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Bale may Cap Pension Plan ako na kinuha ko way back 1997. I paid it for 5 years of around 30K and waited for 5 years to mature of which ang value lang nung plan for redemption is 40k. So bale last year (that is 2007) my plan was supposedly to mature. Kaso nga lang, when I came to redeem it, mukhang ala pondo para doon. Hay eto, keeping my fingers closed to keep my certificate copy baka later-on makabangon sila at ng ma-redeem ko na rin siya sa wakas.

Any experiences from them. Share niyo naman guys.
« Last Edit: Feb 04, 2009, 06:59 AM by FutureGizmo »


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I do have an Educational Plan in CAP for one of my kids..kaso 3 years ko pa lang nakuha (paid it in cash)..nagkaron na ng problema. Now wala na kong news about it..am still hoping someday makabawi pa cla since they still have a siginificant amount of Asset naman..nd nga lang liquid.

If someone could share any new insights on what's the status of CAP pls. do share. BAD or GOOD still a news.


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CAP Pension & CAP Educational Plan are different, they are incorporated in a seperate corporation, therefore they have different trust accounts as prescribe by SEC.

As far as I know, CAP Pension has enough ASSETS in CASH while the CAP Educational Plan has ASSETS but Illiquid assets (mostly in real estate in a far far away). All ASSETS of both company are being manage by the Trustee (Bank w/ Trust license) under the close supervision of SEC.

Recently, the CAP Board of Directors filed a resolution to change the one who handles there Assets (under trust) to another bank, however it is still subject to approval of SEC.
« Last Edit: Jun 24, 2008, 11:19 PM by foolcha »


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Aba mukhang may pag-asa ata iyong cap pension plan ko na i-claim? Any ideas po what is the regular process nito. Kasi nung pumunta ako doon last year, they told me that I should have filed it one year before the maturity of the plan. But in any case, they want me to surrender the certificate and pay me the following year. Ganun ba po ba talaga ang pag-claim diyan?

Salamat po sa magbabahagi ng information. Baka may member na cap agent dito sa site. Paging po. Pakisagot.


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that i don't know. although, we are the trustee of CAP I really don't know the claiming process, only people from CAP would know that and besides i really don't handle the CAP accounts only the retirement accounts. hihi... :D
« Last Edit: Jun 24, 2008, 11:21 PM by foolcha »


tops5450

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Paging former/active cap agents po dito. Baka kako po e may ibabahagi po kayong inputs. Thanks po.

OT
Kaibigang foolcha, salamat po sa book na Pwede na. Eto binabasa ko na siya ngayon.


foolcha

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Thats NP. I hope you learn a lot from the book, if you could grab a copy of the latest issue of moneysense magazine july-august issue the comprehensive financial plan i did for a couple in their mid 20's will be featured in the ask the expert column (i'm not an expert pa) alongside the real experts like mr. efren cruz (author of the book pwede na!) & ms. salve duplito (personal finance columnist). Actually excited din ako makita yung july-aug issue, wala pa kasi yung copy eh! :)


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foolcha is ther a way i can get a hold of moneysense mag dito sa qatar? mukang bagay sakin yung article na yun a espp now im really pushing towards learning the ropes for financial freedom as early as now.

as for the topic, bebeficiary ako ng CAP educ plan. although nagamit ko nmn yung 4 years ko sa college, hindi ko nakuha yung incentive ko na pag nkagraduate ontime e me bonus money sila ibibigay... di ko na din pinursue kc compared sa iba, npakaliit ng problema ko di ba.. saka nung last year na ng educational plan ko napakahirap na kumuha sa CAP and if i can remember medyo mlaki din yung idinagdag namin... di ko pa kc naiintindihan dati yung mga ganyang bagay e kya hindi ako attentive. :)


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Sir kiko2007

I don't think possible yun, siguro what we can do is for your relatives to buy you a copy then send it via fedex. you can check the website of moneysense baka sakali pwede www.moneysense.com.ph or if you have any questions about anything basta related sa money management you can send me a pm maybe I could help you.

With regards to CAP I ask the one who is in charge of the our CAP accounts sabi niya ang latest daw sa CAP ay hinde pa ina-approve ng SEC yung pag transfer ng trustee ng CAP to another bank.


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Please also update me on anything sa CAP, my brother has one, fully paid but he wasn't able to avail it, we file a claim when he was in his first year college, he's going to graduate na this october, even a cent, cap wasn't able to pay for his education.


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Well for one, I am a beneficiary of CAP Educational plan and was able to use it during college. But my parents who are both CAP pension holders were not able to claim from the company after it closed down.

Just last week, a friend of mine told me that she was able to claim little amount on a staggered basis but it will take longer time. I ask her how? She told me that you should first file a claim. I did not inquire much about it anymore. Maybe we should go the CAP office and ask.  

 


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i have a friend who got an insurance plan from CAP. it was actually 3 years ago when i went with him to claim his cheque for his tuition fee at UST. processing the papers, falling in line and waiting for it to be released took us a week. but it was arranged. they paid after all.


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hey guys, 3 ang Educational plan ko sa Cap. isa yung Cap plus na nag mature last july 2008, sinabihan kami noong February this year na dapat i-apply 1 month before the maturity to claim the payment.at 6mos lang daw makukuha na ang checks.dahil busy end of july 2008 na nagpunta misis ko to submit lahat ng papeles,lahat ng original na resibo at orig. cert of full payment, kapag daw lump sum ang gusto nmin halos 48k ang bawas sa orig amt na dapt naming makuha in 4 years installment, ok na din kaya pumayag kami, makuha lng nmin ng biglaan.nag follow up misis ko after 2mos, ang sagot sa claims section ng aleng analou larya ..ehh year 2007 plans daw binabayaran nila.so nde sila nagbibigay specific time or date kelan, sabi noon 6mos lng babayaran na, minsan sinubukan ko tumawag overseas.hay naku, ang sabi naman sa treasury nung aleng tess cuisia 2005 plans daw ang pina process nila.ubod ng yabang at sanay sa kasinungalingan kasi wla daw sila sinsabi na 2007 plans o w/in 6mos lng babayaran na,at lahat daw ng matured plans kupleto daw binabayaran o di sila nag ooffer ng lump sum.ewan ko ba kung alam nya sinasabi nya.itinuro ako sa isang mamerto marcelo-CAP receiver daw ng Makati RTC at gumawa daw ng demand letter at sabihin na daw lahat ng gusto kong sabihin..sila pa matapang..na parang may pinag mamalaki. :boxing: in other words kung hindi ka makapag hintay idemanda mo ang CAP..as in see you in court.. o diba? noong nagbabayad ako..isang araw ma delay yung hulog..may penalty.now i need the money sasabihin sau maghintay ka, hanggang kelan? yung ang di nila masagot. :help: umaasa pa din..kasi may 2 pa akong plans na malapit lapit na din mag mature.malaking pera din ang naibayad ko sa 3 plans halos 400k. yan ang latest experience namin sa CAP.guys :thankyou: :thankyou:


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Matagal ko ng ikinuha ko ng CAP College ang eldest daughter ko who was born on 1989, shes a sophomore this school year... We tried to claim her policy before her freshman year, but to no avail. Ngayon, nagka utang-utang na ako for her studies na dapat binabayaran ng CAP... If you guys have any news or updates regarding CAP College, please tell me so I can do something to get my investment back. TYVM


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Any news now in CAP insurance....may nag try n b n makuha o maka receive sa kanilang cap pension plan?

Member din ako at fully paid na but problem is nde pa nila nabbigay ang certificate of full pyment ko, but i have all the receipts? what should i do?

may pag asa pa ba tayo makuha ang pera natin?  :(



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« Last Edit: Mar 04, 2009, 05:23 PM by abbeytuds »


tops5450

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Thanks abbeytuds for the update.

Mukhang promising itong news na ibinalita mo po. Mapasyalan nga sila ng mapakinabangan ko na rin iyong pension plan ko na 40k lang naman na pinaghirapan kong hulugan noong kadete palang ako sa pma.



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Aba, kailangan mapuntahan ko nga ito sa Makati Office asap.

What papers did you bring?


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Hope you indeed check it out guys.  Do let us know of the result.   :cool2:


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Aba, kailangan mapuntahan ko nga ito sa Makati Office asap.

What papers did you bring?

Hi Ping!

I brought Certificate of Full Payment (CFP), Scholarship Funding Agreement (SFA), Cerificate of Nomination and Blue Cross Insurace. They only asked for the CFP when I was there but I suggest you bring all the your CAP related documents just in case. Again, this is for CAP Education Plan.

For CAP pension plan holders, as I understand they have  different fundings for that.
« Last Edit: Mar 06, 2009, 07:47 AM by FutureGizmo »


tops5450

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Sir Ping, ano pong balita sa Cap natin? Getting good po ba? Thanks


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Paki post din po kung may update kayo sa Pension Plan...problem ko wla sila binigay na CFP pero byad nman ako lahat.

Pwede din kaya me mag refund khit nde pa maturity ng plan....meron din kaya malapit n CAP office sa bandang bulacan...

Thanks po sa mga updates.


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elow poh,
panu po yun process pag claim yun life insurance policy???
di ku kasi maintindihan yun policy na nakasulat dun...
5yrs to pay sya at complete n yun payment... kaso yun maturity date e 2045 p...
pwede b i-terminate n yun  policy at claim n lng yun binayad??? may kasama interest yun binayad sa insurance pag claim...
Thnx...


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 :applause:Go to the website below - there is list of checks that CAP has to be claimed for the first installment of their Plan Benefits as mandated by the Court (for Tuition Fee Benefits and Termination Values) or the full Maturity Benefit of their Fixed Value Plans":

http://cap.com.ph/education/Approved%20RRP%20-%20Schedule%20-%20Batangas.htm


tops5450

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Thanks bikoljoe sa info,

How about pension, may balita po ba dito?



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If you're in Bulacan then you need to go to the Makati Office for inquiry but there's no assurance that you'll get positive results. I have 3 CAP educational Plan for my kids and the oldest has just graduated in college and I was able to get about P 1,300.00 in four years time (not enough for my travel expenses). And what they have in their website regarding the scheduled payment - I hope they are real names of beneficiaries. I observed that it's not changing and maybe to show that they are paying!. All investments of CAP are successfull and just ask where they are bringing their generated income, is the court makes any verification if the CAP Management do its commitment? What judicial system we have?  


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My experience with CAP naman was great, since 19-kopong kopong pa ako naging beneficiary ng CAP. My parents paid 10,800 PHP for the entire college scholarship and sinagot niya ang tuition ko for 4-years kasama pati mga summer classes ko.

Buti naabot ko good end ng "First In, First Out" rule.
« Last Edit: Apr 27, 2009, 01:55 PM by richardthebrave »


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Where is the Makati office located? I see an article in the Inquirer that the are paying out P400 per semester. See:

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20090428-201845/P400-per-semester-from-CAP


If you're in Bulacan then you need to go to the Makati Office for inquiry but there's no assurance that you'll get positive results. I have 3 CAP educational Plan for my kids and the oldest has just graduated in college and I was able to get about P 1,300.00 in four years time (not enough for my travel expenses). And what they have in their website regarding the scheduled payment - I hope they are real names of beneficiaries. I observed that it's not changing and maybe to show that they are paying!. All investments of CAP are successfull and just ask where they are bringing their generated income, is the court makes any verification if the CAP Management do its commitment? What judicial system we have?  


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Nag apply ung lola koh ng college educ. plan sa Cap pra smin ng pinsan koh... kso ndi rin nkuha dhl ngsara daw ung CAP...Ngaun may mga nbasa akong good news... may alam poh bah kau kung ma claim pah ung educ plan nah kinuha pra smn? please Help poh... :help: :help: :help:


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hi

ask ko lng po kung may update na ba sa CAP pension plan??? ang alam ko CAP educational plan lng nagkaprob.... Sna makuha ko na rin ung ininvest ko sa kanila...

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May updates po sa site nila, regarding releasing of partial payment sa CAP Educational Plan.  My sister got her 20k+ partial refund yesterday.  Mine is being processed pa raw, and hope to get it by July 2009 (crossing my fingers)


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We received 10% of the maturity value for our pension plan in September, 2008. CAP issued to us a letter saying that the balance will be paid once their funds in real estate will turn liquid... There was no reply from them when I made a follow-up collection last month... No word was also received from SEC on the matter.


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to jomor

tnx sa info.... its been a while na kc, sayang ng investment ko sa cap pension plan... malapit pa naman ako makakuha ng pension...

in case may feedback / updates, kindly post here nalang para maupdate din ung ibang members

=)



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hi..baka gusto nyo pong mag-invest sa online trading? thanks..


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sa CAP medyo pahirapan talaga... in fact, when I wrote the SEC Chairman Atty. Fe Barin, nag-respond naman agad ang CAP, that's why they paid us 10% of the maturity benefit... for those who have benefit receivables from CAP, talagang tiaga lang ang kailangan sa paghahabol ng benefit. just sharing what we did .


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that's ok... baka mas malaki pa ang ibabayad sa inyo ng CAP.... good luck imtheone2009.


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sakto... magpapatulong ako kay fe barin... ninang namin yun sa kasal... sana mafast track niya ung accounts ko sa CAP...




Aba, ang galing!  Baka pwede rin ipa-"sabit" kay ninang yun 2 CAP educational plans ko?
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good day sir ping

try ko muna ung sa akin... pag ok ung result, tulungan ko rin ung mga pmt members din

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sige po, good luck ha?

asahan ko, at namin yan ha?



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basta makatulong sa kapwa, ang hangad ko........


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Would you be so kind na ilapit din po ang case ko na ma-claim iyong matured na pension plan din sir imtheone2009 :thankyou:


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to tops

let's see kung ano mangyari sa account ko sir... this week, ayusin ko ung insurance ko sa CAP... il update u guys kung good news or bad news...  Sana matandaan niya pa ako... Wish me luck...

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sir, good day po.

kamusta na po ung insurance nyo?

ako po kasi, may life insurance sa CAP na nagmature nung 2006. sinubukang kong i-claim ung lump sum nung july, 2006. sabi balik ako after 1 month. pag balik ko, sabi hintayin na lang daw kung ano utos ng court.

ano po ba mapayo nyong pwede kong gawin? kasi naibigay ko na yung certificate of full payment sa kanila. wala na akong kopya kahit xerox. Paano po kaya ito?

Thank you po...



to tops

let's see kung ano mangyari sa account ko sir... this week, ayusin ko ung insurance ko sa CAP... il update u guys kung good news or bad news...  Sana matandaan niya pa ako... Wish me luck...

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:thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: :D


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Definitely you are at their mercy rey kasi isinurender mo na pala ang certificate mo of full maturity. Yan din ang advise sa akin noon about sa pension plan ko. Dahil sa walang kasiguraduhan sa aksyon nila. I rather keep my copy than surrender it to them. Kasi wala na tayong kahabol habol or evidence man lang on our possesions that they owe us something. :watchuthink:


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thanks for your help imtheone. nakausap ko na yung CAP, natakot sila dahil malakas pala kapit mo sa SEC. sabi nila within this month or definitely by june, ok na yung claims ko..

again,  :thankyou:




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suskopo!!! any news from cap educational plans? 1 have 3 of those and iyong isa mag gra graduate na, at hindi ko na alam kung meron pang mukukuha dun. ang last post dito is 2008 pa. mga pipol, susuko na lang ba tayo sa mga kahayupan nang mga ito?????


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ay mali, iyong 4 pages pala ito, iyong nakita ko, iyong 1st page at 2008 pa. anyway, my certificates ay nasunog (kasabay nang bahay namin) at parang, talagang malupit na pahirapan ang mangyayari ano? based on the msgs ninyong lahat. kasi, wala nang makuha sa kanila, wala pa akong maipapakita. thinking out loud lang ako mga pipol and thanks for your stories.  


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ay mali, iyong 4 pages pala ito, iyong nakita ko, iyong 1st page at 2008 pa. anyway, my certificates ay nasunog (kasabay nang bahay namin) at parang, talagang malupit na pahirapan ang mangyayari ano? based on the msgs ninyong lahat. kasi, wala nang makuha sa kanila, wala pa akong maipapakita. thinking out loud lang ako mga pipol and thanks for your stories.  


Thats very unfortunate to learn po na nasunugan po kayo at nasama pa ang cap documents niyo po. Any way, goodluck nalang po sa atin :rakenrol:


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thanks tops5450, for your kind comments.

Sa mga ganitong oras, na napakahirap nang buhay, talagang nakakadagdag pa ang mga ganitong pangyayari (sa cap), na dapat, ay naasahan natin.

sa tinggin niyo ba, makakakuha pa ako nang "certified true copy" baga, nang mga previously issued na certificates?  para naman kasing nakaka yamot pumunta sa cap office at mukhang gagawin lang tayong mga gulong, na paikot ikot. mas ok nga itong forum at least "true to life" experiences.

Good luck nalang sa ating lahat. sana mag iba naman ang ikot nang cap!!!!  


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yung best friend ng mother ko na withdraw na yung cap educational plan ng 2 anak niya.  ang alam ko 70% lang ang nabawi niya.  ok narin kaysa sa wala.  




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I was so thankful that I was able to used my cap educational plan before it collapsed. Even though it just covered around 40% of my tuition in Ateneo before because my mom bought a private school plan (ateneo was considered as exclusive by CAP), still that was a big help to us.

I hope for others, you would get some portion if not all of your hard earned invested money.


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Any news lately on CAP Pension Plan, good or bad?  My plan (supposedly) matures next year & I'm just wondering if there is still a tinge of hope to collect. :help:


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my wife's plan matured in 2005, but only 10% of said plan was paid as of today ... CAP has been silent since then when we claimed for the balance...


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Hi ....

Can somebody tell me , or does anyone know about IRA 5 and the interest of it ..how can I count it...???

Salamat for your help... :help:



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hmmmmmmmmmm...

I had a cap educational PLAN...i was able to use it only for 3 SEMESTERS...after that i couldnt use it in school and was told by the CAP office I would have to file for a REFUND for my tuition when i graduate...


after graduation, the processing was like SOCCER... LONG waiting period to see a result and the constant TOUR of the different personnel to re-clarify the documents...

it was like a passing game...

very bad experience... for me CAP is a volcano waiting to errupt...
Posted on: Aug 16, 2010, 09:49 PM
for me dont invest in cap...

your better off buying a Insurance / VUL for your self or for your CHILDREN...


we cant deny that once in a child life one would have to go to a hospital...

im one of the few persons to really enjoy (sort of) the hospital income since i was sickly...


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sorry maria_ann pero ala akong nakitang list ng mga unclaimed sa sites na sinasabi mo :harhar:


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Bale may Cap Pension Plan ako na kinuha ko way back 1997. I paid it for 5 years of around 30K and waited for 5 years to mature of which ang value lang nung plan for redemption is 40k. So bale last year (that is 2007) my plan was supposedly to mature. Kaso nga lang, when I came to redeem it, mukhang ala pondo para doon. Hay eto, keeping my fingers closed to keep my certificate copy baka later-on makabangon sila at ng ma-redeem ko na rin siya sa wakas.

Any experiences from them. Share niyo naman guys.

Dear Tops5450,

Thank you for posting, I understand you have some questions about your plan. I just want to ask if you've visited their site
You can go to www.cap.com.ph tapos click on the place nearest you and try to see if your name is on the list of the people with unclaimed checks. As of the month of September the unclaimed checks have amounted to P137 Million Pesos.

If you have already filed for a claim, please be patient kasi it works as First come,First serve basis as mandated by the court. If you're name is not yet on the list just check frequently cause it will come out eventually.



Sincerely,
Maria Ann
Official CAP Rep


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sorry maria_ann pero ala akong nakitang list ng mga unclaimed sa sites na sinasabi mo :harhar:

Hi tops5450,

it's just there, you have to navigate lang and click on the are nearest you. I'll try to link you on the site where you can click on the place near you.

http://cap.com.ph/education/Approved%20RRP%20-%20Schedule.htm


there, now all you have to do is copy and paste that link, then go ahead and click on the place near you or where you filed.

If you have anymore questions feel free to ask or go to www.captruth.webs.com



Sincerely,
Maria Ann
Official CAP Rep



 


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