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Title: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: bauer on Mar 02, 2012, 04:13 PM
the cloud is now rising over the mountain.  from 2.50 to 3.20 range in one sudden sweep!

what's up? keep it coming.....
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: pocoyo on Mar 02, 2012, 04:24 PM
oo nga s' bauer? what's with cloud? maganda pa ba humabol jan sa monday, or baka magkalaglagan na  :hihi: :watchuthink:
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: bauer on Mar 03, 2012, 01:53 PM
i bought cloud when it was 2.50

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i am not privy to any new corporate movement except that cloud secured a 25% equity stake in a resort hotel based in cagayan export zone (enrile bastion).  preparation for online gaming perhaps?
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: vgal0579 on Mar 14, 2012, 09:45 AM
IPVG seals 2nd refinery deal

INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY firm IPVG Corp. has struck another deal with a foreign company in line with its recent foray into the mineral refinery business, a disclosure to local bourse yesterday showed.

“The company, through its affiliate Conqueror Space Ltd., has signed a memorandum of understanding with a Canadian-Chinese firm, giving IPVG exclusive rights to build an operate mineral refineries in India,” the disclosure read.

The company said that, under the deal, IPVG would have an access to the skills and expertise of the foreign partner which was not named.

“The [deal] for the Indian operations will allow the IPVG to expand overseas in the potentially larger, more lucrative markets,” the company said.

This after IPVG signed last month a memorandum of understanding to acquire 100% of New Wave Resources for P2.8 billion and thus give IPVG exclusive rights over a strategic relationship with a leading builder and operator of refineries in China.

IPVG had said it would be entering mineral refinery business after its board of directors approved to amend its articles of incorporation.

The board approval also allowed the company to establish a refinery in the Philippines to refine metals ores, precious stones, oil, gas, coil and minerals intended for export purposes, according to the disclosure.

This comes as, the company, in October last year, transferring all of its assets to a new company called IP Ventures, Inc. to allow the listed firm to venture in new and more profitable industries.

IPVG posted P303.38 million in losses for January to September 2011, reversing the P11.27-million profit recorded in the same period the year previous according to latest financial statements. Shares stood unchanged at P1.28 apiece yesterday. -- C. H. C. Venzon
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: gatsmavi on Mar 15, 2012, 06:42 AM
Ano kaya talaga balak ng IP,dati information technology ngayon refinery na ang gulo :huh:
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: vgal0579 on Mar 15, 2012, 09:49 AM
diversification, kuno?   :hihi:
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: bauer on Mar 16, 2012, 02:00 PM
kaya magulo kasi hindi niyo na check ang changes in corporate set up.

IPVG is now a shell company because the IT & gaming business where transferred to another holding company which we can see today that it is due for another corporate intent & purpose.

hindi kasi dapat nasa thread na ito (CLOUD) tungkol sa IPVG. may nagpasok kasi ng news report na maling thread topic ang ginamit.

CLOUD is not part of IPVG although there is a common shareholder/s.   
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: bauer on May 17, 2012, 12:57 PM
what a nice ride i have with CLOUD.  slowly accumulated stock positions since May 2011 at an average cost of 2.50 a pop.

Now a tender offer at 4.20 for the minority shareholders.  A good company indeed until this day.  A perfect example of good management that protects the well being of the investing public.

Hindi tulad ng ibang kumpanya na laging nasa isip kung paano makalamang sa mga investors.  This is the reason why i abstain from 'basura' stocks even if it is showing more than 200% return.

I accept the tender offer wholeheartedly. Thank you Mr. Gonzales!
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: mikoangelo on May 17, 2012, 01:27 PM
Wow congrats..

current price  of 4.08...tender offer at 4.20....alam na  ;)

Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: Keyboardcontrol on May 17, 2012, 01:35 PM
itong tender offer ng CLOUD, kelan natin pwedeng ibenta sa mga nag offer ung CLOUD natin? medyo heavygat kasi port ko d2 sa CLOUD... =/
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: mikoangelo on May 17, 2012, 01:40 PM
col kaw diba?

wait mo,magbibigay ng notice ang COL sayo kung willing ka bang ibenta yung shares mo at the tender offer price....pero kung mas mataas pa ang market price,sympre sa market price ka magbenta
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: Keyboardcontrol on May 17, 2012, 01:43 PM
col kaw diba?

wait mo,magbibigay ng notice ang COL sayo kung willing ka bang ibenta yung shares mo at the tender offer price....pero kung mas mataas pa ang market price,sympre sa market price ka magbenta
thank you sir. ^_^
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: mikoangelo on May 29, 2012, 02:21 PM
Tender Offer plus dividend...

Tender offer from May 21- June 18..

Stock Ex-div on June 14..

Wow..congrats sa mga meron...
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: Keyboardcontrol on May 29, 2012, 07:06 PM
heavy ako d2. 2.97 at 3.08 ang entry ko...

^_^ at may 0.70 cash dividend! ansarap naman talaga ng nasa CLOUD.

:D

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kaso sayang at nagbenta ako ng kunti kahapon sa 4.15
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: mikoangelo on May 29, 2012, 08:36 PM
bkit ka nag benta sa 4.15?db my tender offer sa 4.2?
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: yllor on May 29, 2012, 09:38 PM
buti na lang di ko pa na-mail yung envelope papuntang pinas para sa tender offer ng CLOUD.

swerte yung IPVG sa mga nakuha ng share 20% (0.70/4.20) kaagad ang kita dahil sa dividend at malas naman nung mga nagbenta. (buhay swerte at malas)

buti na lang meron ako.. at nangitlog din sa wakas sa haba ng inantay... di kasing swerte nung mga nakakuha nung 2.50/s. madami pa talaga ako pag-aaralan para makasabay sa agos ng pera sa stock at makisakay sa hinete... :D
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: mikoangelo on May 29, 2012, 10:19 PM
yung may mga cloud shares and Col client,kailan daw ang last day ng tender offer sa inyo??
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: bauer on May 30, 2012, 11:31 AM
i was surprised that a few had made a call after my posts several months back.
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: Keyboardcontrol on May 30, 2012, 11:45 AM
bkit ka nag benta sa 4.15?db my tender offer sa 4.2?
para ipwesto sa ACE the next day sir. ^_^ pero sayang at nagdagdag na lang sana ako ng funds imbis na umalis sa CLOUD...
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: mikoangelo on May 31, 2012, 11:03 AM
Too bad...isang adventure nalang pwedeng pasukin..its either accept the tender offer or accept the dividend...

http://www2.pse.com.ph/html/disclosure/pdf/2012/pdf/dc2012-4247_CLOUD.pdf (http://www2.pse.com.ph/html/disclosure/pdf/2012/pdf/dc2012-4247_CLOUD.pdf)

--
After tender offer,magiging shell nalang siya, a clean one...may possibility na mag backdoor?

Sir bauer,ur thoughts please... :hello:
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: bauer on May 31, 2012, 11:17 AM
due to the UNEXPECTED NEWS relayed by mikoangelo (THank you po), I decided to SELL ALL my cloud shares right now.

All CLOUD shares sold at 4.19 to 4.18

CLOUD what happened?    BIGAY BAWI?  Bakit hindi pinag isipan muna ng maayos bago nag declare? Kung sa amerika ito nangyari, YARI kayo sa dami ng lawsuit.

Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: mikoangelo on May 31, 2012, 11:39 AM
 :laugh: daming na disappoint ah..kitang kita sa price action...

Ill just wait again after the tender offer and ex-div...
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: Keyboardcontrol on May 31, 2012, 12:09 PM
badtrip na CLOUD! dapat may managot sa kapalyahang yan eh! lokohang Disclosure? tapos tumagal pa ng mga ilang araw? idemanda na dapat yan!
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: thisistheday on May 31, 2012, 10:46 PM
They are sloppy. What were they smoking?
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: bauer on Jun 01, 2012, 09:44 AM
They are sloppy. What were they smoking?

hahaha.......bumaha kasi ng cash, umagos ng hindi namalayan, kaya sinalop uli (talk about 'character')!
Title: Re: CLOUD (IP converge data)
Post by: pilyong_husband on Jun 01, 2012, 10:04 AM
They noticed their mistake that's why they adjusted.

From FB:
arbitrage play: buy cloud at x price. exdate at june14 for 0.7 div per share. apply for tender at 4.20 to be crossed at july 2. profit = 0.7+4.2 - x. % gains = (4.9-x)/x
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: yllor on Jun 01, 2012, 03:24 PM
kaguluhan na sa CLOUD... buy back is 5/share.. trading halt  june 1 and open on june 4..

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ibig ba sabihin na malaki ang kinikita ng CLOUD? or maganda na long term investment.. lalo na at on-hype yung data storage at meron future sa market..
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: Keyboardcontrol on Jun 01, 2012, 03:27 PM
pinagsisisi lang nila ako at nagbenta ako ng ibang shares ko ng CLOUD... di bale.. by monday pag makakaabot ng 5 and below, suicide bomber style na to. XD sunugan na to ng kaha de yero't passbook.
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: yllor on Jun 01, 2012, 03:39 PM
pero kailan yung end ng tender offer nila. kasabay din ba nung tender offer nung nauna or at the same time nung ex-date ng dividend..

di malinaw sa disclosure..
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: Keyboardcontrol on Jun 01, 2012, 04:00 PM
pero kailan yung end ng tender offer nila. kasabay din ba nung tender offer nung nauna or at the same time nung ex-date ng dividend..

di malinaw sa disclosure..
Yan ang susunod na kicker sir. ^_^ First kicker kanina. Susunod yang date. XD
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: bauer on Jun 02, 2012, 05:37 PM
pinagsisisi lang nila ako at nagbenta ako ng ibang shares ko ng CLOUD... di bale.. by monday pag makakaabot ng 5 and below, suicide bomber style na to. XD sunugan na to ng kaha de yero't passbook.

I advise you strongly to keep your calm and keep your wallet away from this stock.  The value has already been reaped.  There are other opportunities, the CLOUD is hazy and you might be blindsighted by the developments.
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: mikoangelo on Jun 02, 2012, 08:02 PM
Ngayon ko lang nabasa yung disclosure nila and either my divine intervention,enlightenment,realization, or merong something fishy nanaman sila pinaplano...hopefully positive especially for the investors...

Zombieland Rules of Survival #22" - When in doubt, know your way out

Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: yllor on Jun 03, 2012, 08:46 PM
sa mga nangyayaring disclosure ngayon ng CLOUD, meron na po bang sumilip sa financial ng CLOUD?

sa ngayon, meron opportunity along the way dahil sa 5/s na offer nila. door way-out at 5/s. waiting for additional dislcosure this monday.....
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: thisistheday on Jun 03, 2012, 10:59 PM
the CLOUD is hazy and you might be blindsighted by the developments.

shall we say their disclosures are cloudy.

I am a bit dismayed that there was never any mention about their error anywhere else, and therefore no fines or even some form of consequence. am I just a newbie to be so naive that I don't know these kinds of sloppy disclosures are expected to happen and had always been happening but life moves on normally? if I am, then it's very discouraging.
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: bauer on Jun 03, 2012, 11:20 PM
sad to say mahina ang regulatory control ng PSE due to the 'boys club mentality'

kaya nga hirap umangat ang PSE among global exchange players eh.  wala na ngang ethics, mahina pa sa enforcement ng rules.

SEC can you please act on this matter?
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: finance123 on Jun 04, 2012, 01:18 AM
sir bauer, nasubukan muna mag open ng SDA account?
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: bajoyjoy on Jun 04, 2012, 09:43 AM
meron na namang bagong disclosure for today 4 June:

In relation to the corporate disclosure of IP Converge Data Center, Inc. (the “Corporation”) on 01 June 2012 entitled “Shares Buy-Back By the Company”, wherein the Corporation requested for a one hour trading halt, the Corporation hereby requests for the extension of the trading halt made on Friday, 01 June 2012, until one hour from the disclosure of the Tender Offer/Share Buy-Back Report (SEC Form 19-1) and the Terms and Conditions of the Tender Offer/Share Buy-Back.

This request is being made in order to give the public sufficient time to read and understand the Terms and Conditions of the Corporation’s Tender Offer/Share Buy-Back of 5,000,000 of its own shares at P5.00 per share, which is separate and distinct from the Voluntary Tender Offer by IP Ventures, Inc. to acquire 20,000,000 shares of the Corporation at P4.20 per share, which earlier commenced on 21 May 2012.

http://www.pse.com.ph/resource/disclosures/2012/pdf/dc2012-4316_CLOUD.pdf


ano ba talaga, ate/kuya? :hihi:
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: bauer on Jun 04, 2012, 10:24 AM
sir bauer, nasubukan muna mag open ng SDA account?

Yes I do.  I park my spare funds while waiting for opportunities in the market.
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: yllor on Jun 04, 2012, 11:06 AM
wait and see naman sa disclosure...
baka mamuti na mata sa kahihintay..
sigurado yung 5/s na offer after na nung ex-date ng dividend at 5M lang yung kukunin..

matutulog muna yung fund...
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: yllor on Jun 21, 2012, 03:26 AM
ayun, naging negative yung ulap, bumagsak sa lupa... nabenta ko tuloy ng palugi.. :(
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: happzz on Jun 21, 2012, 04:17 AM
di ko talaga maintindihan that the majority owner of CLOUD will sell their ownership at a lower price lower than the listed price at 1.00. Selling it @ .9524???? samantala the shares are trading at 3.34 as of june 20,2012...

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Natutulog nga ang SEC natin...walang silbi!!!
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: cracker77 on Jun 21, 2012, 04:38 AM
mga bro, hindi pa ko familiar sa mga tender offers.  may nareceive ako sa citiseconline na tender offer for P5 per share on CLOUD shares. ibig sabihin ba may bibili nung shares ko for P5 or hindi pa yun sigurado? may nabasa kasi akong article na ang shares daw ng CLOUD magiging P0.9 per share. patulong naman. thanks!
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: happzz on Jun 21, 2012, 05:02 AM
take the tender offer of 5.00. Thats the best way for you to get out. Tama po na magiging .9524 centavos per share nalang dahil nga the majority owner is selling the company at that price.
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
Post by: bauer on Jun 21, 2012, 02:05 PM
i reminded everybody reading this thread to get out of CLOUD.

daming di nakinig..... sayang naman....
Title: Re: PSE Stock: IP CONVERGE DATE CENTER (CLOUD)
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