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Offline dhondiex27

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BIR HELP!!
« on: Nov 17, 2011, 10:34 PM »
hi ask ko lang kung dapat pa po bang isettle yung unpaid taxes bir..ganito po kasi un last 2000 may 2 na bus po ako tapos after 2 yrs. bininta ko po mula noon di ko na po binayaran ung mga taxes at di po ako naka pag file ng no operation hangang sa kasalukuyan.. kaya ask ko lang kung dapat ko pang bayaran un pero wala na po kc akong balak mag business mag business man siguro ako sa wife ko nalang ipapangalan..malaki na kasi siguro ang penalties ngayon.. at pag di ko po ba binayaran eh hahabulin po ba ako or kasuhan.. anu kaya maganda kung gawin tnx.. sana may makatulong..

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Re: BIR HELP!!
« Reply #1 on: Nov 18, 2011, 10:54 AM »
dhondiex27,

1. VAT registered ba ang bus company business mo?
2. may official receipts ba yun?
3. may records ka pa ba sa bus company business mo?
4. kumuha ka ba ng franchise sa LTFRB for your bus operation?
5. may mga empleyado ka ba na hindi mo nabayaran?
6. kumuha ka ba ng SSS, philhealth, Pag-ibig under the name of your bus company?

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Re: BIR HELP!!
« Reply #2 on: Nov 18, 2011, 12:43 PM »


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dhondiex27,

1. VAT registered ba ang bus company business mo?
2. may official receipts ba yun?
3. may records ka pa ba sa bus company business mo?
4. kumuha ka ba ng franchise sa LTFRB for your bus operation?
5. may mga empleyado ka ba na hindi mo nabayaran?
6. kumuha ka ba ng SSS, philhealth, Pag-ibig under the name of your bus company?

 1. VAT registered ba ang bus company business mo?
             4. kumuha ka ba ng franchise sa LTFRB for your bus operation?

         yan po dalawa ang problema ko ngayon..
« Last Edit: Nov 18, 2011, 12:45 PM by dhondiex27 »

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Re: BIR HELP!!
« Reply #3 on: Nov 18, 2011, 02:21 PM »
paano problema?

just answer yes or no each of my questions

Offline dhondiex27

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Re: BIR HELP!!
« Reply #4 on: Nov 18, 2011, 03:34 PM »
meron ako dati 2 buses na nag ooperate for 2 yrs. after noon bininta ko tapos di ako naka pag file ng no operation sa bir yrs. 2000 po un hangang ngayon daw active parin yung mga dapat kung bayaran sa bir plus mga penalties kung bibilangin almost 10 yrs. na di ako naka pag bayad at gusto ko na po esettle ngayon..anu po maganda ko gawin???
« Last Edit: Nov 18, 2011, 03:37 PM by dhondiex27 »

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Re: BIR HELP!!
« Reply #5 on: Nov 18, 2011, 04:44 PM »
^di mo pa rin sinagot mga tanong ni bauer which will actually help in finding the best solution to your problem.

in any case, kung base lang sa binigay mong facts, tingin ko (take note personal opinion lang ito, di ako accountant na bihasa sa tax) magpa-assess ka na lang sa BIR kung wala pang pinadala sayong final assessment notice, yan e kung desidido kang isaayos yung records mo as a taxpayer. yung hindi mo pagfile ng business closure e baka nga may bearing pa rin kahit ilang taon ka ng hindi nagooperate, at kung ngayon mo iffile, pagbabayarin ka rin bago ka magsara (in tact pa ba ang mga papeles/resibo mo?).

last 3 years lang ang alam kong period para sa tax assessment, yung lagpas doon e prescribed na or di na nila pwedeng habulin sayo, unless nagcommit ka ng fraud or misrepresentation during those years na nag-ooperate ka ng buses at nagbabayad ng tax.

kung may assessment ng pinadala sayo, ang choice mo e to pay under protest (bayad muna tapos saka mo kwestyunin kung palagay mo masyadong mataas ang sinisingil or mali ang computation or walang basehan ang assessment dahil huminto ka na sa negosyo mo), or ignore the assessment and run the risk of being charged with tax evasion... or maghanap ka ng pwedeng "lagyan". :hihi: joke lang yan ha.

ung totoong accountant or tax experts, baka gusto nyong mag-advice kay dhondiex...

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Re: BIR HELP!!
« Reply #6 on: Nov 18, 2011, 05:56 PM »
dhondiex27,

1. VAT registered ba ang bus company business mo?
2. may official receipts ba yun?
3. may records ka pa ba sa bus company business mo?
4. kumuha ka ba ng franchise sa LTFRB for your bus operation?
5. may mga empleyado ka ba na hindi mo nabayaran?
6. kumuha ka ba ng SSS, philhealth, Pag-ibig under the name of your bus company?

1. VAT registered ba ang bus company business mo?  YES!
2. may official receipts ba yun? NO!
3. may records ka pa ba sa bus company business mo? NO!
4. kumuha ka ba ng franchise sa LTFRB for your bus operation? YES!
5. may mga empleyado ka ba na hindi mo nabayaran? NO!
6. kumuha ka ba ng SSS, philhealth, Pag-ibig under the name of your bus company? NO!

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Re: BIR HELP!!
« Reply #7 on: Nov 18, 2011, 10:34 PM »
Hi. Parang may in-advice na ako rito na similar case sa yo (though medyo matagal na yun). Ang advice ko is same sa advice ko sa kanya - get a good, qualified accountant who can help you with this problem. And be prepared to pay because definitely may babayaran ka talaga nyan. Ang maganda kung may accountant ka na magaling at matino, pwedeng (1) mabilis ang pag ayos sa cases mo and (2) mabawasan ang penalties mo.

Not sure about the 3 years kasi may nakita ako dati na di nila pinatawad kahit beyond 3 years na kasi walang finile na returns. Ang alam ko yung 3 years is based from the date na na - file ang returns so kung wala kang finile, wala silang basis para i count yung 3 years mo.

Hope nakatulong sagot ko. If you need to ask more questions, PM mo lang ako. Good luck.

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Re: BIR HELP!!
« Reply #8 on: Nov 19, 2011, 07:54 PM »
dhondiex27,

based on your answers, do not talk to BIR until after you received a formal notice from them.

basically, if the records of your business transaction is more than 3 years already, BIR is not allowed to EXAMINED YOUR BOOKS.  But it is true as vicces mentioned earlier, if there is fraud or intention to commit fraud, then the limit of examination for the past years of operation is no longer applicable.

kung hindi ka nag file ng monthly VAT returns (2000 to present)
kung hindi ka nag file nang monthly income returns (2000 to present)
kung hindi ka nag file nang yearly annual income tax returns (2000 to present)
kung hindi ka nag file ng witholding tax returns (2000 to present)

yan talaga hahabulin ka ng BIR.  Maghintay ka na lang ng formal notice pag may dumating.  kumuha ka ng tax expert kapag may notice na.  huwag mo patagalin at asikasuhin mo agad.

ang problema ay lumalaki kapag pinagwawalang bahala.

Post Merge: Nov 19, 2011, 07:55 PM
itago mo ang deed of sale ng iyong mga bus at makakatulong ito sa iyo sa BIR later.
« Last Edit: Nov 19, 2011, 07:55 PM by bauer »

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« Reply #9 on: Jul 26, 2012, 02:56 PM »

hi, help nyo naman po ako meron po akong problema.panu po kaya ito, kasi nagkamali (kaht ako dko na matandaan) ng input sa computer lumbas sa bir me record ako na d ako nag bbayad ng tax within 3 years, wala naman po talaga akong negosyo at trabahador lang ako, ngayon nagpunta ako sa district para ayusin need ko dw talaga bayaran ang almost 10k na penalty ko, pero wala talaga ako ibabayad doon sino po me alam ano po pwde gawin?? kahit pa po pa imbestigahan nila wala talaga akong negosyo khit dati pa or wat. help me po wat pwde kong gawin. wala talaga akong pambyad at almost 10k hanggat d ko nababayaran natakbo po dw iyon. wala akong kamalay malay d ko na matandaan wat input na info ko sa computer..

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Re: BIR HELP!!
« Reply #10 on: Aug 19, 2012, 07:32 PM »
hi, help nyo naman po ako meron po akong problema.panu po kaya ito, kasi nagkamali (kaht ako dko na matandaan) ng input sa computer lumbas sa bir me record ako na d ako nag bbayad ng tax within 3 years, wala naman po talaga akong negosyo at trabahador lang ako, ngayon nagpunta ako sa district para ayusin need ko dw talaga bayaran ang almost 10k na penalty ko, pero wala talaga ako ibabayad doon sino po me alam ano po pwde gawin?? kahit pa po pa imbestigahan nila wala talaga akong negosyo khit dati pa or wat. help me po wat pwde kong gawin. wala talaga akong pambyad at almost 10k hanggat d ko nababayaran natakbo po dw iyon. wala akong kamalay malay d ko na matandaan wat input na info ko sa computer..
If wala ka namang naging negosyo then u dont have to pay for that. But u have to coordinate with these BIR people & prove to them na wala ka talagang negosyo. U also have to find out more details, malay mo someone is using u as a dummy. I saw one time sa XXX or Imbestigador, an employee complaining that his Chinese employer (illegal immigrant) is doing biz in divisoria, using his name sa business papers.

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Re: BIR HELP!!
« Reply #11 on: Apr 15, 2013, 12:51 PM »
Help naman po regular employee po ako sa Makati at nagtayo po ako ng homebased business sa QC at pinalipat ng RDO sa QC as my part time gusto ko lang maging legal ang business ko paano po ang filing ng ITR ko nalilito po ako

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Re: BIR HELP!!
« Reply #12 on: Apr 16, 2013, 02:12 PM »
^ Kung ang homebased business mo ay registered sa DTI as an enterprise, kumuha ka ng separate TIn for your business. File your ITR separately (regular employment at yung sa enterprise) para hindi magulo o nakakalito.

 


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