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Tingin ko kailangan natin ng thread na ganito.
para iinform ang iba kung ano yung hindi legal/potential scams na kumpanya.

post niyo dito yung mga naeencounter nyong MLM companies at yung mga nagkukunwaring MLMs  :D
maganda kung mabanggit nyo dahilan kung bakit niyo nasabing scam/potential scam sila.

Pyramiding
1. vMobile
2. Uniload
3. Core 8

overpriced/bloated ang entry fee nila

vmobile & Uniload are illegitimate businesses.
Pyramiding schemes.



halos pareho lang laman sa vMobile.... sa vMobile 2 poster, 20 leaflet/price list, 20 quick guides, 3 sim card, 20 retailer card (na worth 250 each daw :hihi:)
TANONG:
magkano ang sim card? diba 10/15pesos each?
magkano ang poster each?
magkano ang leaflet each?
kailangan mo ba ng 20 quick guides to guide you?? :hihi: can u sell these quick guides? are quick guides saleable products????
alin dito ang NAKAKAIN?
ang load ay electronic... in other words, galing sa bula.  so dont argue with me na 'consummable ang load' :D

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Pyramiding
3. MOMENTUM KINETICS or MKI
Distributor Package Entry Fee P7,988
hindi pa kumpleto ang calculation ko, pero instantly, sa entry fee, at least P1,750 mapupunta sa naginvite sayo. INSTANTLY.
Grabe ang laki ng kitaan sa recruitment... hindi sa product movement.

contents of Distributor Package
30 retailer cards, pantyliner & napkin, discount coupons for products, discounts for trainings, etc

halos pareho sa vMobile & Uniload, may e-loading component as product kuno

Partner ng MKI ang Big League, Air Load, Sante International



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Potential Pyramids/'New' Pyramids
GPRS (Global Pinoy Remittance Services)

FRONT ROW
ang 'front'/panghatak nila ay MODELING kuno
target market nila college students, usually yung may itsura
P8,000+ ata entry fee nila.

Sante Pure Barley NZ
ok ang product nila pero seems overpriced
mahilig magspin/magopen/magpalit ng companies yung may-ari; dating(?) business partner yan ni Chinkee Tan na mukhang nagretire na sa networking at nagfocus sa financial literacy mentoring/seminars



lahat ng nabanggit ko sa itaas, ay based on first-hand & secondhand (relatives' & friends') experience ko, yung iba mga nabasa/na-research ko.

yung mga kasali sa mga companies na nabanggit dito (under Potential Pyramids category), u are free to express your opinion here. i invite you to post links/articles related to your company.
yung mga nasa Pyramiding category, please dont waste your time.
to all: kung wala kayo mapopost na matino, wag na lang magpost.

i will update the above list as necessary.

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hindi ako active networker ngayon, pero mahal ko ang networking. magandang business ito pag ginawa ng tama, at maraming matinong MLM at networkers. ayokong patuloy na masira ang networking satin at mas maraming maloko dahil sa mga pasaway at sira ulong networker.
« Last Edit: Nov 06, 2011, 08:00 PM by ferrariEverest »
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Re: Potential Pyramiding Scams: Alerts & Discussions
« Reply #1 on: Nov 03, 2011, 09:20 PM »
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    Pyramiding
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    GPRS (Global Pinoy Remittance Services)
    FRONT ROW
    Sante International (Pure Barley NZ)
    « Last Edit: Nov 03, 2011, 09:22 PM by ferrariEverest »
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    Re: Potential Pyramiding Scams: Alerts & Discussions
    « Reply #2 on: Nov 04, 2011, 05:06 AM »
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  • If you earn from recruitments...ALAM NA!!! o HINDI PA ALAM???

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    Re: Potential Pyramiding Scams: Alerts & Discussions
    « Reply #3 on: Nov 04, 2011, 01:23 PM »
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  • Sante Pure Barley NZ
    ok ang product nila pero seems overpriced
    mahilig magspin/magopen/magpalit ng companies yung may-ari; dating(?) business partner yan ni Chinkee Tan na mukhang nagretire na sa networking at nagfocus sa financial literacy mentoring/seminars

    This is one of the reasons why umalis ang mga leaders ng Sante at nagtayo ng sariling company to push ang Pure Barley NZ.

    SRP: from 1920, napababa po namin ito ng 1500.

    PYRAMIDING???

    so far lahat ng matrix compensation plan
    such as Clixster at Business Empire
    - nilagyan ng malaking payout compensation plan para maibenta ang mga products na hindi na madispose dati.
    - Kung ang package ay worth 4K, most likely mga 500 or less lang talaga yung halaga nung mga items.

    Guys ask yourselves:
    "Do I really want to spend my life on pyramid schemes?"

    Please lang wag nyo na sundan yung yapak ng mga tumanda
    na sa networking na nakasanayan ng manloko ng kapwa tao.

    Let's create new breed of entrepreneurs.  :thankyou:


    « Last Edit: Nov 04, 2011, 01:26 PM by engrspyke »
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    Re: Potential Pyramiding Scams: Alerts & Discussions
    « Reply #4 on: Nov 04, 2011, 02:29 PM »
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  • engrspyke,
    kasali ka dun, sa Biosp...?
    breakaway group pala sila mula sa Sante.
    sino may ari, leaders jan?

    ano laman nung P1500?
    3grams per sachet?
    saan gawa ang product?
    magkano ang entry fee?

    mahal parin ang P1500, bro.

    PM mo na lang kung gusto mo.


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    ang problema kasi sa Pinas, mahirap ang maraming tao.
    mahirap tanggihan yung malaking kitaan sa Pyramiding.
    pera pera na lang, kinalimutan na yung dignidad.
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    Re: Potential Pyramiding Scams: Alerts & Discussions
    « Reply #5 on: Nov 04, 2011, 02:36 PM »
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  • engrspyke,
    kasali ka dun, sa Biosp...?
    breakaway group pala sila mula sa Sante.
    sino may ari, leaders jan?

    ano laman nung P1500?
    3grams per sachet?
    saan gawa ang product?
    magkano ang entry fee?

    mahal parin ang P1500, bro.

    PM mo na lang kung gusto mo.


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    ang problema kasi sa Pinas, mahirap ang maraming tao.
    mahirap tanggihan yung malaking kitaan sa Pyramiding.
    pera pera na lang, kinalimutan na yung dignidad.
    ganun talaga ang product sa MLM sir ferrari magmamahal dahil nakapatong na sa bawat product ang commission ng lahat ng bonuses na nasa comp plan. yung Aimglobal nga diba 200 lang pala yung alive pero nabebenta nila ng 1,200...Punta kayo ng ongpin dun bagsakan ng mga pinoy MLM products galing kamada at buying ng volume products para makuha bonuses hehe...ewan ko lang kung may international product dun maliban sa DXN kape... :watchuthink:
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    « Reply #6 on: Nov 04, 2011, 02:37 PM »
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  • engrspyke,
    sige salamat!


    ganun talaga ang product sa MLM sir ferrari magmamahal dahil nakapatong na sa bawat product ang commission ng lahat ng bonuses na nasa comp plan. yung Aimglobal nga diba 200 lang pala yung alive pero nabebenta nila ng 1,200...Punta kayo ng ongpin dun bagsakan ng mga pinoy MLM products galing kamada at buying ng volume products para makuha bonuses hehe...ewan ko lang kung may international product dun maliban sa DXN kape... :watchuthink:
    hahahaha. makapunta nga ng ongpin
    taga dun ka ba? minsan nga meet tayo, dami mo alam na MLM chika e  :D

    pero syempre, may fine line between excessive markup at reasonable patong sa presyo diba. may mga MLM/direct selling naman dito satin na d garapal/grabe magpatong ng tubo
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    « Reply #8 on: Nov 04, 2011, 02:54 PM »
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  • sir ano problema sa uniload at vmobile eh maganda naman products nila...

    I think no need to create this thread...
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  • your reply PROVES that there is a NEED for this thread.


    ah, if i remember correctly, vMoblie or Uniload member ka.

    check mo yung image sa itaas. wala ako makitang magandang product dun. mostly leaflet, papel.

    overpriced ang entry fee 3988. karamihan dun sa 3988 mapupunta lang sa nagsponsor sayo.... which makes it a Pyramiding company.
    ang legal na MLM majority ng kita ay galing sa pagconsume/benta ng products.
    hindi nakakain ang dvd, retailer card, leaflet, brochure, bag, flyer, poster, dealer guide. alam mo ba kung gano ka mura magproduce ng mga yan, lalo na pag volume production?
    tubong lugaw ang 3988.

    mukhang bago ka lang sa networking kaya nabrainwash ka nila.
    para sa mga kagaya mo itong thread ko.
    Please basahin mo uli yung first post above at yung isang thread ko about MLM v s Pyramid para malinawan ka.
    buksan mo mata,  tenga at isip mo.
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    « Reply #10 on: Nov 04, 2011, 03:11 PM »
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  • engrspyke,
    sige salamat!

    hahahaha. makapunta nga ng ongpin
    taga dun ka ba? minsan nga meet tayo, dami mo alam na MLM chika e  :D

    pero syempre, may fine line between excessive markup at reasonable patong sa presyo diba. may mga MLM/direct selling naman dito satin na d garapal/grabe magpatong ng tubo
    haha hindi lang yan chika pag nakameet ka ng mga beterano sa networking industry lahat ng kabulastugan ishashare nila sayo lahat ng mga experiences nila...manenegative ka na nga minsan dahil sa dami eh hahaha... meron pa nga ako naging kaibigan medyo oldies na rin sya now milyon milyon ang nadali sa kanya mula pyramiding at networking marketing this year nga lang kulang kulang sa Php500,000 ang lugi nya sa MLM at sabi nya huli na talaga at never na sya sasali sa kahit ano pa man haha... bakit umabot ng ganun maraming kumuha ng product na nangako pero hindi nagbayad, mga utang na pera, pinabili sya ng maraming heads kahit center na sya at may libre ng heads, inabonohan, tinakbuhan kunwari mabait...
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  • cge meet tayo next time. chika chika!

    awts.. awch.. ouch... tinakbuhan.
    anong Pyramiding at MLM yun?
    sabagay, d na nakakapagtaka yung ganyan..
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  • cge meet tayo next time. chika chika!

    awts.. awch.. ouch... tinakbuhan.
    anong Pyramiding at MLM yun?
    sabagay, d na nakakapagtaka yung ganyan..

    hindi ako beterano sa networking ah... last quarter of 2009 lang ako nagstart tapos laylo bumalik last year tapos naglaylo ulit...
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  • ok lang yun, bro. ako laylo ng about 6-10years. lol
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  • ok lang yun, bro. ako laylo ng about 6-10years. lol
    haha...hanep di na laylo yan quit na talaga yan hahaha
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