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Title: Issues with Redvel
Post by: tops5450 on Dec 07, 2010, 12:51 PM
In fairness kelangan na natin i disect ang business ni redvel if it a classic scam or not. Feel free to take sides and why? :hello:
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: Dodong_Pobre on Dec 07, 2010, 02:10 PM
Palagay ko, medyo sensitibo ang ganitong isyu kaya I prefer not to make a vote.However I just want to post the definition of a scam as defined in Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

scam
Pronounced:
/ˈskæm/Listen to audio
Function:
verb
Inflected forms:
scams; scammed; scam·ming
Meaning:
[+ obj] 1 : to deceive and take money from (someone)
2 : to get (something, such as money) by deceiving someone
—scam·mer noun plural scam·mers [count]

The definitive word is [deceive].

de·ceive
Pronounced:
/dɪˈsi:v
Function:
verb
Inflected forms:
de·ceives; de·ceived; de·ceiv·ing
Meaning:
: to make (someone) believe something that is not true [+ obj]

So just make your own judgement...
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: rds on Dec 07, 2010, 02:29 PM
Tingnan na lang natin after 1 or 2 weeks.

Kung tutuong hindi sya scammer, dapat ginagawan na nya ng paraan na mabayaran paunti-unti yung mga investors nya. Until now, hindi ko pa nakita yung effort na yan...

Kaya't antay-antay pa ako...malapit na...
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: mlangseth on Dec 07, 2010, 11:43 PM
oh no....dumating na sa ganito????
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: piameg on Dec 08, 2010, 12:24 AM
am not sure pa if scammer or not....will have to evaluate more just like whitehats.
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: tops5450 on Dec 08, 2010, 12:27 AM
Magkakabistuhan na pag lumapas na ang deadline :watchuthink:

Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: bobie on Dec 08, 2010, 12:32 AM

^^ evaluate ponzy scheme--you will know the answer. ponzy legacy continues  :rofl: :rofl:

Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: puberer on Dec 08, 2010, 05:56 AM
ang pera kasi pag inutang, dapat may income para na ipangbayad sa utang.  kung ang gagawin lang ay uutang ng panibago para lang mabayaran ang utang sa isa, dun na unti unti magkakaron ng problem.  maiiwasan ang ganong bagay kung sa umpisa palang na di na makabayad ay tinigil na...

kaso ang problem sa mga tao, alam na nilang may problem na, kaso ang ginawa parin, umutang paring ng umutang para ipangbayad sa utang hanggang sa lumobo na ang utang at nagpatong patong na interest. 

malalaman mo lang ang tao na ganyan, pag wala na nagpautang sa kanya. diyan na lalabas ang malaking hiwaga.   :hihi:

ang tanong...  bakit tumanggap parin ng tumanggap ng pera kahit alam nang may problem?  diyan na lalabas ang good that turned into scam. 

Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: ric_TNT on Jan 24, 2011, 01:07 AM
Mukhang tahimik na tahimik na ang thread na ito, mukhang kalmado na ang tubig.

Ano kaya ibig sabihin nito ?

Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: Dodong_Pobre on Jan 24, 2011, 02:24 PM
Mukhang tahimik na tahimik na ang thread na ito, mukhang kalmado na ang tubig.
Ano kaya ibig sabihin nito ?

So far, may progress naman dito...and somehow it's a good indicator for investors... However, I'm not in the sole position to give further details (w/c I also prefer not to disclose dahil may communication naman sa e-mail between investors) ... As far as I'm concern as an investor, there are things to look forward to for the coming days ... Hope things will be back in its place ... one step at a time... Goodluck to all investors ...
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: falsehope on Jan 24, 2011, 02:27 PM
lawyer ko na bahala sa kanya  :boxing:
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: ric_TNT on Jan 24, 2011, 05:10 PM
I am still giving him the benefit of the doubt, but I won't let his bounced checks' prescriptive period lapse. Have not heard from him lately, nakakabingi ang kanyang katahimikan.

If he would not settle amicably (e.g. lumpsum payment, stagerred payment supported with check replacements or offsetting with a real asset) then I will be contstrained to injunction proceedings.

Pasensyahan na lang, I was not at fault.  :yoohoo:
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: DomainWink on Jan 29, 2011, 09:53 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme  :rakenrol:
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: jabulani on Jan 30, 2011, 06:27 PM
well, in fairness to reden I don't think his' was a scam.  It was more of a failed venture.  I could say that he did spread himself too thin.  Andami nya venture na raket style.  He could have better chances if he concentrated on one money making venture, increased his market and improved his system.  This is typical of newbies who want to put up a business that caters to all.  This strategy won't work in the long run.  Sa proposal pa lang na na-email nya sa min nun, bagsak na pagkakita pa lang ng biz nya.  Didn't even bothered to take a second look.
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: mlm_guy02 on Feb 17, 2011, 12:25 AM
^^siguro naman ung celebrity dito ay may nababayaran na kahit paano sa
mga investors.kung wala pa rin ay talagang nagkaron na ng scammers association of the phils.hehehe......  :watchuthink:

Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: victor on Feb 17, 2011, 03:11 AM
^^siguro naman ung celebrity dito ay may nababayaran na kahit paano sa
mga investors.kung wala pa rin ay talagang nagkaron na ng scammers association of the phils.hehehe......  :watchuthink:



For all I know, Redvel has selectively started payments to some of his investors.

Ika nga merong tinitingnan at merong tinititigan.  :harhar: :harhar: :harhar:

 
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: ahock on Feb 19, 2011, 07:02 PM
ano ba business ni redvel
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: puberer on Feb 19, 2011, 07:23 PM
many business  :hello: 
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: rds on Feb 28, 2011, 03:24 PM
kumusta na ang "positive thinking" dito?

sawa na ako sa kakapost sa yahoogroup kaya pwede na dito na lang siguro...puro lang "positive thinking" ang post doon, tapos negative pa rin ang nangyayari...
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: puberer on Feb 28, 2011, 05:59 PM
^ sir minsan ang positive thinking ay delaying tactics... 
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: subconscious on Mar 21, 2011, 03:59 AM
May mag dedemanda na ba dito?

Question lang, kung maliit lang ang amount (maliit for you guys but malaki for me) ano ba ang pwede gawin?

Yung yahoo group kasi parang wala narin mashadong help puro advertisement at quotes nalang e.. Hindi na nagrereply si reden. gusto nyo mag schedule ng visit? libre ako 3 weeks from now, baka meron gusto sumabay sakin..

sa mga investor ako lang ata pumayag na isoli nalang yung maliit na halaga na walang interest at sobrang stretched na pero wala parin akong napapala.

Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: trader202 on Apr 15, 2011, 05:51 PM
considered scammer?
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: trader202 on May 25, 2011, 02:52 PM
mukhang YES na..
:D
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: maika_bax on Jul 02, 2011, 02:03 PM
yes, i think it is safe to conclude that he is a SCAMMER.
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: mlm_guy02 on Jul 04, 2011, 12:45 AM

 :hihi: some people really never learn....  :bahalaka:

Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: Ekimoink on Aug 08, 2011, 04:51 AM
ala ba kayong mga timeline puro kayo chat sa forum parang nagaantay ng pagputi ng itim na uwak. buti pa eh wag nyo na ipost dito na nagaantay kayo ng demanda
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: mlm_guy02 on Aug 08, 2011, 08:41 AM
ala ba kayong mga timeline puro kayo chat sa forum parang nagaantay ng pagputi ng itim na uwak. buti pa eh wag nyo na ipost dito na nagaantay kayo ng demanda

di gawin mo mabuti syo...'alang kwenta mga sinasabi mo!
ang gawin mo..keep on defending all the scammers and just follow my tail...understood!
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: Ekimoink on Sep 24, 2011, 01:07 PM
^ ur d one whos following my tail. ala ako magawa at napagtripan ko ang mga post mong alang kwenta tapus pinatulan mo naman...

offtopic ka na personal attack ka pa.

buko-head
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: victor on Nov 06, 2011, 09:09 PM
ano ba business ni redvel

Sa ngayon yung mga pera ng investors niya ay na divert na niya

                        from                                to     

REDVEL LOANS AND SERVICES       MR OK LOANS SERVICES

COMPUTER SHOPS (now closed)      MR P PRINTING SERVICES

REDVEL'S LUGAW (nilangaw)          Mr. Carinoso Product's Display


Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: ferrariEverest on Nov 06, 2011, 09:19 PM
thanks for sharing, Sir victor.
investor ka ba nya?
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: rhipolito on Nov 06, 2011, 09:24 PM
so meaning buhay pa mga biz ni reden.?
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: ferrariEverest on Nov 06, 2011, 09:28 PM
ewan ko, pero posible yan Boss.
may alam ka bang iba pang details?

post nyo lang ni Sir Victor dito para ma-inform yung mga investors ni redvel
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: rhipolito on Nov 06, 2011, 09:56 PM
oo nga bossing, di biro yuung amga perang na invest namin. dugot pawis yun. thanks
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: ferrariEverest on Nov 06, 2011, 10:13 PM
tama, whether maliit or malaki nainvest nyo.

kilala nyo po ba kung sino pa dito ang nag-invest sa kanya?
to other investors, i encourage u to post here or message rhipolito.

gawin nating active ang thread na ito para aware ang lahat.
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: rds on Nov 07, 2011, 02:07 AM
ito ang isa sa mga nagpasimuno ng scam dito sa PMT...sana masampolan na...
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: happyknappy on Nov 07, 2011, 10:51 AM
thanks for sharing, Sir victor.
investor ka ba nya?

sir investor ka ba?

@sir rhipolito, yes po yun ang balita at ang alam meron rin syang mga items for buy and sell.. sana matuloy na yung usapan sa group..
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: ferrariEverest on Nov 07, 2011, 08:05 PM
^ Sir, wala ako pinaglagyan ng pera dito sa PMT.
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: rhipolito on Nov 07, 2011, 08:07 PM
^ Sir, wala ako pinaglagyan ng pera dito sa PMT.

good for u Fe
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: ferrariEverest on Nov 07, 2011, 08:10 PM
thanks Sir.

may alam ka ba marketing plan video ng LGN & Clixster? paki PM po sa akin.
ano pa bang Pyramiding scams ang nasalihan nyo?
pag-aaralan ko para mavalidate ko kung Pyramiding talaga.
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: ekimonktoo on Nov 12, 2011, 10:26 AM
You know what happened to your so called investments? Let me guess...

This guy run an elective position in our place and lost.

The funny thing is... he is using your money to buy votes.
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: mayk_enrikiss on Nov 14, 2011, 02:45 PM
Mi pic ba tung si Redvel?
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: victor on Nov 16, 2011, 07:26 PM


Baka meron sa inyo gustong bumili ng tarpaulin printing machine for P 350K only.

Go to this URL for details  http://sanpedro.olx.com.ph/tarpaulin-printing-machine-php350k-iid-255760749
 













Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: Dodong_Pobre on Nov 16, 2011, 07:38 PM
Nakita ko narin yang add nya sa sulit ..
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: puberer on Nov 17, 2011, 06:18 AM

Baka meron sa inyo gustong bumili ng tarpaulin printing machine for P 350K only.

Go to this URL for details  http://sanpedro.olx.com.ph/tarpaulin-printing-machine-php350k-iid-255760749

nagkanda lugi lugi na ang multiple business?  paano na yan? 

Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: happyknappy on Nov 17, 2011, 08:39 AM
thanks Sir.

may alam ka ba marketing plan video ng LGN & Clixster? paki PM po sa akin.
ano pa bang Pyramiding scams ang nasalihan nyo?
pag-aaralan ko para mavalidate ko kung Pyramiding talaga.

sir naliligaw na naman ang post mo... unang una walang MLM si Redvel, wala ngang maibigay eh.. (oops buking)

sa nag share ng links na binebenta yung printer.. thanks for sharing...  eto pala yung binebenta nya raw na pwedeng mabenta ng 720k.. hmmm..

sa mga alimasag at sawsaw dito, unless it's something na makakatulong sa mga investor na di pa nya nababayaran... Think before you post, it can help also saving some bandwidth ng PMT..

I understand na Forum to pero the losses are serious.
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: rhipolito on Nov 17, 2011, 09:52 AM
malabo pa sa sabaw ng
nagkanda lugi lugi na ang multiple business?  paano na yan? 



Puberer, malabo pa sa sabaw ng pusit.
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: victor on Nov 17, 2011, 05:18 PM
sa nag share ng links na binebenta yung printer.. thanks for sharing...  eto pala yung binebenta nya raw na pwedeng mabenta ng 720k.. hmmm..

sa mga alimasag at sawsaw dito, unless it's something na makakatulong sa mga investor na di pa nya nababayaran... Think before you post, it can help also saving some bandwidth ng PMT..

I understand na Forum to pero the losses are serious.

Nagtataka lang po kasi kung pumepresyo ng 720K then bakit ibebenta ng 320K ?

Magaling nga sigurong negosyante si Mr. Redvel kung ganun ?  :applause:
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: puberer on Nov 17, 2011, 10:23 PM
mahirap lalo makabayad kung palugi ang mga business.
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: seph8ph on Jan 12, 2012, 02:30 AM
I was emailed by someone asking if I had any pictures of REDVEL/Reden Velasco. Do any of you have pictures of him or can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: falsehope on Feb 20, 2012, 03:13 AM
share ko lang text message daw from reden velasco aka redvel..

"Magandang araw po sa lhat. May mga hearing po ako ngaun buwan na ito tungkol sa mga hinahabol ko na may kinalaman sa koleksyon, at ngaung araw na ito ay may idedemanda  po ulit ako, patuloy po ang paghahabol  ko upang makabayad sa inyo.
 
Alam ko po na malaki ang kinakaharap ko sa ngaun ngunit malaki rin ang obligasyon ko sa inyo at nais ko ng makabyad agad kaya lahat ay ginagawa ko na. Pati nga pagsali sa mga game show na may malalaking papremyoay nais ko na rin pasukin upang makapagbigay ng malaking halaga kung sakali man manalo.
 
"hindi lamang po yan ang aking mga ginagawang paraan, patuloy pa rin po ang aking pangongontrata sa contruction business at maaaring itong buwan ng marso ay makpagsara na rin ng deal para sa malaking project"
 
"Bukod pa jan ay sumama na rin ako sa isang group ng treasure hunter at kasalukuyangnag ooperate kmi sa malayong lugar kung kayat minsan ay di ako basta nkkareply dhil sa walang signal sa lugar na un.
 
Napakahirap ng kalagayan ko ngaun sapagkat kelangan ko pang magipon ng pang file sa kaso, pambayad sa abogado at pangastos sa paglalakad. kasma na ang napakalaking abala at threat ng aking nattangap.
 
alam ko po na matagal matagal nyo na akong inuunawa ngunit sana po ay dagdagan nyo pa ang pag unawa na iyon. lahat na pinasok ko pati ang pagsuon sa mga bundok at delikadong lugar upang makapagbayad sa inyo. ang makabayad sa inyo  ang taging hangad ko upang magkaroon akong peace of mind.
 
-reden

Post Merge: Feb 20, 2012, 03:16 AM
*** ARE YOU KIDDING ME ?!?
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: ALERT on Feb 20, 2012, 08:07 AM
hahaahahahaha...!!! LOL... Baka pagsali sa Beauty Contest, ay papasukin na rin nitong RED na 'to. haha...
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: 2slick on Feb 20, 2012, 10:53 AM
sobrang tawa naman sa reason na sumasama sa mga group ng treasure hunters....
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: falsehope on Feb 20, 2012, 12:19 PM
^alibi para di sumagot sa text at di humarap sa mga pinagkakautangan nya.. in other words NAGTATAGO na..
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: 2slick on Feb 20, 2012, 01:03 PM
sana me alibi na tumataya ng lotto tapos me mga screenshots pa....



Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: laureanoanthony on Apr 06, 2013, 01:06 PM
hi po sa lahat, isa rin akong nagging investor ni  redden velasco, ask ko lang sana kung ano na ang update tungkol sa kanya.   actually ok naman etong si redden noon kasi nababayaran nya paunti unti yung capital ko pero mag iisat kalahating taon na syang d nagbabayad sa akin, sumasagot pa naman sya sa text pero puro pangako na lang ang sinasabi nya at d naman natutuloy.   gusto ko sana malaman sa ibang investor kung nabayaran na ba sila lahat ng kumpleto?
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: laureanoanthony on Apr 06, 2013, 01:23 PM
correction, 2yrs mahigit na pala siyang d nagbabayad
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: Langerhans on Apr 08, 2013, 03:00 PM

Yep. Lagi may dahilan at pakiusap.
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: laureanoanthony on Apr 24, 2013, 12:48 PM
nahihirapan na kong singilin etong si reden,  minsan d na sya nag rereply sa mga text ko pwede po ba malaman sa mga investors nya kung nabayaran na sila ng buo
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: ubermensch on Jun 25, 2013, 08:18 AM
may bago bang updates dito para sa mga kawawang investors gaya ko?  pati kasi sa google groups wala nang bago.
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: jankane on Jun 30, 2013, 06:05 PM
wala den updates dito nagtatago na to..

post nyo pics kung meron kyo bka may makabasa dto sa forum ng malaman ntin kung asan na to.
Title: Re: Issues with Redvel
Post by: ubermensch on Oct 05, 2014, 11:51 PM
nagtatago na din ba itong si reden?  wala na akong balita kung may nabayaran man ni isang kaluluwa dito...