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on: Dec 16, 2009, 09:12 PM
Anybody from this site ever heard of create abundance or ca2020?  Have entered there module or there cashflow workshop and was able to become a coach.

Well  I was able to join some of there meeting, the game the modules, but I never get to become a coach.  But my GS classmate who invited me there insisted me to become a coach and keep on recruiting.  Until I got fed up and said to him "why the hell do I want to become a coach in your community I have no idea what you guys are doing on the inside, I don't know the benefit of a coach aside from having a meeting all the time and worst part is what your other coach in the module is teaching me are either things I already know or read!"  >:(

Then after this conversation he eventually told me about what they do.  Apparently they should are not allowed to divulge any information on how they really earn.  BUt I guess my classmate is eager to have a new recruit.  According to them they are into MLM some people told me it's NU skin also they have a real estate business so on and so on.  I have nothing against MLM, but keeping it a secret and later on finding out about it is worst than letting a person decide what type of business he wants.

But the real question for me there was they claim they are a business community, but they don't allow business deal or advertising on there website, not allowed to give of calling cards during a cashflow session and alot of things are not allowed in there community it's like they just want me to join there exclusive MLM but not to increase the network of people I know.  

Well over all there vision is great naman "To create a first world Philippines by the year 2020" but I don't know how they plan to do that all I can see is by 2020 alot of Filipino are whiter because of there NU skin line of soap product.  We'll be looking like caucasians not asians anymore!!! :D Maybe that is there plan for us to look caucasians so we're considered first world since alot of first world country are inhabited by caucasians.  

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Reply #1 on: Dec 16, 2009, 10:10 PM


Well over all there vision is great naman "To create a first world Philippines by the year 2020" but I don't know how they plan to do that all I can see is by 2020 alot of Filipino are whiter because of there NU skin line of soap product.  We'll be looking like caucasians not asians anymore!!! :D Maybe that is there plan for us to look caucasians so we're considered first world since alot of first world country are inhabited by caucasians.  




Now that's funny!


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Reply #2 on: Dec 16, 2009, 10:31 PM

Anybody from this site ever heard of create abundance or ca2020?  Have entered there module or there cashflow workshop and was able to become a coach.

Well  I was able to join some of there meeting, the game the modules, but I never get to become a coach.  But my GS classmate who invited me there insisted me to become a coach and keep on recruiting.  Until I got fed up and said to him "why the hell do I want to become a coach in your community I have no idea what you guys are doing on the inside, I don't know the benefit of a coach aside from having a meeting all the time and worst part is what your other coach in the module is teaching me are either things I already know or read!"  >:(

Then after this conversation he eventually told me about what they do.  Apparently they should are not allowed to divulge any information on how they really earn.  BUt I guess my classmate is eager to have a new recruit.  According to them they are into MLM some people told me it's NU skin also they have a real estate business so on and so on.  I have nothing against MLM, but keeping it a secret and later on finding out about it is worst than letting a person decide what type of business he wants.

But the real question for me there was they claim they are a business community, but they don't allow business deal or advertising on there website, not allowed to give of calling cards during a cashflow session and alot of things are not allowed in there community it's like they just want me to join there exclusive MLM but not to increase the network of people I know.  

Well over all there vision is great naman "To create a first world Philippines by the year 2020" but I don't know how they plan to do that all I can see is by 2020 alot of Filipino are whiter because of there NU skin line of soap product.  We'll be looking like caucasians not asians anymore!!! :D Maybe that is there plan for us to look caucasians so we're considered first world since alot of first world country are inhabited by caucasians.  




Is that so  :think:


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Reply #3 on: Dec 17, 2009, 09:04 AM
Ah ganun pala sa Create Abundance.....ang issue ko naman dito...nag register ako sa boplanet.com...aba, ang daming nag a add sa akin, naisip ko...ang dami ko palang friends na hindi ko kilala hehehe...nung chineck ko yung site...puro pala sila Create Abundance...ano ba yan!

Pero open naman ako na mag attend ng mga ganito..gusto ko lang makinig (sa una, makikinig ka lang naman talaga)pero sa next phase na kailangan ko na mag shell out ng cash or kailangan ko na mag recruit....wala na..out na ako...

So far ang na attenan ko pa lang ay IMG and Amway

There are just some people who are not fit for MLMs. It's not for everyone


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Reply #4 on: Dec 17, 2009, 09:13 AM
Sabi ni piameg, hindi raw nuskin ang ca2020.  So, ano ba talaga ang totoo?  Who is lying?

As to mlm, I guess it is fine, if you're one of the first.  Someone I know was one of the ones who launched amway in the phil.  As in she rented ballrooms full of people to introduce it.  So ngayon, she doesn't work anymore, and gets free trips to anywhere in the world!


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Reply #5 on: Dec 17, 2009, 01:40 PM

hi rp, kasi ang financial education na offer namin is not nu skin. The spreading of financial literacy is how we will get our mission of first world philippines. The changing of poor mindset to a rich mindset is the key. Thats only our charity side. You can finish our wealth course modules and Im 100% sure you wont be recruited in our core team. Marami na nakatapos ng 3 modules namin and ask them if they are part of create abundance? :) Nope, marami na rin akong naging invites they just finish the modules and greatly benefited from it.

If you want to get to the core team which means you want to be part of create abundance, then thats a different story. We have panel interviews and a module only given for those wanting to join us. It just means that not all can be part of our group. We filter people who can only join our exclusive core team. We even reject a lot who wanted to join the core if they dont have the qualities we are looking for. So dont be afraid of attending our free seminar for fear of being recruited to be part of our core team.
 
We only accept leaders in the core, if retailer ka lang or gusto magbenta then retailer ka na lang but we will not let you join the core team. Dun ka lang sa Nu Skin business namin but not Create Abundance. The beauty skin company is just one of our businesses.

It is a business community, hence the people inside are business minded. We dont allow advertisements in our exclusive website because that website is only for financial education. We dont allow scammers there kasi you have to put your real picture there when you get in our website http://www.ca2020.com.

You can advertise your products in our other sites like our real estate website if real estate ang gusto nyo ibenta. Its pren2020.ning.com.  Now if other business ideas naman, we have businessideas.ning.com. There are proper venues for each advertisements kasi. The exchange of business cards can be done after the events, not during the events so you will be properly focused on what you are doing at the moment which is the wealth course or the cash flow.

Now with regards to the cash flow game, why is ours different? Because we have a dedicated moderator and banker for each set of players that can guide you with better insights as you play the game. During our cashflow mind gathering which is once a month, there will be a sharing of insights on how can we as a team of Filipinos make our country better.
Posted on: Dec 17, 2009, 01:06 PM
About mlm, yes not everyone is fit for that, even me hehe :)


I appreciate that now we have a complete picture!

Ako, sanay sa complete disclosure from the onset of any business.

I guess kanyakanyang istylo lang yan.

Anyway, I hope your group succeeds in teaching financial education...with no strings attached.


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Reply #6 on: Dec 17, 2009, 02:08 PM
Thanks sa explanation mo Piameg..I might attend your modules next year kasi sabi mo pwede namang mag attend na hindi magiging part ng create abundance

Pero may question ako..bakit may bayad na 200 php ang Cashflow 101 ng Create Abundance...bakit sa PMT, libre lang? Kung ang aim niyo ay mag provide ng financial education..bakit kailangang may bayad or is the bayad covers the food na kakainin mo doon sa resto?

Pwede bang mag attend ng modules na hindi nag aattend ng Cashflow 101 niyo? Kasi yung Cashflow..sa PMT ko ita take yun


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Reply #7 on: Dec 17, 2009, 02:41 PM


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Reply #8 on: Dec 17, 2009, 02:51 PM


One question pala Piameg the last time I was there I get to meet and talk with different coach and they keep on telling me they'll be retiring in 3 years from now which is 2012 or 2013 which is kinda exciting.  But I never dare to ask them on HOW they plan to do it kasi baka banatan nanaman ako na mag coach na kasi ako.    



I wonder what they will doing after retirement?


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Reply #9 on: Dec 17, 2009, 03:26 PM




Ah ganun pala! kinda went to defensive mode na when I ask my friend about the true intention of the community and how they claim to be earning 50k to 500k per month for just being a coach.  Which they keep on saying to me "mag module 3 na ako or maging coach na ako para malaman ko" kaya I kinda became aloof to them.  

Nways the module were fine they were teaching about T. Harv Secrets of the Millionaire MInd and R. Kiyosaki's teaching.  The changing of the mindset and all the reason why we have to be rich and money jars.

One question pala Piameg the last time I was there I get to meet and talk with different coach and they keep on telling me they'll be retiring in 3 years from now which is 2012 or 2013 which is kinda exciting.  But I never dare to ask them on HOW they plan to do it kasi baka banatan nanaman ako na mag coach na kasi ako.    

And lastly why does some of the coaches thinks MF is risky compared to stock market trading in your community which kinda bothers me alot, kasi I have a MF though I haven't been to real stocks yet pero through my reading well loses is greater in the SM than MF.  Hope you could give us some insight or clarity w/ regards to this query... :D


Doc, maybe you can answer a question that has been really bugging me for so long.  Is there really a successful coach among them?  Are there any rags to riches stories among these coaches?  Yun kasi ang hirit nila eh.  That the rest of us are doing the wrong thing and their method is proven.  Kindly share with us some names of these successful people and the cause of their success...and if possible, how much they make and what is their networth?  Eh kung nasa P100M area na sila, eh di sasali na kaming lahat ba!


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Reply #10 on: Dec 17, 2009, 04:22 PM

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And lastly why does some of the coaches thinks MF is risky compared to stock market trading in your community which kinda bothers me alot...

when someone says 'xxxx is risky', i think it's either he has a bad experience with it or he has ZERO to little knowledge of it.

risk is subjective: depende ang pananaw at experience ng bawat tao.


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Reply #12 on: Dec 17, 2009, 05:37 PM
^Just my personal opinion, if that coach of yours is decided to retire in 2 ~ 3 years, I guess he is not in the same level as H. Sy, J. Gokongwei, the Aboitz's etc. Because if you would notice, these people, although ultra rich already, are still very much active in their own businesses.


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Reply #13 on: Dec 17, 2009, 06:10 PM
Exactly, those people are working harder than before, the different is they enjoy what they are doing. :thumbsup2


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