[prnd32]

What are the biggest mistakes na ginagawa ng mga pumasok sa stock market resulting sa pagkalugi?

[pmtmember]

so far sa akin yong mag chase ako ng price tapos all of the sudden nasa tuktok na pala and its about to crumble It happened to me last year

[mikoangelo]

What are the biggest mistakes na ginagawa ng mga pumasok sa stock market resulting sa pagkalugi?

^Agree,chasing the price.....and entering without any exit plans....

[kimrnmd]

bynlee_3...remember when your teachers in college asked you to understand the whole Med Surg (vol 1 &2) then asked you to incorporate Psych, Pharma, Pedia 1&2, then OB 1&2 into it? Di ba nakakahilo? Just think of it that way... we all need to learn soo much and it takes a lot a time, patience, resources, analytical thinking and gut feeling at the same time. Don't rush... study first.

[prnd32]

^Agree,chasing the price.....and entering without any exit plans....

What is a good buy/selling strategy so as not to "chase the price"?  Kasi as a seller, we always want to get the highest possible price di ba?  

[bajoyjoy]

now, i can't begin to understand bjj's definition of "knowing"
he says it's not limited to understanding
but to me knowing one stock (micro) or knowing the stock market/trading as a whole (macro) is still knowing
and he concedes it's only half the battle

^funny sir p_p. hmm, do i make patol... i have a feeling kinukulit lang ako ni p_p... anyway, can i call a friend? ff pls help clarify...


nyt pips!

[spidermannn]

go lng,,be aware, and uminom ng tanduay & chilax....hahahaha...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztk9t_m1FpY

[freefront]

 4 1/2 hours of sleep.....let's see....

QUOTE from bjj- (she's a supergirl princess accdg. to me(leave me alone-it's my POV))

"pano yayaman sa stocks: know what you're getting into-- whether it is one stock you are buying, or stock trading in general."

Reply ni p_p (possible victim sa magulo kong istayl ng pagsusulat at mga walang katuturang sinasabi)

"knowing what you're getting into only means you know and understand the risk and are willing to take the risk
it does NOT mean you will get rich if you take the risk"

mikoangelo- poging walang katulad (kasali ba sya?)

Round 2
 Quote from p_p

"knowing what you're getting into only means you know and understand the risk and are willing to take the risk
it does NOT mean you will get rich if you take the risk."

Reply ni bjj

"it depends on what your definition of "knowing"; to me its not limited to "understanding the risk and are willing to take the risk". that's why i pointed out the micro (one stock) and the macro (the stock market/trading as a whole)"-----> ALERT: it's possible that the second statement is a ninja move- ninja's can do anything!!!

"and re-reading the topic title, it has that presupposition that you will get rich in stocks. the first step to that imho, is, knowing (half the battle is won, if u will)... and that is actually, a tall order."

(Aha! "knowing" is the bone of contention- ff)

Reply  ni p_p na ipinanggulo sa akin ni bjj

"now, i can't begin to understand bjj's definition of "knowing"
she says it's not limited to understanding
but to me knowing one stock (micro) or knowing the stock market/trading as a whole (macro) is still knowing
and she concedes it's only half the battle"- edited bec. she's superfemale

Conclusion: KNOWING that you will get rich in the stock market/trading is half the battle,the "push" for you to start knowing the meaning of terms like RISK, STOCK, and throwing around words like MACRO/MICRO ECONOMICS and TRADING.

>Puede rin na bjj is referring to that psycho. part in this yummy soup. If you know you don't have the ken (the cognizance, the mental perception, the mukh) to get rich in the stock market, what's the use of knowing and  "understanding the risk and are willing to take the risk" and knowing how to spell and pronounce micro/macroeconomics? One can actually do all the above (understand the words RISK,  MICRO/MACRO ECONMICS & TRADING---spell and pronounce them, too). But if you "know" you don't have it in you (the "to get rich in the stock market") because all you know is that people became poor because of it, people jumped from buildings because of it, people committed unbelievable acts of stupity because of it, atbp. ayyyy...hindi ka nga yayaman sa stocks.

In a nutshell, if you are a lilly-livered, chicken-hearted so and so( and you know it) , maski bestfren mo pa si miko at si siomai. kabarilan mo si bauer at spelunkster mo si TSO, wala lang. You didn't make a decision na yayaman ka sa stocks.


Ok na? Maghain na lang kayo ng reklamo sa Commission on Human Rights pag feel nyo ginulo ko kayo lalo 

[J3Patino]

@bynlee_3
Para hindi ka malito masyado sa mga tips na binibigay ng mga tao, ito ang dapat mong malaman. May 2 na style ng pag kita sa stock market. May mga stock market traders, at mga long-term investors. Ang isa pinagkaiba nila ay kung gaano nila katagal hinahawakan yung isang stock.
Trading = short time frame, 1-day or 1 week lang, paminsan mahaba na ang 1 month. Mas time-consuming din dahil binabantayan mo yung stocks mo habang bukas ang market.
Investing = long time frame. 1 year minimum, umaabot pa ng 20+ years.

Kung wala ka pang work, ang suggestion ko is magsimula ka muna mag aral ng trading. Marami kang dapat aralin pero ito ang top 2 priority ko pag magsisimula ka:
1. How to Read Stock Charts.
2. Exit Strategies. (Bago bumili ng stock, dapat may plano ka na kung kelan ka mag e-exit).
3. Practice with play money first. Sa PSE website, pwede ka mag practice muna. http://www.pse.ph/html/STG/index.html. -> At least hindi pa totoong pera nilalaro mo. Though from experience mas mabilis kang matututo kapag isabak mo na yung pera mo, hahaha.

Pag nagkaroon ka na ng work, I suggest mag aral ka na ng materials para sa long-term investing naman.   Pag may steady source of income ka na kasi, pwede mo na gawin yung peso-cost averaging.

[bynlee_3]

Forums. Friends. Wherever.

As far as news is concerned, you want to study the news and see how it foreshadows events over the next four to six months. Having a reliable blogger to analyze non-financial/business information (e.g. politics, philosophy) will greatly help since you're ultimately operating within the social sphere.

People generally tend to act on "news" even if it has no bearing on the company's long-term future. This is a method of exploitation and is useful in attaining high rates of return.,

wala po akong mga friends na interisado sa stock market. ako lang mag isa. hahah
Post Merge: Aug 07, 2012, 10:12 PM

BTW mayroon silang tinatawag na tuition fee. Its up to you how much you are willing to pay for it. 

di ko po ma gets ano ibig sabihin nito..
Post Merge: Aug 07, 2012, 10:14 PM

Para sa akin pick blue chips muna at iwas sa basura stocks.

By the way, I am still a newbie and always will be

ang mahal po ng mga stocks ng blue chips.. tulad ng PLDT.. meron ba mas affordable? haha
Post Merge: Aug 07, 2012, 10:17 PM

^Agree,chasing the price.....and entering without any exit plans....

ano po example nito? expound po sa mga expert dito. please and thank you!
Post Merge: Aug 07, 2012, 10:22 PM

@bynlee_3
Para hindi ka malito masyado sa mga tips na binibigay ng mga tao, ito ang dapat mong malaman. May 2 na style ng pag kita sa stock market. May mga stock market traders, at mga long-term investors. Ang isa pinagkaiba nila ay kung gaano nila katagal hinahawakan yung isang stock.
Trading = short time frame, 1-day or 1 week lang, paminsan mahaba na ang 1 month. Mas time-consuming din dahil binabantayan mo yung stocks mo habang bukas ang market.
Investing = long time frame. 1 year minimum, umaabot pa ng 20+ years.

Kung wala ka pang work, ang suggestion ko is magsimula ka muna mag aral ng trading. Marami kang dapat aralin pero ito ang top 2 priority ko pag magsisimula ka:
1. How to Read Stock Charts.
2. Exit Strategies. (Bago bumili ng stock, dapat may plano ka na kung kelan ka mag e-exit).
3. Practice with play money first. Sa PSE website, pwede ka mag practice muna. http://www.pse.ph/html/STG/index.html. -> At least hindi pa totoong pera nilalaro mo. Though from experience mas mabilis kang matututo kapag isabak mo na yung pera mo, hahaha.

Pag nagkaroon ka na ng work, I suggest mag aral ka na ng materials para sa long-term investing naman.   Pag may steady source of income ka na kasi, pwede mo na gawin yung peso-cost averaging.

hahah hindi naman po magulo. mas maganda nga madami advice para mapag pili-an ko kung saan ako nababagay. salamat sa tips! unti unti ko na nakukuha yung gist dito. heheh

btw, anong mga company shares ang hinahawakan nyo ngayun?

[prnd32]

Additional newbie question for the veterans:  What is your average % annual return (in the Philippine stock market) since you started trading/investing?  Is there a national average released by the PSE?

[TSO]

^ 35% per year over three years. Compare to about 26 or so % for psei in same time frame.

Actual performance btw. Hindi time-weighted.

[prnd32]

^ 35% per year over three years. Compare to about 26 or so % for psei in same time frame.

Actual performance btw. Hindi time-weighted.

Not bad TSO!   So here's the evidence na "pwede kang yumaman (or at least kumita ng malaki) sa stocks".  I wonder why most Filipinos do not invest in the stock market?  Is it because of the perceived risks involved or most people are simply not aware of the potential ROI or is there something else?

[nanashi]

^ Well if you count the rebound of 2009~2010, 35% is a bit conservative average

[totscalilari]

Get investments from other people and invest for them. Charge a management fee while you're at it. You will need at least 18M to turn this into a business you can live off of (2% Mgt Fee per year). GETTING that 18M is a whole different story and relies on a sound investment process, a solid track record, and a very strong network of friends with money.

is this legal?