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Title: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: bajoyjoy on Aug 17, 2012, 02:11 PM
Relevant paragraph of Sotto’s Turno En Contra speech against RH Bill (taken from the published copy found at senate.gov.ph):

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http://www.senate.gov.ph/press_release/2012/0814_sotto1.asp (http://www.senate.gov.ph/press_release/2012/0814_sotto1.asp)

According, to Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride MD, the use of the pill also causes severe gut dysbiosis. What is worse, drug induced gut imbalance is especially intractable and resistant to treatment either with probiotics or diet change. Gut imbalance brought on through use of the pill negatively impacts the ability to digest food and absorb nutrients. As a result, even if a woman eats spectacularly well during pregnancy, if she has been taking oral contraceptives for a period of time beforehand, it is highly likely that she and her baby are not reaping the full benefits of all this healthy food as the lack of beneficial flora in her gut preclude this from occurring. Pathogenic, opportunistic flora that take hold in the gut when the pill is used constantly produce toxic substances which are the by-products of their metabolism. These toxins leak into the woman's bloodstream and they have the potential to cross the placenta. Therefore, gut dysbiosis exposes the fetus to toxins. Not well known is also the fact that use of the pill depletes zinc in the body. Zinc is called "the intelligence mineral" as it is intimately involved in mental development.

And here's what was “lifted” from Sarah Pope’s blog:
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http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/how-the-pill-can-harm-your-future-childs-health/ (http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/how-the-pill-can-harm-your-future-childs-health/)
According, to Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride MD, use of other drugs such as the Pill also cause severe gut dybiosis.   What’s worse, drug induced gut imbalance is especially intractable and resistant to treatment either with probiotics or diet change.

What does this mean for your future child’s health?   A lot, as it turns out!

Gut Imbalance Reduces Absorption of Nutrients

First of all, gut imbalance brought on through use of The Pill negatively impacts the ability to digest food and absorb nutrients.   As a result, even if a women eats spectacularly well during pregnancy, if she has been taking oral contraceptives for a period of time beforehand, it is highly likely that she and her baby are not reaping the full benefits of all this healthy food as the lack of beneficial flora in her gut preclude this from occurring.

Not well known is the fact that use of The Pill depletes zinc in the body.  Zinc is called “the intelligence mineral” as it is intimately involved in mental development.   As a result, it is very important for women who have been using oral contraceptives to wait at least 6 months before becoming pregnant to ensure that zinc levels return to normal as low zinc is associated with lowered IQ and birth defects.

^note, pati yung misplaced na comma sa "According," - kopyang-kopya! :D

Sotto immediately denied that he plagiarized (obviously he didnt write that speech himself coz if he did, he would instantly know he's been caught):
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/08/16/12/sotto-denies-plagiarizing-parts-rh-bill-speech (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/08/16/12/sotto-denies-plagiarizing-parts-rh-bill-speech)
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But Sotto said he never hid the fact that the arguments he used in his speech came from a book of Dr. Natasha McBride, who is famous for developing a concept of gut and psychology syndrome.

"Yung blogger na sinasabi nila, pareho kami ng pinagkunan eh, si Natasha Campbell-McBride. In my speech, I've always said na hindi galing sa atin ito, messenger lang ako. Bakit ko naman iku-quote ‘yung blogger, ang kinu-quote ko si Natasha McBride," he explained.

Sotto added his critics are only bringing up the issue of plagiarism because they could not answer the arguments of McBride.

"Nauubusan [sila] ng sagot sa sinasabi ko so they attack me... Sagutin niyo yung sinabi ni Natasha McBride," he insisted on his critics.

Then last night, Sotto’s staff admits they (not the Honorable Senator!) did the lifting from Sarah’s blog:

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http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/lifestyle/08/16/12/sottos-office-admits-copying-us-blog (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/lifestyle/08/16/12/sottos-office-admits-copying-us-blog)

Atty. Hector Villacorta, in a message posted on the Facebook page of Sarah Pope, said it was the senator's staff who lifted the content of the blogger's work without attributing it to her.

"I understand you felt slighted that your blog was not attributed to you which became part of the speech of the senator. Let me say that after asking my staff, indeed, your blog was used but only in quoting also from the same book of Dr. Campbell-Mcbride," he said.

Villacorta confirmed to ABS-CBN News and ANC that he indeed sent the message to Pope.

"We are both indebted to the book's author but if you wish that you also be credited with the contents of the book, let this be your affirmation. I can do it and by this message, I am doing it. Hope it satisfies you. But if it does not, what would you want us to do?" he said.

"What have we done to deserve your incriminating words. The senator did not lift it himself, we did. Did you want us to tell him to admit what he did not do? Who would you like to crucify for this oversight?" he asked after Pope lashed out at Sotto and directly accused him of plagiarizing her work.

"Forgive us our single trespass. We had no malice, we thought you would be happy about it. There was no injury. Hope this makes you feel better," Villacorta said.

Sarah Pope’s response:

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http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/on-plagiarism-the-pill-and-presumptuousness/ (http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/on-plagiarism-the-pill-and-presumptuousness/)

"That is the issue and it was indeed plagiarism. If his staff did it, he condoned it.  He is responsible for your actions.   My blog was quoted, not Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride. I put her work in my own words and you copied my words."

"A woman needs to know that the Pill can indeed harm her but this is NO REASON to take away this choice from her in the first place."

"I do not agree with Senator Sotto's position on this issue and he twisted the message of my blog to suit his own purposes against the women of the Philippines."

"Your lame comment does not make me feel any better."  

"A thief is a thief, Mr. Senator. Denying it won't get you off the hook.; it just makes you a lying thief..."


And apparently, Sotto’s speechwriter/s lifted from “5 bloggers and a briefing paper".  Here is Raissa Robles’ report:

 http://raissarobles.com/2012/08/16/did-sen-sotto-copy-from-4-bloggers/ (http://raissarobles.com/2012/08/16/did-sen-sotto-copy-from-4-bloggers/)

So why should the Honorable Senator quote the blogger? Maybe now he knows the answer to that. He should quote his source to avoid this kind of humiliation and ridicule he is now being subjected to. He (or his lawyer staff) should know by now that bloggers (the legit ones) are at a minimum, very internet-savvy, and they will immediately know how to find out if plagiarism was committed.

(http://raissarobles.com/?attachment_id=13469)
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill: "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: pmtmember on Aug 17, 2012, 02:23 PM
d ba may kaso din ito dati about plagiarism sa book na ginawa?
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill: "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: MacDelta on Aug 17, 2012, 02:31 PM
I guess this guy will now stop playing of being a smart ass because he ain't at all. A dumb and stupid didn't even do he's research before making he's so called privilege speech. I'm  just wondering why this guy still even in a senate. Plaigiarism in states faces a law suit this guy should have one.
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill: "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: freeman12 on Aug 17, 2012, 04:16 PM
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/25031433.jpg)

Eh graduate kasi ng ISKUL BUKOL E!. hehe

joke time muna!
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill: "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: bajoyjoy on Aug 17, 2012, 04:29 PM
Tito, his chief of staff and speechwriter are being paid taxpayers' money for this "cut-and-paste" speech? ang pinaka-nakakainis pa, nagmamaang-maangan at nagmamalinis pa sila at nagmamagaling. nahuli na, magdedeny at ipipilit pang wala silang maling ginawa... haynaku naman... :rant:


Sotto Plagiarized second RH speech, too?

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/lifestyle/08/17/12/sotto-plagiarized-second-rh-speech-too (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/lifestyle/08/17/12/sotto-plagiarized-second-rh-speech-too)
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: kithe on Aug 17, 2012, 10:56 PM
I am sure sinasabon na yung gumawa nun.. Ang siyempre nahihiya din si Tito Sen.. Umiyak pa man din siya sa harap ng madlang people.. Carried away sa speech.. Ang galing naman nung nakapuna nun hano?

Sa nabasa ko sa book, kung nagpipills ang isang babae, at gusto niya magbuntis, dapat at least 2 years muna siya magstop na magpills, then after nun medyo safe and pwede na siya magbuntis para walang maging anumang defect magiging baby niya.. The book is What to Expect when you're expecting.. :)
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: bauer on Aug 17, 2012, 11:16 PM
Umiyak pa man din siya sa harap ng madlang people.. Carried away sa speech.. 

Bakit kaya ako natawa nung umiyak si Senator Tito? 

Akala nya yata... Ready.... Shoot.... Action!

Ang galing kasi mambuntis ng mga babae....... kaya ayaw sa pills.... kaso ayaw rin umamin na nakabuntis.  hayyyy buhay.....
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: gang13 on Aug 17, 2012, 11:19 PM
Shux, kakahiya! umamin na ba si tito sotto?
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: makasabat_po on Aug 18, 2012, 06:56 AM
 :D Dumadami na kasi ang graduates at professionals na tamad! Kaya saludo ako sa mga nakapagtapos at nakakuha ng diploma noong panahong hindi pa uso ang google! OO kasalanan ng speechwriter na tamad yan pero kasalanan din ni Sotto yan. Una bilang magbabasa ng speech, ikaw ang tatayong Editor-in-chief/ copy reader ng babasahin mo. You have to make sure na well-researched ang topics sa speech at hindi plagiarized. May naencounter din akong ganyan, speech writer daw ng isang dating nasa gobyerno pero plagiarist din. Lintek na mga writers to, pinasusweldo kayo tapos ganyan trabaho nyo??? Bilang writer legal at ethical ang magquote ng ibang writers for purpose of 'referencing' pero hindi legal na akuin mong iyo ang sinulat o ideya ng iba. Ang pamimirata ng ideya ng iba ay masasabing pagnanakaw na rin. Pwedenamang magpara-phrase na lang at least lulusot yun. Pero pati sentence construction ay nakawin mo ibang usapin na yun. Hindi yun simpleng katamaran, iyon ay kabobohan at ang gamot sa bobo ay hindi nabibili sa mercury drug! :harhar:
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: decapolis on Aug 18, 2012, 07:27 AM
Sa pagkakaalam ko maski US president ginagawan ng speech kasi yun ang napanood ko sa History Channel. Sorry na lng palpak yung taga-gawa ni Sen Sotto
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: akoni on Aug 18, 2012, 09:18 AM
Exposing Alfredo R. Melgar, the “blogger” credited for exposing Senate Majority Leader Vicente “Tito” Sotto III’s supposed plagiarism on the smear website of the neo-atheist Filipino Freethinkers, is no ordinary blogger after all.

Documents now show Alfredo earns his living from Likhaan2, one of the groups exposed by Sotto as having received thousands of dollars last year from the International Planned Parenthood Federation, the world’s largest provider of abortion services.---Anti-RHbill

http://pinoytemplars.blogspot.com/2012/08/blogger-who-launched-smear-attack-vs.html?m=1 (http://pinoytemplars.blogspot.com/2012/08/blogger-who-launched-smear-attack-vs.html?m=1)
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: jrgabeledo on Aug 18, 2012, 09:37 AM
a cut & paste TRAPO...
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: Lightwind_99 on Aug 18, 2012, 11:05 AM
baka nung grade school at high school nangongopya ng assignment.
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: bauer on Aug 18, 2012, 01:01 PM
eto pa hindi lang yata plagiarist, caught lying as well?

sourced from philippine star news:


Sotto erred in birth control pills claim?
 Home Updated August 17, 2012 06:03 PM 23 comments to this post

MANILA, Philippines - Amid his problem with plagiarism, Senator Vicente Sotto III may yet again be asked to explain on his claim on a birth control pill's brand that supposedly was the reason behind his son's death in 1975.
 
A pro-reproductive health bill Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/prorhbill) posted that the birth control pill brand -- Diane of Bayer Schering Pharma - mentioned by Sotto in his anti-RH bill speech last August 15 was introduced in 1978.
 
An entry in Bayer's website -- http://www.bayerpharma.com/en/company/history/index.php -- confirmed that the birth control pill brand was introduced that year.

In published stories quoting the senator, his son Vincent Paul died in 1975 or three years before Diane was introduced to the market.
 
"Diane po ang pangalan ng pills na ginamit ng aking asawa noon. Supervised po siya ng doktor habang ginagamit nya ito. Intellehente naman po ang asawa ko, alam niya kung paano gumamit nito. Malinaw po ang sinabi sa amin ng kanyang doctor, katuwang ang aking ina, Dra. Herminia Castelo Sotto, ** na ang pagbubuntis niya kahit may contraceptives ang maaring naging sanhi ng kumplikasyon, prematurity at eventually pagkamatay ng anak namin. Bakit ko po iimbentuhin ang katotohanang ito?" the senator said in his August 15 speech, which is a continuation of his August 13 speech titled "Turno en Contra."
 
The two speeches have become controversial, not because of its subject, but because of the supposed plagiarism committed by the senator. Parts of the speeches were supposedly copied from blogs.
 
Sotto had said that his son died five months after he was born in 1975.
 
The senator said that after his wife, actress Helen Gamboa, gave birth to their eldest daughter Romina in 1973, she was advised by her doctors to take contraceptives so as not to disrupt her schedule in doing movies.
 
However, the contraceptives did not work and Gamboa became pregnant with their first son.
 
He said that the weak heart of his son led to the need for regular blood transfusions, which went on until his death five months later.
 
“At that time I asked God why this happened to me. I badly wanted a son, why did you take him away from me? Thirty-seven years later, the Lord gave me his answer, it is my mission to stop this bill (from being approved),” Sotto said.
 
In the Facebook entry, pro-RH advocates scored Sotto for allegedly lying on the bill control pill's brand and date. Some comments said that the error was a result of poor research on the part of the senator.
 
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: pmtmember on Aug 18, 2012, 01:34 PM
Exposing Alfredo R. Melgar, the “blogger” credited for exposing Senate Majority Leader Vicente “Tito” Sotto III’s supposed plagiarism on the smear website of the neo-atheist Filipino Freethinkers, is no ordinary blogger after all.

Documents now show Alfredo earns his living from Likhaan2, one of the groups exposed by Sotto as having received thousands of dollars last year from the International Planned Parenthood Federation, the world’s largest provider of abortion services.---Anti-RHbill

http://pinoytemplars.blogspot.com/2012/08/blogger-who-launched-smear-attack-vs.html?m=1 (http://pinoytemplars.blogspot.com/2012/08/blogger-who-launched-smear-attack-vs.html?m=1)

mukhang politically motivated? Ganon pa man mali pa rin yong nag cut and paste
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: bajoyjoy on Aug 18, 2012, 02:10 PM
^i agree. it doesnt discount the fact na nangopya ng bonggang-bongga yung mama. pano ka pa maniniwala sa susunod nyang sasabihin e alam mo ng (1) hindi sya ang sumusulat ng speech nya -- which is a normal practice naman, (2) hindi nagreresearch ang mga tao nya ng mabuti (3) hindi nagveverify ng info si sotto bago magmagaling sa senado...

@bauer-- yikes, ano ba yan, yung personal experience na nga lang na part ng speech nya ang aasahan mong kanya talaga at di nakaw, ngayon di na naman pala totoo. tama na naman ung blogger sa sinabi nyang "you are a lying thief!".

well said, @makasabat_po.. sobrang katamaran at kabobohan nga yung ginawa nya at ng buong opisina nya. at pangangatawanan pa nila na tama sila, lalong umaangat ang kabobohan ng mga ganyang di kayang umamin ng pagkakamali. kung nagsabi na lang sila na nagkaron nga ng oversight, sori nakaligtaan banggitin ung source, e di tapos na usapan. kaso ayaw nilang aminin na nag-copy-paste (at pati maling punctuation kopyang-kopya) na nga sila ng idea ng ibang tao AT lalabas pa na ang ginawa nilang basehan sa kanilang arguments against RH bill e isang blog about healthy recipes,  hindi man lang expert na matatawag. kahiya-hiya nga naman at "unelegant"<word used by his lawyer. and ung sinasabi nilang pareho sila ng pinagkunan na source nung blogger, e bakit hindi nila ipakita ung copy ng book or research nung dr. natasha mcbride kung totoong nagkataon lang na pareho sila ng na-quote.

tapos humirit pa ang chief of staff nya (atty villacorta) na ang blogs daw ay public domain at hindi copyrighted at exempted ang government from copyright law? 1972 pa yata nakapasa ng bar yan kaya di na nabasa ang Intellectual Property Code in its present form. he's putting the legal profession under a bad light sa mga pinagsasabi nya. mahina na nga si sotto, ganyan pa ang adviser nya? take note, Senate Majority Leader ang posisyon ni tito. hayzzz, patawarin!

magpprivilege speech daw si tito sen next week about plagiarism, sana hindi lifted from another blog or original work na naman ang babasahin nya LOL... kung mapaiyak ulit sya, baka dahil sa kahihiyan na ng mga sunod-sunod na kapalpakan nila.

ang sabi nga sa blog ni professionalheckler:

"Sen. Sotto, you are nothing, but a second-rate, trying hard, COPY-PASTE!" :rofl:

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/08/17/12/sotto-would-be-championing-piracy (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/08/17/12/sotto-would-be-championing-piracy)
MANILA, Philippines - Senator Tito Sotto would be promoting piracy if he follows the advice of his chief of staff that Internet content is free to be used and claimed as his own without laws being violated, a journalist and blogger said Friday.

South China Morning Post correspondent Raissa Robles, who also has a blog on ABS-CBNNews.com, told ANC that Atty. Hector Villacorta's claim that Sotto can use any online content without fear of copyright infringement has implications.

"Atty. Villacorta said that the Internet is free. This would mean that Senator Sotto would be championing digital piracy," Robles said.

"He will never allow such piracy to be punished because you see there are pending bills right now punishing digital piracy online so that's what it means," she added.

"Sotto is a champion of the entertainment industry. What Atty. Villacorta said has very vast implications. He said everything in the Internet is free. That means music and movies can be downloaded or ought to be downloaded for free all time," she said.

Villacorta, in a text message to ABS-CBNNews.com, claimed that they are not violating copyright laws, despite the standards set by Republic Act No. 8293, or the Intellectual Property Code of the Philippines.

"Blogs are public domain, information to the world, for the world. No copyright infringement," he said.

Robles said Sotto should follow the footsteps of journalist Fareed Zakaria, who was suspended by Time and CNN after admitting he plagiarized a paragraph from the New Yorker for his Time column.

Zakaria has apologized for committing plagiarism.

"Take the action that Fareed Zakaria did. Apologize for the whole thing and put it behind him," Robles said.

"There are very serious implications about this. He is not just a senator. He is a Senate majority floor leader and his speech was a major speech," she added.

Robles said whoever who wrote his speech for him was getting information from the Internet word-for-word.

"That, by classic definition, is plagiarism," she warned.

"I don't know what is going on in their office. But the point is, that is his speech," she said. "Senators, they have a lot of money for staff."

She expressed disappointment that Sotto's speech is supposed to champion the side of groups opposing the reproductive health bill.

"This is sidelined now by the accusation of plagiarism, which is also a very serious thing," Robles said.

She said if Sotto will have another privilege speech, his staff should go over it very carefully.

"I always thought that if a senator delivered a speech in the Senate, he would have thought about it for a long time and that would be his ideas," she said. "It should come from his heart." - reports from Karen Flores, ABS-CBNNews.com; ANC



Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: totscalilari on Aug 19, 2012, 12:28 AM
didn't hear the speech, just know the story so baka hilaw comment ko...

i think people are making to big a deal with this and are losing the whole point, which is the RH bill...

it is not a contest and i think medical yung "plagiarized" part of the speech so obvious na di galing sa utak ni Sotto or staff niya  ung nakasulat dun, so IMHO, ok lang yung ginawa niya..

pero di ok yung comment niya afterward na sabi niya "just a blogger" yung kinopyahan niya so why should he quote her. Para niyang sinabi walang kwenta speech niya because he based it from "just a blogger". He should have just acknowledged the blogger and apologize

And I also didn't like his acting after the speech...
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: sicalsem on Aug 20, 2012, 12:11 AM
just want to share a blog post from http://evenstarwen.com/2012/08/17/an-open-letter-to-atty-hector-villacorta-from-a-humble-blogger/

An open letter to Atty. Hector Villacorta, from a humble blogger
Aug
17
Sir, if I might have a word with you.

Before Sen. Tito Sotto’s plagiarism extravaganza this week, I had no idea who you are. You moved in powerful circles in the nation’s capital while I quietly scribbled my thoughts in my little corner of the Internet. Alas, those happy days are gone. Now you’re everywhere I turn in the Philippine blogosphere, littering our space with your arrogant delusions. I’m tired of this. There’s an important debate going on regarding a bill that will drastically affect our country’s future, and you and your big mouth are sidetracking us.

I never thought that an unpaid blogger might have something to teach a senator’s chief of staff, but someone needs to stop you from making a bigger fool of yourself and your boss. Nobody in your office seems willing to do it, so I will. Listen up.

This all started when parts of an anti-Reproductive Health Bill speech made by Sen. Sotto were revealed to be lifted from an article by Sarah Pope, an American health blogger. He denied it, implying that bloggers are too insignificant to steal from, but everyone with a working bullsh*t detector just laughed in his face. When Sarah heard that a senator from halfway around the world not only stole her intellectual property but also, in her own words, “twisted the message of my blog to suit his own purposes against the women of the Philippines,” she felt the need to respond. (As an aside, see what I did there, when I attributed the words to the source? That’s a quote, Attorney. We’ll get back to that later.)

Now here’s where you come in. You stormed into Sarah’s comment section, dripping false humility and weary condescension, and proceeded to offer an ill-advised pseudo-apology that triggered a chorus of facepalms across the nation. Since then, you’ve spouted off more of your special brand of idiocy, and frankly, it’s embarrassing. It’s time for you to learn what you’ve been chattering about.

Let’s see. There’s a wealth of misinformation from you in this article from ABS-CBNnews.com. Let’s try to deal with that, shall we?

YOUR WORDS:

“Blog site is public domain.”
“Blogs are public domain. Anybody can use it [sic].”
“Bloggers, beware what you put out on the web. You should not cry if used by the web.”
THE FACTS:

No, Attorney,  a blog isn’t automatically in the public domain.  If an intellectual property doesn’t qualify for a copyright, or if its copyright has already expired, only then is it part of the public domain. Since blogs qualify for automatic copyright protection, and since that protection takes a long time to expire, the information that you and your staff copied for the senator was not, in fact, in the public domain.

You can’t evade  this. The Philippines signed several international copyright agreements, including one specifically designed to protect intellectual property online. We also have our own Intellectual Property Code. You asked where the laws are that would prove the crime of plagiarism was committed. Here they are, Attorney. And yes, just because these laws exist doesn’t guarantee implementation, but it’s kind of disturbing when a lawyer and a senator are either ignorant about them or actively defying them.

YOUR WORDS:

 ”Nagtatampo pala sila pag naqu-quote sila.” (Trans: Their sensitivities get hurt when they are quoted.)
 THE FACTS:

That was not quoting, Attorney, that was stealing. To quote means to properly acknowledge the source. You know, like I did with Sarah’s words up there and your own ridiculous sound bites. In blogging we do it by linking to whatever website we used as source.  In speech, you have to actually mention the origin out loud. In academic research and scientific literature, there’s a formal system that gives every first-time college thesis writer nightmares. I assume you are familiar with the last one, because you must be using scientific research for Sen. Sotto’s anti-RH Bill arguments, right? Right?

The point is, attribution is important. Without it, you are letting people believe that the words are your own, essentially claiming credit for them. In short, plagiarizing.

YOUR WORDS:

“Government is exempted from the copyright rule. As a general principle,  you cannot withhold information from government.”
 THE FACTS

I hesitate to venture into this territory because you’re a lawyer and I’m not. But the Philippine Constitution can be read by anyone, and maybe you just need a friendly reminder.

As far as I know, we are not yet a Big Brother society, though we do have a Big Brother television show. Here in the Philippines, we still believe that privacy is a right. Sections 2 and 3 of the Constitution’s Bill of Rights assure me that even the President himself can’t force me to let him read my high school diary and use it for his own purposes without a court order. Of course, if it were a matter of national security, I’ll let him read even the unsent love letter to my old crush, but only if he promises not to post it on Facebook.

As for the claim that working for the government exempts you from obeying the law, we only have to look at the cases of those Supreme Court justices charged with plagiarism to know that that’s just another one of your little daydreams.

I’m sure I missed a few other things, but I’m tired. Obviously one of your staff knows how to use google, so next time, please just ask him to do some research before you use any big words in your interviews.

Or there’s also the possibility of Sen. Sotto just saying he’s sorry. Then this will all eventually blow over and we could go back to concentrating on the RH Bill. Just two words, Attorney. How hard can it be?

Sincerely,

A blogger
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: PeopleSupport on Aug 20, 2012, 12:54 AM
Bakit sa ba plagiarism na napunta ang usapan? Di ba RH Bill ang issue dito? Nasilip lang yan na butas ng mga Pro-RH.. Wala na bang ibang pwedeng ibato?

Ok lang maging plagiarist wag lang MURDER PROMOTER.
As we all know from likhaan.org's Agaw Buhay Video.. Tsk! Tsk!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL42DABB71810AF4C9&v=qUgZSBc_asc&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: totscalilari on Aug 20, 2012, 01:07 AM
^murder promoter? never understood why people connect murder to the RH bill...

pero ibang topic yan! hehe
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: PeopleSupport on Aug 20, 2012, 01:50 AM
^murder promoter? never understood why people connect murder to the RH bill...

pero ibang topic yan! hehe

Yes ibang topic ito.
I just wanted to respond to plagiarism allegation of many to Sen. Sotto,  
that in my opinion is "Ok lang maging plagiarist wag lang MURDER PROMOTER."

"Abortion" or as you have said "Murder" as being connected to RH Bill is because some people who are supporting RH Bill like people from Likhaan.Org are openly pushing for legalized abortion in the Philippines.

Please watch their video:  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL42DABB71810AF4C9&v=qUgZSBc_asc&feature=player_embedded



Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: nanashi on Aug 20, 2012, 07:10 AM
Bakit sa ba plagiarism na napunta ang usapan? Di ba RH Bill ang issue dito? Nasilip lang yan na butas ng mga Pro-RH.. Wala na bang ibang pwedeng ibato?

Ok lang maging plagiarist wag lang MURDER PROMOTER.
As we all know from likhaan.org's Agaw Buhay Video.. Tsk! Tsk!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL42DABB71810AF4C9&v=qUgZSBc_asc&feature=player_embedded


See the topic name. It's the plagiarism being primary discuss here the RH bill is secondary.


One more hting to add to this waging flame. Minamaliit ni Sen Sotto mga blogger...

 “Ba't ko naman iko-quote 'yung blogger? Blogger lang 'yun,"

Naalala ko pa may commercial tayo na huwag maliitin ang ating sarili sa pagdugtong ng ating trabahao ng salitang "lang"

Magsasaka lang po ako. Mali Isa ka magsasaka.

Ito naman Senator na ito ang lakas mang "lang" ng isang indibidwal.
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: akoni on Aug 20, 2012, 07:34 AM
I think that's part of PeopleSupport views regarding Tito Sotto issues of plagiarism, same with mine, Bakit yan ang tinutukan nila bakit hindi yong tanong ni Sotto na hindi nila masagot. well, ika nga nila..."The best defense is offense". Bad offense nga lang coz its personal.  :hihi:

Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: smile on Aug 20, 2012, 10:10 AM
I think Sotto's staff, especially his speech writer, must learn article spinning... para di halatang nangopya lang sa blog.:-(
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: bajoyjoy on Aug 20, 2012, 09:27 PM


Ok lang maging plagiarist wag lang MURDER PROMOTER
I hope you are not serious with that statement.

Mas maiging matuto tayo sa mga pagkakamali ng mga personalidad na binanggit (kahit ayaw umamin na nagkamali sila)-- at yan ay hwag magbitaw ng mga sweeping statements. kaya napaparatangang isip-wanbol si tito sotto dahil sa IRRESPONSIBLE COMMENTS/STATEMENTS na pinagsasabi sa tv ng hindi muna ginagamit ang isip. Mag-isip muna bago magsalita lalo sa mga public figures na tinitingala supposedly ng madla.
i think people are making to big a deal with this and are losing the whole point, which is the RH bill...

it is not a contest and i think medical yung "plagiarized" part of the speech so obvious na di galing sa utak ni Sotto or staff niya  ung nakasulat dun, so IMHO, ok lang yung ginawa niya..

Ang PLAGIARISM ay hindi tinitignan ang SUBSTANCE or validity or correctness (in this case medical studies) nung statement na allegedly kinopya- but the FORM or MERE FACT OF COPYING WITHOUT ATTRIBUTION TO THE PERSON WHOM YOU GOT THE EXACT WORDS FROM.

Ang punto ko, ang credibility ni Sotto ang na-"abort" sa mga ginawa at sinabi ng kampo nya, e sha pa naman ang pangunahing boses ng senado laban sa RH bill.

Maniniwala pa ba kayo sa kanya bilang majority leader gayong alam nyo na DI NAMAN TALAGA NYA PINAG-ARALAN NG PERSONAL ANG MGA MEDICAL CLAIMS NA DINISCUSS NYA (otherwise dapat hiningi nya ung source ng staff nya or dinouble check man lang to know exactly what the study said). And in HIS OWN WORDS-- BLOGGER LANG yung pinagkopyahan nya (kaya no need to cite)? Sya nga walang tiwala, tapos tayo maniniwala?

Napakabigat na usapin ang RH bill tapos di man lang bigyan ng tamang pagpapahalaga at magsagawa ng matinong pag-aaral ang mga taong sumulat ng speech nya? Kahit maging maluwag pa tayo dun sa fact na di na nagresearch, pero yung nanjan na yung research materials, sasabihin na lang in your own words, hindi pa nagawa? Yun naman ang napaka-hirap intindihin, dahil gaya nga ng sabi ni Smile, ang mga bloggers nga nag-sspin ng articles (and i believe ung articles na iniispin ay tinatawag na PLR or private label rights, meaning pwede mong kopyahin as is kasi walang reserved copyright; pero iniispin/nirerewrite/rephrase kasi pag hindi, macclassify na duplicate content which search engines frown upon).

Maniniwala ka pa ba sa kanya pagtapos natin malaman na ung Diane pills na sinabi nyang dahilan ng pagkamatay ng anak nya e, 3 yrs after namatay un anak nya saka pa lang naintroduce sa market yung Diane?

maniniwala ka pa ba sa kanya sa usapin ng RH BILL knowing na ang chief of staff/ legal adviser e sinabi on national tv na:

1. "Blogs belong to the public domain, meant to be shared and not copyrighted"

NOT TRUE. All original literary/artistic works (including articles among others) ARE COPYRIGHT PROTECTED FROM MOMENT OF CREATION. - Intellectual Prop Code of the Phils

2. The government is exempt from copyright law/rule

NOT TRUE. Generally, Walang exemption sa copyright laws, pero may LIMITATION ON COPYRIGHTS. For one, Pwedeng GAMITIN NG GOBYERNO ang copyrighted materials for educational or public info purposes BUT ALWAYS WITH THE CONDITION OF PROPER ATTRIBUTION/CITATION. And even if walang ganyang condition, bilang senador, Sotto should not hide under his public office's mantle of protection (immunity from suits), out of decency and delicadesa man lang. Paano kung ang state-owned broadcasting network sa China gumawa ng Eat Bulaga China ng walang pahintulot o pasabi sa kanila, at ibalik sa kanya yung justification na the govt (of China) is exempt from copyright laws? hindi malayo mangyari, haywan ko na lang kay tito sen ano isasagot nya pag nakita nya ang "bayan ni juan" naging "bayan ni Huang".

Sa totoo lang, nung nagsimula ang mga gulo na yan, di ko pinag aaksayahan ng panahon, pero habang tumatagal kasi sobrang ridiculous na ng mga pinagsasabi nung lawyer, sila na lang ni tito sen ang naniniwala sa isat isa at nagmumukang clowns. Kaya pinapatulan ko na rin ang topic kasi pinapalaganap nila ang kanilang virus of misinformation, with so much arrogance pa.

Bakit yan ang tinutukan nila bakit hindi yong tanong ni Sotto na hindi nila masagot.
no offense but imho NEVER naman nalihis ang isyu. Sa isip ko naman malinaw na ang pangunahing isyu pa rin ang RH BILL, naniniwala din ako na di ganun kadaling iligaw ang mga may mapanuring isip na sumusubaybay dito. Yung mga isip wanbol yun ang mga naligaw na talaga ang isip. Confident naman ako na walang taga-PMT ang ka-alumni nya sa Wanbol right?

Kaya wag sana natin ipagkaila na mabigat na isyu din ang pangongopya ng akda ng iba. Kung ang inyo bang anak bigyan ng assignment na essay, gusto nyo bang magsubmit sya ng napakagandang talumpati na direktang kinuha sa internet? Sabihin nating ang titser nya ay naimpress at binigyan sya ng 98%, matutuwa ba kayo gayong alam nyong walang natutunan ang anak nyo at ang markang nakuha nya e nangangahulugan na 98% sya kagaling pagdating sa pangongopya? Tapos icoconfront nyo sya sa ginawa at idedenay na parang ikaw pa ang pagmumukhaing tanga? paano kung sagutin kayo ng anak nyo, "papa/mama, ok lang naman yun bakit si sen sotto sabi ok lang magcopy-paste ng galing sa internet diba? Mas marunong pa kayo sa senador? saka ok lang yun, kesa naman gumamit ako ng condom/pills sa prom night at maging MURDER PROMOTER diba? Speaking of, magkaka-apo na kayo early next year, sakto before ako mag 16yrs old". 

Hindi pa ako magulang, pero tingin ko naman mali na kukunsintihin natin yang ganyang kabaluktot na pagiisip na maaring masagap ng mga mag-aaral. At lalo naman kung senador o abugado ang panggagalingan ng ganyang katwiran.

And just to clarify also, tama si nanashi na ang usapan dito sa thread ay ung speech ni sotto na plagiarized and the numerous subsequent faus pax, dahil mukang hahaba pa ang usaan na yan dahil nga ayaw tanggapin ang kanilang naging pagkakamali at gusto lang pagtakpan ang unang pagsisinungaling ng mas madami pang kasinungalingan. Anywy, i think may ibang thread ng ginawa para sa usaping rh bill, we can discuss the pro's and con's in depth there.


Post Merge: Aug 20, 2012, 09:35 PM

Anyway, another editorial about the subject:

'Iskul Bukol in the Senate'
Inquirer.net

The circumstances surrounding the acts of plagiarism committed by Sen. Vicente Sotto III, in the first two installments of his controversial “turno en contra” speech at the Senate last week, are so comical, so ridiculous, they invite disbelief. Did Sotto, the majority leader, really tell ANC’s Karen Davila that he was not obliged to attribute the passage he and his staff lifted almost word for word, comma for misplaced comma, from American blogger Sarah Pope because “blogger lang ’yon [she’s only a blogger]”?

Did his chief of staff, lawyer Hector Villacorta, really leave an extended comment in Pope’s blog that became an instant classic of offensive stupidity phrased in legal gobbledygook? “We are both indebted to the book’s author [Natasha Campbell-McBride] but if you wish that you also be credited with the contents of the book, let this be your affirmation. I can do it and by this message, I am doing it.”

Did Villacorta really tell GMA News, after news broke that the second part of Sotto’s speech also had at least three instances of outright plagiarism, as pointed out by the likes of prizewinning novelist Miguel Syjuco, that one can appropriate anything from the Internet? “Yes, the Internet is a free range of ideas for the world to see. It’s in the free atmosphere.”

And did Sotto really say to the Star (as quoted in the helpful timeline prepared by Filipino Freethinkers, whose blogger Alfredo Melgar was the first to find the passages lifted from Pope) that “Plagiarism, whether you give attribution or not, applies only if you contend that the contents are yours”?

It is tempting to respond to this series of intellectually dishonest rationalizations, this dumbfounding serial comedy, by simply laughing at the ridiculousness of it all. At a fraught moment in a once-in-a-generation legislative debate, one of the key players in the Senate turns out to follow the academic standards of the infamous Wanbol University—you know, that fictional school in “Iskul Bukol” where one of the most popular characters Sotto created, back when he was still doing full-time comedy, held court as king of school hijinks.

This makes us realize that there may be no better way to put Sotto’s acts of plagiarism and his and his staff’s tortured defense in perspective than to quote that satirical blogger, The Professional Heckler. Out of many laugh-out-loud passages, we choose this: “Yet latest online reports reveal Tito Sotto plagiarized the work of not just one BUT four bloggers to be exact… prompting actress Cherie Gil to quip, ‘You’re nothing but a second-rate trying hard copy-paste!’”

To be sure, Sotto is not the only high-profile personality wrestling with issues of intellectual fraud, which is the bottom line of any act of plagiarism. The influential Time writer and CNN host Fareed Zakaria was recently suspended for a month by both news organizations for lifting one passage from the work of Harvard professor and New Yorker writer Jill Lepore. Unlike Sotto, however, Zakaria readily admitted to the mistake. And according to both Time and CNN, they found no other instance of plagiarism in Zakaria’s work.

Sotto, however, remains a piece of work. He is reported to be preparing a privilege speech this week to defend himself against the charges of plagiarism by claiming that what political operatives call a demolition job has been ordered against him. If only he didn’t provide his detractors with the sticks of dynamite himself. As The Professional Heckler’s own tagline reminds us: “The problem with political jokes is they get elected.”

But, important as the issue of plagiarism is, the deeper issue in the Philippines is the fate of the long-awaited Reproductive Health bill. It is here where the real import of Sotto’s cut-and-paste approach to his speeches can be seen. He is ready to use everything—the work of bloggers he does not deign to acknowledge, dubious or at least ambiguous research, the sloppy legal justifications of his staff, even emotional blackmail—to stop the bill from becoming law. That is the real joke, but nobody’s laughing.
 
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: totscalilari on Aug 20, 2012, 09:54 PM
^ok, it is not okay to plagiarize.  :D
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: PeopleSupport on Aug 20, 2012, 10:02 PM
"Ok lang maging plagiarist wag lang MURDER PROMOTER." - Yes! I'm serious with this statement.

I'll keep fighting for life.. it's what we have and it's what the unborn must have. 

Kahit anong deny nyo.. Legalized Abortion ang ultimate goal ng mga proponents ng bill na ito..
 
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: nanashi on Aug 20, 2012, 10:06 PM
Base on my history reading a plagiarist started a war. Many died.
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: akoni on Aug 20, 2012, 10:13 PM
John 8:7
And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: nanashi on Aug 20, 2012, 10:25 PM
John 3:20

Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.

If he would acknowledge his short-comings on plagiarism an be humble about it this won't be an issue.
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: akoni on Aug 20, 2012, 10:26 PM
Base on my history reading a plagiarist started a war. Many died.

Could you give me any link on this?
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: nanashi on Aug 20, 2012, 10:38 PM
In concept of plagiarism there are lots which if you would

"In the 1st century, the use of the Latin word plagiarius (literally kidnapper), to denote someone stealing someone else's work, was pioneered by Roman poet Martial, who complained that another poet had "kidnapped his verses."" - Wikipedia

Plagiarius - Kidnapper

Trojan War for example
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: akoni on Aug 20, 2012, 11:06 PM
In concept of plagiarism there are lots which if you would

"In the 1st century, the use of the Latin word plagiarius (literally kidnapper), to denote someone stealing someone else's work, was pioneered by Roman poet Martial, who complained that another poet had "kidnapped his verses."" - Wikipedia

Plagiarius - Kidnapper

Trojan War for example

Is this still the concept of the word plagiarist that we've known today that started a war? have you read the trojan war nanashi? if yes, pariho ba sa ginawa ni sotto?
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: makasabat_po on Aug 20, 2012, 11:20 PM
 :D Ganito kasimple..Si Sotto ay graduate ng Iskul Bukol..kaya malamang yung speech writer ay graduate din ng iskul bukol.... :hihi:
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: bauer on Aug 20, 2012, 11:26 PM
^ hahaha

gusto rin yata mag enroll dun ni manong johnnie! isa ring bolero.......  di nyo ba natandaan campaign ads nya before? pagnanalo sa senado, ibaba nya presyo ng kuryente.  after manalo, kinalimutan na at ngayon ang mahal ng kuryente!
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: makasabat_po on Aug 20, 2012, 11:43 PM
 :D Pahabol: Joke ko lang yung iskul bukol..hindi naman talaga nagmamatter ang pamantasang pinagtapusan para maging mabuti at matalinong mamamayan. Ang importante ay 'intellectual honesty'. Kung hindi mo alam ang isang bagay eh wag ka magpanggap na alam mo. Be a lover not a robber of knowledge.

Ang nagyari kay Sotto ay maaring tip of the iceberg lang. Hindi lang kasi speech ang pinagagawa ng mga tamad na mambabatas sa kanilang staff. How law is being made? How to draft a resolution? Who drafts a resolution? Most of the time, staff lang din ang nagdadraft ng resolutions ng kjongreso man o senado. Ito ay ipinapasa later on sa relevant committees. Kung tungkol s alabor s alabor committee, kung tungkol sa foreign affairs ang resolution eh di sa committee on foreign affairs pero madalas sa hindi, staff talaga ang gumagawa ng mga trabahong ito. Maliban kay Joker Arroyo na iisa lang ang staff (driver pa nya yun) Joker writes his own speech and resolutions. Pero karamihan sa kanila aasa talaga sa staff, hindi pa dahil hindi nila alam gawin o hindi pinag-aralang gawin. Madalas sa hindi 'pinsusweldo' din kasi ng gobyerno ang mga staff ng congress at senate. So ganun, pero dapat bilang lawmaker nagveverufy ka din o nag-eedit ka ng mga bagay na sinusulat ng staff lalo't pangalan mo ang nakalagda sa mga dokumento.

Mabuti pa si Lito Lapid sa panahon ng hearing kay Corona, hindi nagpilit ang staff nya na gumawa ng speech na ingles. Ibinatay sa 'capacity to think and personality' ni Lapid ang kanyang hatol kay Corona sa panahong yun. Walang pretensyon. Pwede namang magtagalog kung hindi kaya mag-ingles.

Masakit man, pero ito na sa ngayon ang imahe ng gobyerno natin. Mga botanteng bumoto dahil sikat ang kandidato. (popularity politics ang labanan) Pulitikong nag-aastang artista at artistang nag-aastang pulitiko. Sa halip na ibatay sa plataform-based ang gawing pagboto, dinadaan na lang sa popularidad ng kandidato. Ang resulta? Ayan, senador na si Lito Lapid (Diego Bandido) Senador na si Bong Revilla (Ben Delubyo) Senador na si Sotto (Eat Bulaga eh)... :harhar: See you next elections! Wiilie Revillame for Senator!!!  :yoohoo:
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: bajoyjoy on Aug 21, 2012, 12:11 AM

:D Pahabol: Joke ko lang yung iskul bukol..hindi naman talaga nagmamatter ang pamantasang pinagtapusan para maging mabuti at matalinong mamamayan. Ang importante ay 'intellectual honesty'. Kung hindi mo alam ang isang bagay eh wag ka magpanggap na alam mo. Be a lover not a robber of knowledge.

Ang nagyari kay Sotto ay maaring tip of the iceberg lang. Hindi lang kasi speech ang pinagagawa ng mga tamad na mambabatas sa kanilang staff. How law is being made? How to draft a resolution? Who drafts a resolution? Most of the time, staff lang din ang nagdadraft ng resolutions ng kjongreso man o senado. Ito ay ipinapasa later on sa relevant committees. Kung tungkol s alabor s alabor committee, kung tungkol sa foreign affairs ang resolution eh di sa committee on foreign affairs pero madalas sa hindi, staff talaga ang gumagawa ng mga trabahong ito. Maliban kay Joker Arroyo na iisa lang ang staff (driver pa nya yun) Joker writes his own speech and resolutions. Pero karamihan sa kanila aasa talaga sa staff, hindi pa dahil hindi nila alam gawin o hindi pinag-aralang gawin. Madalas sa hindi 'pinsusweldo' din kasi ng gobyerno ang mga staff ng congress at senate. So ganun, pero dapat bilang lawmaker nagveverufy ka din o nag-eedit ka ng mga bagay na sinusulat ng staff lalo't pangalan mo ang nakalagda sa mga dokumento.
Exactly the point. and to distinguish, LAWS (the bare actual text)  ARE NOT COPYRIGHTABLE. that is why most of our laws are patterned if not downright replicas ng American laws.in contrast, if you write any interpretation to any part of any law, kahit annotations lang, that is copyright-protected.

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Mabuti pa si Lito Lapid sa panahon ng hearing kay Corona, hindi nagpilit ang staff nya na gumawa ng speech na ingles. Ibinatay sa 'capacity to think and personality' ni Lapid ang kanyang hatol kay Corona sa panahong yun. Walang pretensyon. Pwede namang magtagalog kung hindi kaya mag-ingles.
I know, right?! Never in my wildest imagination did i ever think na masabi kong "mas mabuti pa pala si lito lapid" kesa ibang artistang senador.
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See you next elections! Wiilie Revillame for Senator!!!  :yoohoo:
Aga Muhlach and Anabelle Rama for Congress! :D
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: totscalilari on Aug 21, 2012, 01:22 AM
^ hahaha

gusto rin yata mag enroll dun ni manong johnnie! isa ring bolero.......  di nyo ba natandaan campaign ads nya before? pagnanalo sa senado, ibaba nya presyo ng kuryente.  after manalo, kinalimutan na at ngayon ang mahal ng kuryente!

ibang school yan si manong johnnie! saw a documentary sa life ni President Cory kanina.. may eksena pa doon si manong saka ang sidekick niyang si honasan.. bilis natin makalimut... pero lupit din ng pulitiko noon.. buhay nakataya.. pulitiko natin ngayon puro papogi lang alam...
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: makasabat_po on Aug 21, 2012, 01:34 AM
^ hahaha

gusto rin yata mag enroll dun ni manong johnnie! isa ring bolero.......  di nyo ba natandaan campaign ads nya before? pagnanalo sa senado, ibaba nya presyo ng kuryente.  after manalo, kinalimutan na at ngayon ang mahal ng kuryente!

Hahahah tandang-tanda ko ang ad ni Enrile noon. It's an ad na against PPA (Purchased Power Adjustment). Kaya ang slogan nya nung elections? "Enrile! bantay nyo sa Senado!" hahaha parang aso lang no? si bantay bwahahah. Mas bilib ako sa slogan ni Flavier.. hawak ang bola binato patalikod pasok sa net! Sabay sabing "Cute pa!" hahahaha....Joker Arroyo naman ay after EDSA DOS tapos nagkaron ng elections ang slogan nya ay " Ubusin ang mga Korap!"....just sharing hehehe...
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: glady on Aug 21, 2012, 06:29 AM
Aga Muhlach and Anabelle Rama for Congress! :D

naku wag naman sana! :D

nagiging showbiz na ang ating gobyerno  :scratch:
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: Lightwind_99 on Aug 31, 2012, 12:46 PM
Sotto is a Liar

http://raissarobles.com/2012/08/29/sen-sotto-endorsed-family-planning-two-years-after-the-death-of-his-son/  (http://raissarobles.com/2012/08/29/sen-sotto-endorsed-family-planning-two-years-after-the-death-of-his-son/)
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: makasabat_po on Aug 31, 2012, 03:19 PM
 :D Walangya..now Sotto complaints about cyber-bullying, without him realizing that his act of plagiarizing a blogger was tantamount to a  cyber crime (opinion lang) . Ang sabi nya ang importante daw ay ang laman ng speech nya at ang kanyang adbokasiya. Ok magjargon na lang ng magjargon. Pero ang basic principle kasi ng human rights na hindi abot ng utak ni Sotto ay: Hindi mo pwedeng i-exercise ang iyong human rights kung makakasagasa ka ng human rights ng iba. Example: Freedom of Expression: Ok it's a fundamental freedom enshrined in our constitution but it doesn't mean you have the right to crack a joke and shout "fire" inside the movie house.

Pwede namang act like a statesman. Admit it's an honest mistake and you as a senator will take full responsibility over it. Then saka mo igiit uli yung point of advocacy ng speech tapos! Yun ay napaka-basic sa principles ng PR work sa usapin ng 'damage control'. Sad to say, hindi pa rin nakuha ni Sotto!!!! Miss Tapiaaaa asan ka??? hahaha
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: bloomerman on Aug 31, 2012, 03:43 PM
Buti pa si Manny Pangilinan, nag resign at inako ang pagkakamali ng malamang kinopya sa iba yung speech niya. Pero in the end, nangingibabaw pa rin yung honesty at integrity kaya hindi rin tinanggap yung resignation niya at mas tumaas pa ang tingin sa kanya.
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: bajoyjoy on Aug 31, 2012, 03:51 PM
nakakapagod na sya actually, hindi maubusan ng nonsense....

(http://pic.twitter.com/yjN4jKlY)
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: Delta2229 on Aug 31, 2012, 07:55 PM
ang mali kay senator kinalaman nya ang mga blogger talagang hindi sya titigilan ng mga un sabihin ba nmn mga blogger lang
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: glady on Aug 31, 2012, 09:45 PM
Buti pa si Manny Pangilinan, nag resign at inako ang pagkakamali ng malamang kinopya sa iba yung speech niya. Pero in the end, nangingibabaw pa rin yung honesty at integrity kaya hindi rin tinanggap yung resignation niya at mas tumaas pa ang tingin sa kanya.

may I know which speech is this?

very wrong move by Sotto. mas naging foolish sya nung hindi nya inadmit ung pagkakamali nya kesa sa pagkopya nya (or ng staff nya) ng speech.
he's been in the senate long enough not to know how to deal with this kind of controversy....once and for all, he should apologize to lessen the damage in his image....

Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: totscalilari on Aug 31, 2012, 11:45 PM
^speech sa ateneo graduation ata ito... san siya nag resign?
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: Lightwind_99 on Sep 05, 2012, 06:42 PM
I heard sa last statement ni Sotto ngayon daw eh nangopya ulit :D Contrary sa sinabi nya kanina na nag tagalog sya para di sya ma accuse ng plagiarism.

Nakita ko lang ito kanina sa twitter. :D

http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23Sotto/slideshow/photos?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitpic.com%2Faralsd (http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23Sotto/slideshow/photos?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitpic.com%2Faralsd)
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: freeman12 on Sep 06, 2012, 12:42 PM
just saw this one on facebook

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/552070_10151121967473119_1187918634_n.jpg) (http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/552070_10151121967473119_1187918634_n.jpg)
(click to enlarge)

IF this is true, then he just made his alma mater proud (again)...

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/747/1233751994.jpg)

 :watchuthink:  :hihi: 
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: Ironkiwi on Sep 06, 2012, 01:11 PM
Not just once but twice, Sotto para kang si Gary V. hindi na natuto.
 :harhar:
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: bajoyjoy on Sep 06, 2012, 01:37 PM
^thrice na actually, first 2 speeches may portions na copied lang daw from authors he didnt have the courtesy to mention...

^di ko maview images na posted ni freeman.. anyway, heres the comparative texts of the speeches:

Quote
Original Robert F. Kennedy’s Speech in 1966

“Few will have the greatness to bend history: but each of us can work to change a small portion of the events, and in the total of  all these acts will be written the history of this generation.”

Tito Sotto speech or “Sottomized” version:
Iilan ang magiging dakila sa pagbali ng kasaysayan, subalit bawat isa sa atin ay maaaring kumilos, gaano man kaliit, para ibahin ang takbo ng mga pangyayari.  Kapag pinagsama-sama ang ating munting pagkilos, makalilikha tayo ng totalidad na magmamarka sa kabuuan ng kasaysayan ng henerasyong ito.

RFK: 
It is from numberless diverse acts of courage such as these that the belief that human history is thus shaped.

Sottomized:
Ang mga hindi-mabilang na ibat-ibang galaw ng katapangan at paninindigan ang humuhubog sa kasaysayan ng sangkatauhan.

RFK:
Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance.

Sottomized:
Tuwing naninindigan tayo para sa isang paniniwala, tuwing kumikilos tayo para mapabuti ang buhay ng iba, tuwing nilalabanan natin ang kawalan ng katarungan, nakalilikha tayo ng maliliiit na galaw. Kapag nagkasama-sama ang mumunting galaw na mga ito, bubuo ito ng isang malakas na pwersang kayang magpabagsak maging ng pinakamatatag na dingding ng opresyon.

Nagtagalog na daw sya para di masabihang plagiarized yung speech nya. Tinagalog lang nya, ibig sabihin hindi na pangongopya?! Hala grabeh na itoh! Nagtataka naman ako, hanggang ngayon wala pang nakakaisip maghampas ng dictionary sa ulo nya para malaman na nya ibig sabihin ng plagiarism, lalo sa mga kasamahan nyang senador… pinagmumukha nyang katawa-tawa ang senado, wala man lang nagrereact sa kanyang mga “distinguished colleagues”. It’s that same “protecting your own” mentality, methinks. buti sana kung sa kanila lang magrereflect, kaso buong pilipinas damay sa kaengotan na pinapamalas nya. sana naman last na yon.

Pero in fairness, sa buong speech nya meron namang ORIGINAL TITO SOTTO (based on the level of idiocy of the statement), at talagang mapapa-tumbling kahit si lito lapid. it goes:

“The poor needs more children because these children are their only treasures.”
– Sen. Vicente “Tito” Sotto III


^ :D Kalurkey talaga itong si tito sen, wagas. :hihi: ang masasabi ko lang sa kanya…

One thousand and one joys, entire country… Kain, Surprise!
<Isang libo’t isang tuwa, buong bansa…Eat, Bulaga!>
– bjj sotto :rofl:

***
another good/funny read from professionalheckler... "In Memoriam" (http://professionalheckler.wordpress.com/2012/09/06/in-memoriam/)

Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: ferrariEverest on Sep 06, 2012, 02:40 PM
may tv dito ngayon sa lugar ko, mukhang nasa eat bulaga sya at mukhang nanlibre  ng masa.... obviously, mangmang ang karamihan sa panchecheto nya or walang pakialam pero nahumaling sa 'pagtulong' nya.

d na natin kailangan halungkatin yung ibang speech nya. once is enough :D (pero entertaining nonetheless :) )
imagine, abogado yung spoeksperson or gumawa/tumulong gumawa ng speech, pero to hell with the laws, ok lang daw magplagiarize at normal lang daw yun
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: makasabat_po on Sep 06, 2012, 03:13 PM
 :D Palitan nga name nya no? Cheato Sotto heheheh. Yes di naman aksi lahat ng abugado ay talagang updated din sa batas. O hindi lahat ng nakapasa ng Bar ay talagang mahusay na abugado. May isang lawyer nga ako na nakita kong nagsulat ng pleadings eh. I have nothing against bisaya pero for god's sake napakuha ako ng dictionary nung mabasa ko sa sinulat nya ang salitang "inhiritance"...akala ko may salitang ganun bwahahahaha inhertitance pala nyahahaha. It's an english word kaya mahirap sabihing di nya alam and legal term din yan.

Yan ang hirap sa karamihan ng abugado. Pag di nakapasa ng bar. abugado de acacia ang labas pag naka-third take ayun "attorney at last" bwahahah joke :D
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: ferrariEverest on Sep 06, 2012, 03:20 PM
hahahah baka mahilig sa 'hirit' yung abogadong yun :D
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: bajoyjoy on Sep 06, 2012, 04:07 PM
Yan ang hirap sa karamihan ng abugado. Pag di nakapasa ng bar. abugado de acacia ang labas pag naka-third take ayun "attorney at last" bwahahah joke :D
I have very high respect for law grads who take the bar more than once (or any licensure examinee for that matter). Going through it once is already torturous. preparing for those 4 bar sundays and passing it, is a whole year affair. 7-8 months daily rigorous reviews, 4 grueling Sunday exams, and 3-4 months of waiting for the results (when you can barely eat or sleep), and another month to be finally “sworn in”. Not an easy feat.. To do it again and again (to the 5th power), takes a lot of heart, and guts and will power. sadly, it is after becoming a lawyer that they start losing their character, and eventually becoming the most hated professionals of the society (even hell wont accept them daw, kasi andami na nila dun hahaha). i'm like, anyare atorni?! :hihi:

Post Merge: Sep 06, 2012, 04:15 PM
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Ooopps, Sotto does it again

Did Robert F. Kennedy know how to speak Filipino?

This appears to be the gist of Senate Majority Leader Vicente Sotto III’s defense amid new allegations of plagiarism after he delivered the fourth and last part of his “turno en contra” speech against the reproductive health bill.

It took bloggers less than two hours to find out that Sotto did it again.

A tweet from a certain Michel Eldiy at 5:30 p.m., more than an hour after the Sotto speech, triggered online discussions on the supposed intellectual dishonesty of the senator.

“Not true that last part of Sotto’s speech is original. See Day of Affirmation speech of Robert Kennedy in 1966 in South Africa,” said Eldiy, who goes by the Twitter handle, “ChiliMedley.”

She then tweeted a link to the Kennedy speech and later compared it with the speech of Sotto.

Sought for comment, the senator said: “It was texted to me by a friend.

“I found the idea good. I translated it into Tagalog [Filipino]. So what’s the problem?” Sotto told the Philippine Daily Inquirer when asked about his reaction to the fresh accusations.

“Ano? Marunong nang mag-Tagalog si Kennedy? (What now? Does Kennedy now know how to speak in Tagalog)?” he added.

In a separate text message, the senator lamented that proponents of the RH bill were nitpicking.

read more (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/264818/oops-sotto-did-it-again)
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: KokoyHermano on Sep 06, 2012, 04:33 PM
talaga naman si tito sen... may bakas pa ng ugaling jeproks. ayaw sabihin ang source? gets? nyahahaha.
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: sharlene on Sep 06, 2012, 04:43 PM
hay naku..naloka din ako dito kay sottocopy...geez, mag-sorry na lang sya...ganon na ba kahirap yun? or talagang ganon kataas ang pride nya?!?!?!Sana tumigil na sya...nakakahiya na ang senado...

May link na nag-ccirculate asking for 1 million votes to oust Tito Sotto from the Senate but I can't seem to open the page now..i search nyo na lang sa google if you want to sign din.

Please lang...tama na ang mga artista sa Philppine politics...masyado nang nagiging entertaining...I read from PEP na si Jolo Revilla tatakbong Vice Governor ng Cavite? I'm like, huh????baka nag-gagatas pa yun...

edit: here's the link

http://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/1-million-signatures-in-30-days-to-oust-tito-sotto-from-the-philippine-senate
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: bajoyjoy on Sep 06, 2012, 05:14 PM
di naman sya magreresign kahit maka-1 million signatures pa...

Post Merge: Sep 06, 2012, 05:19 PM
May sinabi pa syang hindi daw overpopulated ang pilipinas… e ano ibig sabihin ng sobrang traffic araw-araw kahit may number coding na ng mga sasakyan? Yung nagshi-shifting ng tulog ang mga nasa kulungan kasi 20 sila sa isang selda? Yung 5:30 am pa lang simula na ng klase sa mga public schools, para may third shift na natatapos ng 7-8pm?
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: Lightwind_99 on Sep 06, 2012, 06:34 PM
Alam nyo mas tumaas ang respeto ko kay Sen.Lito Lapid kaysa kay Sen. Sotto ng dahil dito
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: bloomerman on Sep 06, 2012, 06:45 PM
Ang hindi ko lang malaman laman kay Lito Lapid eh lagi nyang isinisingit yung ndi niya pagtatapos ng pag aaral kaya ndi niya kayang mag english at mag speech with confidence... May masion at negosyo pero ndi naisipang kumuha ng crash courses para kahit papano may matutunan siya habang may panahon... Ang dami niyang pera kaya ndi problema kung saang school. Tignan niyo si Pacman, bago pag maupong Congressman, kumuha ng crash course sa UP kung paano magpatakbo ng distrito... Bago pa man maging pulitiko, nakakakuha siya ng honorary degree, pareho silang ndi nakapag tapos nyan... Ginagawa na lang niyang marketing strategy yung pagiging makamasa niyang ndi nakapag tapos... Hay, artista nga naman.... just my opinion...
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: pmtmember on Sep 06, 2012, 07:07 PM
plus factor kasi yan para sa kanya para sa masa :)
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: ngodup10 on Sep 06, 2012, 07:07 PM
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Ang hindi ko lang malaman laman kay Lito Lapid eh lagi nyang isinisingit yung ndi niya pagtatapos ng pag aaral kaya ndi niya kayang mag english at mag speech with confidence... May masion at negosyo pero ndi naisipang kumuha ng crash courses para kahit papano may matutunan siya habang may panahon... Ang dami niyang pera kaya ndi problema kung saang school. Tignan niyo si Pacman, bago pag maupong Congressman, kumuha ng crash course sa UP kung paano magpatakbo ng distrito... Bago pa man maging pulitiko, nakakakuha siya ng honorary degree, pareho silang ndi nakapag tapos nyan... Ginagawa na lang niyang marketing strategy yung pagiging makamasa niyang ndi nakapag tapos... Hay, artista nga naman.... just my opinion...

Baka daw pag kumuha cxa ng crash course eh magcrash na din ang career nya sa politics kc wala na cxa magiging dahilan kapag pa mali mali ang speech nya sa senado.. :harhar: :harhar:
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: Lightwind_99 on Sep 06, 2012, 08:54 PM
May kahinaan si Sen. Lito Lapid at may agenda din. kaya tama yung nabanggit na pang maka-masa nya yung di nakapagtapos. sa akin mas ok na iyon kaysa sa isang senador na mali nga ayaw pa aminin at nagrarason pang wala syang ginawang kamalian. :D

Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: jumi07 on Sep 06, 2012, 10:00 PM
yung bagong speech nya, tinagalog lang ulit na speech from some us senator. nako. ano ba yan. yan ba ang binoto ng sambayanang Pilipino. At least, Man up and say sorry.
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: Lightwind_99 on Sep 07, 2012, 03:49 AM
Panibago na-naman, pangatlong strike ni Sotto nag plagiarize uli sa ibang source.  :wall:

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/09/06/12/bulaga-another-us-blogger-accuses-sotto-plagiarism (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/09/06/12/bulaga-another-us-blogger-accuses-sotto-plagiarism)

Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: missreese on Sep 07, 2012, 06:07 AM
kumpara naman sa ibang senador, eh mas marami naman naipasa na bill si Sen Lapid, sa english lang talaga siya medyo pumalya.. kaya akala ng iba eh mahina siya

re. sotto.. eh sana lang wag na siyang magpunta pa ng EB.. baka dahil sa kanya baka bigla bumaba ang rating.. naku poooo..
Title: Re: Tito Sotto's Plagiarized Speech on RH Bill says "Why Should I Quote A Blogger?"
Post by: Rothschild on Jun 29, 2014, 04:41 PM
sa school kapag nag-plagiarized ka malaking kasalanan, pag sa senado mo ginawa ipagmamalaki pa yan...