... So kung sakali pala may utang kang 3-4 days per month .. So possibility is mas iiksi ang lifespan mo dahil maging prone ka sa prostate cancer.. Hhhhmmmm... Mary Palmer .... where are you?  :D

OT na Tanong: May report pa about sa statistics ng mga PARI na nagkaka prostate cancer?
« Last Edit: Oct 18, 2010, 06:37 PM by Dodong_Pobre »


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Quote
OT na Tanong: May report pa about sa statistics ng mga PARI na nagkaka prostate cancer?

hehehehe.


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@dodong - hindi ka naman limited sa isang ejaculation per day


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I'll probably get flak for this but, do you know that the Torah( which I read and it is almost the same as the Old Testament- somebody told me it is the Old Testament) has a directive on the sexual relations of man and wife? The only thing is, it is a directive to maximize population explosion (the go forth and multiply kind). There is a time of the month when the husband and wife should  treat each other like brother and sister- totally without lust, because the wife is "unclean", the menstrual period. The sexual relations resume when the wife is most likely to become pregnant. And that is why the Orthodox Jews have 8-15 children. Menopause lang ang pahinga ng mga nanay.  I suppose, the church advocates the opposite for population control. See? The religious are hyprocrites. That there is going against the word Of God.

Personally, I would like the church to tell its congregation that dropping kids they can't decently raise is immoral. Eh di mas konti na ang attendance ng mga taong nagdadasal na manalo sa lotto?

Relying on timing and sexual beings like humans is not reliable. I daresay, make 2 or three provisions to prevent pregnancy. The fear of God does not even deter us, and yet the church put the burden of control on us?

It is unti-poor, but putting a cap on how often, how much and how frequent we can avail of social services might also work as a deterrent. After the third child, "free" public school education will not be totally free and the 4th and 5th child will be paying more. Hospitalization benefits, tax cuts, scholarships (I know of a couple who have 5 intelligent children. All of them went to UP, from grade school to college-all on academic scholarships).

I am sure it will take a long time for this to take root in our consciousness, but it can happen. The BIR is doing this to us already. How many dependents can you use to take exemptions for tax purposes?






« Last Edit: Oct 19, 2010, 11:13 AM by freefront »


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@freefront

Maximum of 4 children lang ang allowed sa tax exemption. If both parents are working, pwede nila hatiin ang exemptions. Tig 50K kada anak ang exemption. Automatic 50K naman irregardless of civil status... pwede apply ang parent/s na 60 and above pero dapat head of the family ang declaration at 25K per parent.
« Last Edit: Oct 19, 2010, 02:57 PM by Dodong_Pobre »


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Me isang OFW at everytime umuwi siya nakakabuo lagi kasi nga ineffective itong +-7 sa kanila.

After their 10th baby, ng umuwi ulit si OFW nagsuot siya ng condom. Ng makita ng misis niya sabi "Ano naman yang mga natutunan mo na iyan ? Tanggalin mo yan!".

Ani OFW, "Eh kasi naman 10 anak natin nahihirapan na rin ako sa pag suporta sa kanila."

Sagot ni misis, "Hindi pwede, tanggalin mo yan! Ikaw ba naman ang pakainin ng saging na me balat!".   :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
Ayos! :D :D ;D


 


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