[rds]

^eto sir ang definition ng wikipedia:
The term Charismatic Movement is used in varying senses to describe 20th century developments in various Christian denominations. It describes an ongoing international, cross-denominational/non-denominational Christian movement in which individual, historically mainstream congregations adopt beliefs and practices similar to Pentecostals. Foundational to the movement is the belief that Christians may be "filled with" or "baptized in" the Holy Spirit as a second experience subsequent to salvation and that it will be evidenced by manifestations of the Holy Spirit. Among Protestants, the movement began around 1960. Among Roman Catholics, it originated around 1967.

yung mga binanggit mo sir sa taas ay considered as major PROTESTANT churches, although even these protestant churches can have a charismatic sub-group. but by the way i look at the definition, and the way of worship, the modern "born again christian groups" and "charismatic movements" SEEM to be identical.

[kithe]

No matter what religion or group you belong, the most important thing is your personal relationship with our God.

[pocoyo]

If you have conviction of what he's selling why not? who will stop you from doing that? its up to the public, Im sure they have also brain like us, and Mike or I dont know who's selling those stuff they have also capital/cost of those handkerchief or whatever, in my opinion this is much better than those pastors obliged their members for 10% tithing at may sahod pa sila.
Post Merge: Jun 15, 2012, 11:16 AMWhat's wrong of sending money to Vatican?

just to share... kaya po sa medicine may placebo study, kc our minds work with power, kaya may book na "the secret", our minds manifest the universe, and with God, all things are possible... kung nakakatulong un dun sa mga tao na nagpapatronage, well let it be... it's their money... its their decision... masasabi ko lang, whatever intentions Bro Mike has, God is watching, and there always a payback time... if not here... sa kabilang buhay... we are just mere humans... who are we to judge? just my opinion lang po

[stockbreaker]

. Again, I'm non questioning your OWN church, im just sharing my own experience which is REALIDAD ng buhay. Why so defensive? If aminado ka naman na talagang may mga hocus-pokus na grupo then so be it. Kahit naman sa Catholic Church may mga anomalya din naman and we are open about it. Besides, if your faith is SOLID your church will not lessen your faith.

Defensive to what? natawa naman ako dun boss . READ AGAIN MY COMMENTS coz' you might have missed some important details. First of all, I know that corruption in different churches are very rampant nowadays. AS what the title says, some of them ginagawa na siyang business. BA's are not exemption to that. As what I've said, there may be FEW but not ALL. That's what I'm trying to point out. There's no argument about this one, because this is a fact/reality.
 I respect your view/opinion, ikaw yan.Just for you to know, hindi ko pinoprotektahan ang BA's. If my comment sounds defensive in favor of BA's then you might have got it wrong. Aminado naman ako with respect to corruption,. But the fact that you are generalizing ALL BA's as corrupt institutions, i think that is something below the belt for those true servants of God.

Next time just be careful with your remarks/comments. Some people might think na ganun lahat ng BA's because of what has been posted in this thread. I don't want BA's to be stereotyped as business oriented church/religion just beacuse of those few/your experiences. I tell you my brother NOT ALL.

[Dodong_Simple]

Again read my first post and my second reply to your post. I didn't imply ALL. Instead, I put MOST but I indicated based on my OWN experience. I even recognized your church as legit as you said.So saan ang generalization dun? Next time, read and understand the whole sentence para hindi maging overreaction ang dating. If you read thoroughly my first reply, ang tinutukoy ko na BAs also do that is yung "pangongolekta ng pera". Then on the succeeding sentence I wrote "marami". Para sayo ba ibig sabihin ng marami ay lahat?

[greeevanz]

Ang relihiyon ang pinakamalaking raket sa mundo.

- Heber Bartolome

[nanashi]

As long there is a exchange or transfer of economic goods like money. It's a business.

[joss]

haj season  the biggest business bonanza of saudi arabia

[happzz]

Like any religious practice,celebration,ceremonies....its a business enterprise...

[Dodong_Simple]

Ang kakapal ng mukha ng mga PASTOR na to...

http://sports.inquirer.net/49989/pacquiao%E2%80%99s-achilles%E2%80%99-heel-pastors-swarming-around-pacquiao-for-money-perks%E2%80%94sources

As usual, mga huwad na relihiyon na naman... Haaayyy ...

[bloomerman]

mahirap iwasan yan, sa hirap ng buhay ngayon kahit Diyos ginagamit sa kasakiman...

[wiggy]

Lahat naman pwede mo gawing "business". Kahit sa bus yung humihingi ng donation for some charity DAW. Mas gusto ko pa bigyan yung lantaran na nagmamalimos for food talaga. That's why we are warned of false prophets.

[palailai]

gambling LORD, drug LORD, Raket for the LORD...pera pera lang yan
 

[george88]

Hala nakalimang pahina na pala itong thread ko...may hindi pa ata nagkaunawaan ok lang yan guys respect na lang natin mga opinions nila basta walang away...Peace tayo lahat ^^

For me I only have one GOD in my mind and heart... I don't care about the priest,religion etc etc...