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Title: Solar Panels in the Philippines
Post by: KuyaJosh on Dec 09, 2014, 09:35 PM
Ask ko lang kung my gumagamit ng solar power dito? Gaano naman katagal yung life ng battery niyo?I mean yung life span nito bago tuluyang palitan yung buong battery. Plano ko kasi palitan ng solar energy lahat ng lighting sa bahay namin. Iba din sa TV and Electric fans. Nagaalangan lang kasi ako sa life span ng solar panel at lalo na yung battery kasi kung di tatagal ng 1year~3years tapos replacement na agad eh mag kuryente na lang kami less hassle  :think:
Title: Re: Solar Panels
Post by: george88 on Dec 09, 2014, 10:21 PM
tsaka na ako magsolar mga 3-5 years pa solid and cheap na ang SOLAR PANEL technology for home
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Post by: wolf1935 on Dec 09, 2014, 10:58 PM
Nag pa-quote narin ako nyan sa tito ko na nag iinstall ng solar panel. aabutin ng 40-60k lahat lahat para sa isang bahay. Advice niya sakin mag intay muna ng 1-2 years para mura at matibay na ang equipment. Ung battery pang matagalan naman daw kaso di pa gaano efficient ito para mapaandar ang buong bahay. Intay muna tayo na mag advance pa ang technology, malapit na yan sir. Kumbaga nasa Nokia 3210 palang ung stage ng home solar ngaun pag bandang iphone na bili na tayo.
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Post by: teachmethings on Dec 10, 2014, 08:10 PM
cool just wait for it to go cheap. dati ang mahal nyan ngayon cdr-king meron kna.  :hello:
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Post by: Jayumaster on Dec 10, 2014, 11:18 PM
Yun atang mga deep cycle batteries na ginagamit sa pangcamping, pwedeng gamitin sa solar. May nakita ako dati sa HMR (bilihan ng mga PX na 2nd hand appliances)
Title: Re: Solar Panels
Post by: KuyaJosh on Dec 18, 2014, 12:43 PM
Sabagay masmainam na mag hintay muna ng technology advancement sa solar masyadong kasing makupad sa pag advance at sobra talaga mahal. Pero itry ko muna para ilaw ng bahay lang 16 yung ilaw sa bahay maliit at malalaki.
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Post by: Jayumaster on Dec 18, 2014, 12:48 PM
Start with those flat LED lights sa bahay. Lower consumption and longer life. kaya na sya ng simple Cdr king solar set-up. Pati yung charging ng mga gadgets.
Matatagalan pa ang advancent kasi pinipigil pa ito ng mga oil players.
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Post by: gianpaulo.villoria on Dec 18, 2014, 01:08 PM
FYI, there is an FB page about Solar Technology. Solar Power Philippines (SPP), and Solar Power COOP (SOPHILCO). Lot of basic info about Solar technologies are being discussed. For Hobbyist, DIYers and Enthusiast.
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Post by: KuyaJosh on Dec 18, 2014, 01:40 PM
Nakita ko na yan sir kaso strict paggawa ng account sa forum nila. Nakakatamad at hassle haha
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Post by: Thomas on Oct 07, 2016, 05:29 PM
I'm much interested in having own electricity production,
but needing expensive BATTERIES is a big problem, making it hard to be good in economic point of view,
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Post by: Leapreneur on Jan 23, 2017, 04:15 PM
Any update how much do solar panels for a whole house might cost?
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Post by: wilch23 on Jan 23, 2017, 07:19 PM
Instead of batteries, check out BOOST PACK CAPACITORS
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Post by: rapido on Jan 23, 2017, 10:51 PM
mine 280k - 3,000watts
2 years na po.
 
Punasan mu lang yung solar panel every week
and check mu battery fluid/water per month
so far wala panamang problem yung sa akin

slah my elec bill in half. hindi narin ako naka ranas ng brownout
layo na dito sa amen , panay yung brownout especially during summer
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Post by: wilch23 on Jan 24, 2017, 11:48 AM
Ano electric bill nyo sir and how many kwh consumption nyo?
Title: Re: Solar Panels
Post by: wilch23 on Feb 19, 2017, 06:28 PM
We are in the northern hemisphere, so to maximize capture of sunlight, the solar panels must face south - which will be, for the most time, toward the center of the sun.
Title: Re: Solar Panels
Post by: wilch23 on Feb 19, 2017, 06:32 PM
Contrary to popular belief, being in a tropical location doesn't mean better conditions for solar panels.
The panels used now are fixed so they are effective only for a certain period of time each day, even during sunny days.
Title: Re: Solar Panels
Post by: wilch23 on Feb 19, 2017, 06:35 PM
Being so close to latitude 0 also has a drawback.
For maximum efficiency, the panels must be almost horizontal.

That is not good for our rainy days, which are significant in numbers each year.
Title: Re: Solar Panels
Post by: wilch23 on Feb 19, 2017, 06:40 PM
It's works much better for roof decks than our residential houses' roofs.
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Post by: wilch23 on Feb 19, 2017, 06:40 PM
Slashing your electricity bill in half is meaningless.

Paano kung bill mo ay 400 pesos/month lang?
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Post by: leomar on Feb 20, 2017, 12:04 PM
Slashing your electricity bill in half is meaningless.

Paano kung bill mo ay 400 pesos/month lang?

magkano dapat ang savings para majustify yung expense for solar power?
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Post by: darthjuday on Feb 20, 2017, 02:53 PM
Hindi ko alam kung tama itong kwenta ko, but take for example yung kay bro rapido, 280k for 3000 watts or 3kw @ 80% efficiency ay more or less 2kw, I think kaya nito paandarin 2 units 0.75 hp aircon or a savings of P1,500/month. So yung 280k mo mababawi mo more or less in 15 years. Tama ba?
Title: Re: Solar Panels
Post by: wilch23 on Feb 20, 2017, 03:54 PM
Walang 80% efficiency na solar panels nowadays.
Mataas na ang 50%
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Post by: leomar on Feb 20, 2017, 05:21 PM
in short, hindi practical ang solar power solution?
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Post by: wilch23 on Feb 20, 2017, 08:18 PM
Depende sa location mo
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Post by: richpulubi on Feb 21, 2017, 09:03 AM
Walang 80% efficiency na solar panels nowadays.
Mataas na ang 50%

There's actually a site that will help you compute for the efficiency of solar set-up in your area.  You just punch in your location,the possible angulation of the panels  and other details, it will give you the efficiency.  In Makati, it is only 15%.  I asked a Australian solar energy expert, and he said that's about right.
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Post by: jenofstructures on Feb 21, 2017, 10:03 AM
^^^^ penge naman kung anong site yan
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Post by: wilch23 on Feb 21, 2017, 10:43 AM
Mas effective talaga sa Australia just because of their location
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Post by: darthjuday on Feb 21, 2017, 12:16 PM
in short, hindi practical ang solar power solution?

Sa kaso ni Rapido, practical, kasi madalas brownout sa kanila, pag walang kuryente, priceless ang solar or any generator no matter the cost.
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Post by: leomar on Feb 21, 2017, 05:06 PM
may nagbebenta na ba sa pinas ng cost efficient na wind power generator?
hindi yung kasing laki ng giant windmill ha...
yung small to mid-size lang

i guess mas effcient ito sa lugar na madalas mabagyo?
Title: Re: Solar Panels
Post by: Gineto on Feb 21, 2017, 08:35 PM
When I went on vacation last December, i applied for a patent for my vertical axis wind turbine. A vertical axis wind turbine will catch the wind at a different direction unlike the horizontal type the propeller type it has to face the wind direction in order to rotate. Still under development at nandito pa ako sa abroad pag uwi ko dyan baka next year try ko mag produce.
Title: Re: Solar Panels
Post by: leomar on Feb 21, 2017, 09:43 PM
When I went on vacation last December, i applied for a patent for my vertical axis wind turbine. A vertical axis wind turbine will catch the wind at a different direction unlike the horizontal type the propeller type it has to face the wind direction in order to rotate. Still under development at nandito pa ako sa abroad pag uwi ko dyan baka next year try ko mag produce.

yung napanood ko somewhere nung naghahanap ako ng wind powered solution, sa iceland ata yung may parehong concept... nagmamanufacture na sila pero malayo e...
kung masimulan niyo ser sa pinas and competitive ang price, i will consider...
hopefully it can withstand typhoon winds para maharness din yung wind power mula sa bagyo...
Title: Re: Solar Panels
Post by: Gineto on Feb 22, 2017, 12:23 AM
Ok lang ipost ko lang rito kung available na, pero iba ito dyan sa napanood mo hindi ko pa ma reveal kung anong klase ito pero cgurado wala ka pang nakikitang ganito kahit i research mo, hindi ko naman kasi ito mailalabas kung makikita kong hindi uubra. Kailangan pa kasi ma establish mga standard nito at pinag aaralan ko pa kung paano mag mass produce at mag market.
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Post by: Thomas on Feb 22, 2017, 02:45 AM
hopefully it can withstand typhoon winds para maharness din yung wind power mula sa bagyo...
There are windmills which shut off the production and "turn away" to avoid to become damaged in hard winds.
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Post by: wilch23 on Feb 22, 2017, 09:18 AM
Vertical Axis is the next step in Wind Power.
Hindi ok ang design ng horizontal kasi it can't take advantage of strong winds.
The propeller can only go so fast otherwise the centrifugal force will tear it apart.

OK back to TOPIC ...
Title: Re: Solar Panels
Post by: leomar on Feb 22, 2017, 09:48 AM
ok din yung combined SOLAR and wind powered energy solutions...
yung Saudi nagiinvest na sa parehong solutions...

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Post by: wilch23 on Feb 22, 2017, 09:52 AM
I don't think that is a good benchmark, not for business and not for science.
Title: Re: Solar Panels
Post by: leomar on Feb 22, 2017, 11:44 AM
I don't think that is a good benchmark, not for business and not for science.

one way or another it could be good...
they are diversifying away from pure oil revenue, i guess...

another alternative na kinoconsider ko is yung DAZO hydro power... it is a Pinoy invention, hindi ko lang maintindihan kung bakit hindi nagte-take off fast...
parang 10 years in the market na yun...
any experience?
Title: Re: Solar Panels
Post by: wilch23 on Feb 22, 2017, 12:46 PM
DAZO Hydro Power? Never heard.

Saudi business acumen, I won't bet on it.
Not after they gave away all their OIL to Uncle Sam for chump change.
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Post by: leomar on Feb 22, 2017, 02:02 PM
ito some links, though from blogs nga lang...
may FB page din si mr/engr Dazo...

http://dazohho.blogspot.sg/p/home.html

http://infograpix.blogspot.sg/2016/05/the-truth-about-circulating-article.html
Title: Re: Solar Panels
Post by: wilch23 on Feb 22, 2017, 03:43 PM
Never scientifically proven to work, whatever it is he was claiming.

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Post by: darthjuday on Feb 22, 2017, 04:01 PM
He never delivered, kinasuhan pa sya.
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Post by: leomar on Feb 22, 2017, 04:08 PM
i personally want to try as experiment para may alternative ako sa solar and wind power experiments din...
pero gusto ko puntahan siya personally sa shop/bahay niya para makapagtanong ako kung paano gumagana yung "tubig na gasolina" niya...
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Post by: leomar on Feb 22, 2017, 04:16 PM
What happened to Mr. Dingel and his auto engine that runs on water.

just read a wiki entry about him...
parehong concept ito nung kay mr Dazo na "tubig na gasolina"!
Title: Re: Solar Panels
Post by: Gineto on Feb 22, 2017, 05:58 PM
Ang alam kong concept nyan H2O yang water dadaan sa process ng electrolysis maghihiwalay ang oxygen sa hydrogen at yung hydrogen ang gagawing fuel  ng engine, meron namang hydrogen fuel na ginawa ng Japan. Baka doon nagka idea ang Japan kaya possible din yan.

Yung TAPI Philippines sila ang nagpapa contest ng mga invention na organize ng DOST tumutulong sila magpondo sa mga inventions na magustuhan nila pero ang pondo nila limitado at sinabi nila paano daw nila tutulungan pondohan ang invention kung hindi naman talaga gumagana. Try to search in youtube.
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Post by: wilch23 on Feb 22, 2017, 06:35 PM
Heavy Water ang requirement nyan theoretically.
Electrolysis to extract power from regular water is negative power ata.
Kulang pa technology.
Current tech needs as much, if not more, energy to perform electrolysis than the power that will be netted.
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Post by: Gineto on Feb 22, 2017, 06:47 PM
Yan nga kaya nga cguro hindi mapagana you need energy to consume for the process of electrolysis alone, then doon ka pa lang makapag extract ng hydrogen.
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Post by: PwedePadala on Oct 26, 2017, 09:38 AM
Would love to have a home with solar panel. For now, I'm doing a lot of reading and saving.

I found this blog post (http://www.smalltime.me/index.php/2017/07/20/choosing-a-solar-panel-installer-in-the-philippines/) of a blogger who had a solar panel installed in his house and plans to sell the electricity through net metering. Not a bad idea for a one-time investment.
Title: Re: Solar Panels
Post by: wilch23 on Oct 27, 2017, 05:10 PM
Sa Pinas ba yan.

AFAIK, yan mga solar nagiging viable lang dahil sa govt subsidy, e.g Australia and USA. Dito din, pero sa mga big time (connected) lang.