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on: Jun 12, 2009, 11:23 AM
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Reply #1 on: Jun 12, 2009, 04:00 PM
Any day I presume,,,as long as you really dedicate it for HIM and HIM Alone,,, :applause:

cheers... :cool2:


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Reply #2 on: Apr 14, 2011, 08:12 AM

Quote from: akoni on Apr 12, 2011, 12:44 PM
you're the one who claimed that they are the true church manny, then you
have to provide any reference,the burden of proof is yours manny.huwag mong
ilihis ang usapan. di ka maka provide kasi wala.


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Maybe you missed my answer.  Here it is again:

 ‘Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.  Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:  But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:  For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.’  --Exodus 20:8-11

If you’re wondering what kind of reference Exodus 20:8-11 is
it came from the book I asked you to read in the other thread.  
Read it from cover to cover without speculating.

Quote from: akoni on Apr 12, 2011, 12:44 PM
sabbath na naman? tapos na natin na discuss yan ah,back read ka nalang my
friend.hirap naman paulit-ulit,nakapagod magtype.ayaw mo lang tumanggap eh.


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Yes we did discuss Sabbath and you tried your best to
prove that Sabbath is now Sunday and not Saturday.  
You did this by quoting a scripture and then speculating.  
When I pointed that you are speculating you gave up
and disappeared to the peanut gallery.


dito ko nalang copy/paste ni mannyron para hindi ma off topic kami sa kabilang thread, may dating thread pala dito tungkol sa sabbath.

ok, lets start my friend mannyron,


sino ang nag speculate mannyron? baka ikaw kasi  sa verse na nilagay mo
walang sinabi dyan na ang sabbath is sabado lang talaga. malinaw dyan sinabi kapitong araw lang.

The term sabbath comes from the Hebrew root abat, which means "to cease, rest."

walang spicific day dyan na ang unang araw ay sunday at pang pito ay saturday. may mga bibliya
ngayon na nagsalin ang sabbath ay satuday kasi binasi nila sa gregorian calendar na santo papa ang
nagpagawa at nagpatibay na kung saan sunday ang unang araw at saturday ang ikapitong araw.

malinaw na hindi sinabi nang biblia o verse na binigay mo na ang dapat sundan nang bilang ay ang gregorian
calendar o anumang calendario. kaya mali na gamitin itong batayan kung ano ang una at ikapitong araw.
hindi itinuro nang Dios o nang Propeta o Hesukristo na.." ang ikapitong araw ay sabado ayon sa Gregorian Calendar".

« Last Edit: Apr 14, 2011, 08:47 AM by akoni »


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Reply #3 on: Apr 14, 2011, 08:58 AM
Akoni, i agree with you...But as Christian I observed Sunday as my Sabbath because it is on this day that the LORD is risen from the dead. Without Resurrection my faith in Jesus is in vain. I worked from Monday thru Saturday then on Sunday go to church.

Sabbath day is not Saturday or any day in the calendar, it is not a name of the day as we see it in our calendar. Sabbath means rest/pahinga.

Saturday is named after planet Saturn.


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Reply #4 on: Apr 14, 2011, 06:43 PM
Sunday - my Sabbath

pero dun sa worldslastchance - eto ba yung nag aadvocate ng May 21 2011?


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Reply #5 on: Apr 16, 2011, 07:06 AM
dito ko nalang copy/paste ni mannyron para hindi ma off topic kami sa kabilang thread, may dating thread pala dito tungkol sa sabbath.

ok, lets start my friend mannyron,
Thank you for being my friend.

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sino ang nag speculate mannyron?

You.

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baka ikaw kasi  sa verse na nilagay mo
walang sinabi dyan na ang sabbath is sabado lang talaga. malinaw dyan sinabi kapitong araw lang.

An excuse to speculate.

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The term sabbath comes from the Hebrew root abat, which means "to cease, rest."

Nice to know but irrelevant.

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walang spicific day dyan na ang unang araw ay sunday at pang pito ay saturday. may mga bibliya

Do you like repeating yourself?

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ngayon na nagsalin ang sabbath ay satuday kasi binasi nila sa gregorian calendar na santo papa ang
nagpagawa at nagpatibay na kung saan sunday ang unang araw at saturday ang ikapitong araw.

Is that pope infallible like RATzinger? Get it?

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malinaw na hindi sinabi nang biblia o verse na binigay mo na ang dapat sundan nang bilang ay ang gregorian
calendar o anumang calendario. kaya mali na gamitin itong batayan kung ano ang una at ikapitong araw.
hindi itinuro nang Dios o nang Propeta o Hesukristo na.." ang ikapitong araw ay sabado ayon sa Gregorian Calendar".

Here’s the simple truth. 
Jewish people, since the Ten Commandments was proclaimed and even today,
keeps the Sabbath holy, which is Saturday.


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Reply #6 on: Apr 16, 2011, 08:10 AM
Thank you for being my friend.
You.
An excuse to speculate.
Nice to know but irrelevant.
Do you like repeating yourself?
Is that pope infallible like RATzinger? Get it?
hahaha!!! hindi ito ang inasahan kung discussion mula sa iyo mannyron, wala pa rin palang
nagbago, mahihirapan ka talaga mannyron kapag hindi mo  doktrina at ginagamit mo, baka
makita kapa nang SDA dito tapos hindi mo binigyan nang hustisya ang doktrina nila.

hindi po ba speculation is a message expressing an opinion based on incomplete evidence, now malinaw
sa binigay mong verse walang saturday dyan, sino ngayon sa atin ang nag speculate, ikaw ang nagbigay
nang verse na yan at sinundan lang kita.

ratzinger? bakit napasok si pope sa usapang ito mannyron, evading the issue kana naman. :hihi:

alam ko naman gusto mong mangyari manny kaya lagi mong inu ulit-ulit at pinagyayabang ang sabbath
dahil gusto mo kaming mga believers ay magka karambola dito dahil sa doktrina, malas kalang wala si
RDS dito na tutulong sa iyo nyan. tatlong araw yata bago ka nag reply nito, ibinigay ko na ang link di ka
parin sumagot.

Here’s the simple truth.  
Jewish people, since the Ten Commandments was proclaimed and even today,
keeps the Sabbath holy, which is Saturday.
resolbahin mo muna yong sabbath mo na saturday talaga ang meaning  saka mo na sabihin sa amin na na violate namin
yang sabbath sa ten commandments.
« Last Edit: Apr 16, 2011, 11:06 AM by akoni »


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Reply #7 on: Apr 16, 2011, 08:33 AM
Saturday.
Friday sa Muslim tsaka National Geographic.
Sunday sa iba.
Ewan ko kung meron pang iba.


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Reply #8 on: Apr 16, 2011, 08:55 AM
@freefront. yap totoo yan, kaya parang pangit na sabihin ,mali ang nag observed nang sunday sabbath kasi kailangan saturday, malinaw sa verse(Exodus 20:8-11)na binigay niya walang specific day kung ano ang firstday para malaman natin ang 7th day, ang nilagay lang 6 days work then 7th day  pahinga, then walang violation kasi nag observed din naman tayo nang sabbath. ang importante dyan nagbahagi ka nang isang special na araw sa Dios, mga kristiyano sunday kasi mula pa noon sa time ni Hesus Sunday lagi ang kanilang pagtitipon, resurrection sunday din(Lord's Day) kaya yan narin sinusunod nating mga kristiyano na nag observed nang sunday sabbath.


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Reply #9 on: Apr 16, 2011, 11:05 PM
wala akong Sabbath day...pero off ako every weekend..and I work only few hours a day..most of my time are devoted to my charity and projects in the Philippines...KALOKOHAN ang SABBATH from the bible..sorry..guys..why observe something that has been practiced few thousand years ago? Even Lenten season, etc...no significance for me and all ATHEISTS..we eat meat and have fun on those days...why sacrifice your life?

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« Last Edit: Apr 16, 2011, 11:07 PM by mlangseth »


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Reply #10 on: Apr 17, 2011, 03:43 AM
resolbahin mo muna yong sabbath mo na saturday talaga ang meaning  saka mo na sabihin sa amin na na violate namin
yang sabbath sa ten commandments.


You just cannot accept that you’re going to hell
that’s why you can’t accept the truth, in this case a simple truth. 
Here it is again, the simple truth.

Jewish people, ever since the Ten Commandments was proclaimed and even today,
keeps the Sabbath holy, which is Saturday.


That is a fact. 
It will not change no matter how many altar boys
are raped by priests and how many times RATzinger covers them up.


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Reply #11 on: Apr 17, 2011, 09:45 AM
@ mannyron, sigi na nga tatantanan na kita dyan alam kong hindi mo kaya yan eh!! :hihi:
nakikita ko sa mga sagot mong desperate kana at kung ano-ano nalang sinisingit para lang
makawala. :hihi:

now para makabawi ka, ganito nalang... tanggapin ko yang saturday mo, ok?

alam mo ba na ang unang araw ay sabbath din(first day of the week)

Levitico 23:7 "Sa UNANG ARAW ay magkakaroon ng banal na pagpupulong: anomang gawang paglilingkod ay huwag ninyong gagawin."

sabbath din ang first day of the month....

Levitico 23:24 Salitain mo sa mga anak ni Israel, na iyong sabihin, Sa ikapitong buwan, sa UNANG ARAW NG BUWAN, ay magkakaroon kayo ng takdang kapahingahan, na pinakaalaalang may tunog ng mga pakakak banal na pagpupulong nga.

kaya palpak yang claim mo na ang sabbath ay saturday lang talaga kasi sa iba-ibang araw pumapatak ang first day of the month. :hihi:
ang sunod kung tanong sa iyo, sa ibinigay mong verse(Exodus 20:8-11) kasama ba ang hentil dyan?
« Last Edit: Apr 17, 2011, 10:19 AM by akoni »


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Reply #12 on: Apr 18, 2011, 03:18 AM
@ mannyron, sigi na nga tatantanan na kita dyan alam kong hindi mo kaya yan eh!! nakikita ko sa mga sagot mong desperate kana at kung ano-ano nalang sinisingit para lang makawala. now para makabawi ka, ganito nalang... tanggapin ko yang saturday mo, ok?

This would have been a mediocre face saving move while struggling to swallow the bitter truth
but you dug yourself deeper in your following comments.

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alam mo ba na ang unang araw ay sabbath din(first day of the week)
Levitico 23:7 "Sa UNANG ARAW ay magkakaroon ng banal na pagpupulong: anomang gawang paglilingkod ay huwag ninyong gagawin."

sabbath din ang first day of the month....
Levitico 23:24 Salitain mo sa mga anak ni Israel, na iyong sabihin, Sa ikapitong buwan, sa UNANG ARAW NG BUWAN, ay magkakaroon kayo ng takdang kapahingahan, na pinakaalaalang may tunog ng mga pakakak banal na pagpupulong nga.
kaya palpak yang claim mo na ang sabbath ay saturday lang talaga kasi sa iba-ibang araw pumapatak ang first day of the month.

Did you read the verses before that?  You know like verse 3.
Where did you get the talent of being desperate and pathetic at the same time?

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ang sunod kung tanong sa iyo, sa ibinigay mong verse(Exodus 20:8-11) kasama ba ang hentil dyan?

Now you cherry pick. 
This is what happens when you read the bible following a denominational map. 
In your case the Catholic map under the infamous RATzinger. 
Some priests are so misguided about this ‘cherry picking’
that they ‘pop the cherries’ of helpless little boys
and RATzinger covered them up.


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Reply #13 on: Apr 18, 2011, 06:18 AM
hahaha!!!  wala pa rin mga sagot mo mannyron, pinagbigyan na nga kita hindi ka parin makasunod sa simpleng
discussion. mag post ka dapat ng mga verse dito na nagpapatunay nang claim mo na sabbath is saturday lang talaga, ilang beses ko nang sinira yan, pinag bigyan na kita, tinanong pa kita kung kasama ba ang hentil sa covenant na iyan pero hanggang ngayon walang maisagot. :hihi:

sigi na nga tatantanan na kita dito, k ingat ka nalang. :thankyou:

« Last Edit: Apr 18, 2011, 07:54 AM by akoni »


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Reply #14 on: Apr 19, 2011, 06:36 AM
Now that’s more like it. 
It’s not graceful but it’s a way out.


 


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