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MLM/Networking is Legal; Pyramiding is ILLEGAL
« on: Oct 08, 2011, 02:58 AM »
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  • HELLO PMT!

    since napapagusapan recently & marami pa rin ang hindi familiar at misinformed about the network marketing industry,
    it's my responsibility to share here para malaman ng lahat nang gusto sumubok ng MLM:
    Network Marketing, Networking, or MLM = legal
    Pyramiding = illegal

    main differences
    MLM
    - has saleable, & affordable products
    - a member mainly earns from selling products (either directly or indirectly; 'indirectly' means yung taong naengganyo mo na sumali ay nakapagbenta ng products)
    - mejo mabagal ang kitaan, lalo na sa umpisa
    - ang kita ay based on performance. therefore pwede mo malampasan ang kita ng upline mo kung mas masipag ka sa kanya
    - tumatagal ang kumpanya dahil solid ang foundation , which is product movement. usually, 10-30+ years na ang kumpanya

    Pyramiding scheme
    1. usually has no saleable products
    2. usually 'front' (pakitang tao) lang ang products
    3. usually, mahal or overpriced ang products
    4. usually, mabilis ang pagkita. kasi sa bawat marecruit mo, may kita ka agad.
    5. a member mainly earns from recruitment, hindi sa pagbenta ng products.
    6. ang kita ay base sa kung sino ang mga naunang sumali (pyramidal structure). therefore hindi mo pwede malampasan ang mga uplines mo kahit gano ka pa kasipag.
    7. since nakabase sa recruitment ang kitaan, hindi tumatagal ang kumpanya., kaya walang magandang track record. usually +/-2-5 years lang ang lifespan ng kumpanya


    * upline/sponsor = ang taong nangengganyo sa isang member na sumali
    * downline = ang taong naengganyo mo sumali



    personal background:
    i am 29 years old & i  got 10 years direct & indirect experience with MLMs.
    ang definition ko ng success sa MLM ay maging milyonaryo, makatulong sa kapwa (either gumaling sa mga sakit at kumita ng malaki). based on that definition, hindi ako nagsucceed.
    reasons:
    - iba ang priorities ko noon (skwela-- mahirap course ko, Engineering sa UST; & to be honest, girlfriend, sports & music  :D)
    - sangkatutak na family problems
    - mas nagfocus ako sa paggamit ng products kesa magpalago ng MLM business

    unang MLM ko ay yung FLP. it is a FACT that maraming taga FLP ang kumalas na at naghiwahiwalay... yung iba sumali sa ibang kumpanya (binayaran para lumipat); yung iba nagform ng sariling MLM/pyramiding. hanggang ngayon, anjan parin sila sa paligid, active sa MLM.
    it is also a FACT that karamihan sa naririnig nyo ngayon, na sinasabi, kinukwento, at tinuturo ng mga current/bagong networker ay galing sa FLP at mga nauna pang MLM dito sa Pinas (marami na ako naencounter to prove this... to be honest, hanggang kahapon, napatunayan ko uli ito).

    hanggang ngayon, nagreresearch pa rin ako. inactive member ako sa dalawang MLM at isang Filipino dealership (mainly product user ako ngayon).
    nagiisip ako kung mag-aactive ako dun sa dalawang MLM (na international) or sasali sa isa sa Filipino MLMs (buy Pinoy!, bayanihan!).
    yung dalawang international MLMs are mainly into health supplements.
    yung local dealership ay into organic, all natural personal care & beauty products.
    so basically, nakamit ko na yung matagal ko nang pangarap/hinahanap kong companies (health, wealth, wellness, skin care). pero pinagiisipan kong sumali sa Filipino MLMs na kapalit nung naunang dalawa. pati yung mga kumpanya & products nireresearch ko.


    matagal ko nang paniniwala na, i am quite sure marami aagree sakin, ang the best businesses in the world, & the best & fastest path to financial & time freedom, ay alin man sa/lahat ng sumusunod: (in no particular order)
    - MLM
    - Trading (stocks, forex, futures, etc)
    - Real estate

    so far, may experience na ko sa tatlong yan, (focus ako sa Trading for 3+ years now, which i'm very satisfied with), pero balak ko pa dagdagan experience ko sa Real estate in the near future.



    almost 3am na, napahaba yung post ko. :D
    i hope nakatulong sa inyo, lalo na sa bagong networkers.
    remember, sali kayo sa LEGAL --- mas importante ang dangal/kunsyensiya kesa pera pera. mahirap magkaroon ng true happiness kung nakakuha ka ng magandang resulta sa maling paraan
    be patient, focused & determined.
    seryosohin ang negosyong napili nyo.
    wag magQuit!

    Good luck!
    « Last Edit: Oct 08, 2011, 03:56 AM by ferrariEverest »
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    Re: MLM/Networking is Legal; Pyramiding is ILLEGAL
    « Reply #1 on: Oct 08, 2011, 05:30 AM »
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  • thanks sa post. By the way, how would you know kung legal ang isang MLM company?

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    « Reply #2 on: Oct 08, 2011, 03:25 PM »
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  • The easiest way is to check Direct Selling Association of the Philippines... http://www.dsap.ph/ , if the company is listed, for sure legal yun... if international ang company, you can check the world federation of direct selling association: http://www.wfdsa.org/

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    « Reply #3 on: Oct 08, 2011, 11:18 PM »
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  • kimerran,
    basahin mo yung post ko sa itaas para malaman mo.

    btw, nacheck ko na website nila dati. konti naman laman hanggang ngayon, baka  under construction.

    nakita ko tong video ng DSAP. check niyo to (practically similar to what i said above... they have an 8-point Test :cool2: )
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2gL5SjvwAk

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    « Last Edit: Oct 08, 2011, 11:30 PM by ferrariEverest »
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    « Reply #4 on: Oct 09, 2011, 12:13 AM »
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  • napapag-usapan na din lang ang MLM, marami na akong karanasan tungkol jan.

    una akong nag MLM sometime mid 90's ata yun nung mga panahon ng "bee polen" (sa tabi pa ng nepa Q-mart sa EDSA ang opisina at seminar hehehe).
    tapos, nag forever living ako.
    then, DXN naman.
    tapos may green tea pa!
    at bago yun may 7diamonds, am-way at kung anu-ano pa at kung saan saan ako nakakarating makapag alok lang (hirap noh? hehehe).

    anyway, masasabi ko lang is.. ok ang MLM. ang main problem is pag "saturated" na ang market.
    mahirap na makabenta at mag invite ng "downlines" kapag bukang-bibig na ang isang producto na mina market using MLM.

    BUT... hindi ako tumitigil sa pagkakaperahan basta legal PERO bandang early 2000 ay tinigil ko na ang MLM.

    so bukod sa adsense earnings as one of my passive income, I am now joining a very promising "High Yeild Investment Program (HYIP) system".

    Maraming klase ng HYIP pero kakaiba sa system na ito ay naka design sya to be "Indefinitely Sustainable".
    Bukod sa "ponzi" scams, Alam ng karamihan na maraming HYIP ang nagsibagsakan na at patuloy na babagsak pa ang iba sa di kalaunan dahil sa maling desenyo ng programa.
    yung ibang program ay naka design "to scam people" at yung iba naman ay may mabuting hangarin pero dahil hindi naka design ng maayos ang system kaya hindi kayang i-sustain ang programa dahilan para magsara ang karamihan.

    Ang kakaiba dito sa bagong sistemang tinutukoy ko ay mismong ang may-ari at promotor ang nag design ng system to be "Indefinitely sustainable".
    Pang matagalan at long-term ang design kaya naman kung makikita mo ang "live" Alexa rankings sa ibaba ay magugulat ka sa dami ng dumadagsang mga tao para sumali.



    simply lang ang sistema.
    may dalawang paraan para kumita ng mabilisan. isang libreng paraan at isang may bayad na paraan.

    1 - kung gusto mong kumita ng libre:
     - mag refer ka (downlines) at kikita sa bawat ma alok mong sumali. (parang MLM style).

    2 - kung gusto mong kumita pero ayaw mong mag refer ng tao:
     - bumili ka ng referrals.

    Di tulad ng unang paraan na kikita kalang kung may maalok ka (at depende sa maaalok mo kung magta trabaho o hindi), mahirap masiguro ang kita. at yan ay parang MLM dahil sa MLM, kikita kalang kapag nakapag "recruit" ka ng downlines mo at kapag hindi, wala kang kita maliban kung magbenta ka mismo ng produkto.

    Sa pangalawang paraan, magagawa mong diktahan ang takbo ng kita mo sa pamamagitan ng pagbili ng referrals.
    ang referrals na mabibili mo ay siguradong mga intresado sa sistema at dina kailangang i-motivate pa kaya sigurado ang kita.
    mas marami kang bibilhing referrrals ay mas mabilis ang kita.

    Investment na maituturing ang sistemang ito.
    Ang bawat perang ini-invest mo sa pamamagitan ng pagbili ng referrals ay tumutubo ng 2% araw-araw! sa loob ng 75days.
    Tama, walang banko o lending institution akong alam na magbibigay sayo ng 2% araw araw na tubo o "rebates" sa loob ng 75days.

    Marami pang strategies na nakapaloob sa sistemang ito bukod sa 2% daily rebates for 75days.
    Nanjan ang tinatawag na 2X2 matrix kung saan kikita ang pera mo ng doble o triple sa sandaling panahon lamang. (minuto at araw lang).

    Kung intresado kayong sumubok na walang "risk" ay maaari nyong puntahan ang site ko dito http://www.ivejustbeenpaid.info/ at sundan ang 7 simpleng steps para makapag umpisa ng walang nilalabas na pera. walang mawawala, di kailangan magbenta o mag alok at manghikayat pero kikita ka ng malakihan kung gugustuhin mo.

    try lang.  :cool2: walang mawawala pero may mahihita  :D
    « Last Edit: Oct 09, 2011, 12:35 AM by reluma »
    sa mga gustong gawing negosyo ang Adsense, pwede akong mag one-on-one coaching sa inyo. basta intresado, punta lang kayo sa Pinoy Adsense Guild. kita kita tayo!

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    « Reply #5 on: Oct 09, 2011, 10:39 AM »
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  • Bumili ng referrals?

    Something is wrong here.

    A marketer must know his/her market. You want to sell something to people who need or want that thing you are selling.

    It is foolish to sell meat to vegetarians.

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    « Reply #6 on: Oct 09, 2011, 11:43 AM »
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  • @Dos, theres nothing wrong in buying referrals as a new way of thinking in making money online with my new found system.
    maybe nahihirapan kang intindihin because you are coming from an old marketer's mind set. but this system is different.
    kung may experience kana sa MLM, you know how hard it is to make money kung aasa kalang sa referrals mo na hindi naman nagta-trabaho.
    sa mundo ng MLM, walang kwenta mag build up ng downlines kung mga patay ang mga ito.
    kaya wala kang kikitain if not mahina ang kita kapag aasa kalang sa downlines mo na karamihan ay walang interes at napilitan lang.
    sa bagong system na ito, pwede kang bumili ng referrals para mapabilis ang kita mo kung ayaw mong mag refer ng tao.
    I suggest i-try mo ang sinasabi ko to know more about the system itself.
    Tutal, LIBRE lang naman ang pag member and once you become a member, you can test drive and check it for yourself.
    « Last Edit: Oct 09, 2011, 11:45 AM by reluma »
    sa mga gustong gawing negosyo ang Adsense, pwede akong mag one-on-one coaching sa inyo. basta intresado, punta lang kayo sa Pinoy Adsense Guild. kita kita tayo!

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  • @Dos, theres nothing wrong in buying referrals as a new way of thinking in making money online with my new found system.

    heto ba yung tinatawag na Marketing Funneling?
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    « Reply #8 on: Oct 09, 2011, 01:55 PM »
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  • @allanmm13,

    Im not sure kung ito nga ba ang definition ng tinatawag mong 'Marketing funelling" dahil honestly, hindi ako matandain sa mga terminologies.

    like I said, 2 klase lang ang way para kumita sa new found system ko.

    - its either mag sponsor ka (recruit downlines)
    - buy referrals (these are targeted people who is in the system already)

    ulitin ko, kung gusto mo ng mabagal na proseso, mag invite ka sa mga dimo siguradong tao.

    pero kung gusto mong kumita agad, bilhin mo ang tao na nasa loob na ng system para mag multiply ang earnings mo in the least possible time.

    lastly, mahirap ito maintindihan lalo na ng mga traditional marketers kaya nga mas maganda kung subukan nyo para kayo na ang maghusga.

    wala namang mawawala, pumunta lang kayo sa site ko (may link ako sa first post ko at sa signature ko) at sundin ang 7 simple steps.

    libre ang pag register para ma testing nyo ang sinasabi ko.
    sa mga gustong gawing negosyo ang Adsense, pwede akong mag one-on-one coaching sa inyo. basta intresado, punta lang kayo sa Pinoy Adsense Guild. kita kita tayo!

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  • ^Thanks for the post ferrari. I definitely agree that pyramiding schemes does not allow a free capitalism society since it is based on a social hierarchy. Once the uplines are there, it is impossible or almost impossible (only 1% chance) that you will exceed the income of your uplines. Unlike in insurance, it is easy to surpass the income of your managers and the promotion is fast based on your qualifications and awards in your resume. Bilib nga ako sa mga insurance agents sa Singapore, ang babata pero Singapore dollar millionaires na.
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  • ....
    thanks for sharing.  :cool2:
    mag-inquire ako sayo next time tungkol jan.

    anyway, masasabi ko lang is.. ok ang MLM. ang main problem is pag "saturated" na ang market.
    so bukod sa adsense earnings as one of my passive income, I am now joining a very promising "High Yeild Investment Program (HYIP) system".
    Maraming klase ng HYIP pero kakaiba sa system na ito ay naka design sya to be "Indefinitely Sustainable".
    thanks for sharing your views.
    this is an MLM-related thread so avoid posting about HYIP.
    imho, HYIPs are generally scams. & IMHO, walang 'Indefinitely Sustainable' na HYIP.
    may kakilala ako foreigner na mahilig dati sa HYIP, i'll ask him about this. yung huling usap/PM namin about HYIPs, sabi nya 'dont waste your time with HYIPs'
    @Dos, theres nothing wrong in buying referrals as a new way of thinking in making money online with my new found system...
    as far as i know, hindi yan 'bago'. matagal na yan.

    please create your own thread. this thread is specifically MLM-related & for people unfamiliar sa MLM/Pyramiding.

    on topic:
    malabo ma-saturate ang market, kasi
    - maraming tao sa mundo
    - depende sa product ng MLM, mahirap o mayaman ay pwede mag-avail ng  product/s
    - mas maraming tao ay utak employment at ayaw magbenta &/or hindi sanay humarap sa tao
    « Last Edit: Oct 10, 2011, 12:44 PM by ferrariEverest »
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    « Reply #11 on: Oct 10, 2011, 03:06 PM »
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  • ferrari, sorry to post my HYIP views sa thread mo and wala akong balak i-hijack ang thread mo.

    klarohin ko lang, my new found system is not purely HYIP.. its both a combination of HYIP and MLM. better kung may kakilala ka pala so matulungan mo ako kung totoo nga ba ito o hindi.

    kung hindi totoo... na save moko.
    kung totoo naman, makakatulong ako sa lahat ng interested kumita online.
    anyhow, kaya nga tayo nandito sa PMT para malaman ang samut-saring pagkakakitaan.

    para sakin, hindi mahalaga kung tama ka o tama ako, at kung totoo ang inaalok mo o ang sakin.. ang mahalaga sakin eh kung saan tayo kikita ng legal at kung pwede sa sandaling panahon lang at minimal work (kung meron nun).
    basta totoo lang at hindi lokohan... sama ako kung ano man yun!

    anyhow, my personal views on MLM still stands which is:
    -ok sya pero mahirap na i-push lalo na expose na ang mga tao sa ngayon.
    -at hindi ako bagong hatak lang sa MLM business kaya masasabi ko ito based on real-world scenario and backed up by my long time experience on MLM business.

    ulitin ko... ok ang MLM pero mahirap i-push lalo na sa panahon ngayon.
    kung user ka ng product, maganda ang MLM kasi makaka discount ka by buying the product on a distributor's (discounted) price.

    pero kung dika naman user, di maiiwasan na kailangan mong mambola minsan para makahatak kalang ng downlines. tama? hehehe

    and thats my 2 cents on MLM! thanks :)


    « Last Edit: Oct 10, 2011, 03:22 PM by reluma »
    sa mga gustong gawing negosyo ang Adsense, pwede akong mag one-on-one coaching sa inyo. basta intresado, punta lang kayo sa Pinoy Adsense Guild. kita kita tayo!

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  • ^Thanks for the honesty reluma. I had some bad experiences with MLM. One time, someone told me that I just need to buy x worth of products and they (the ones who invited me who are my uplines) will be the one to put left and right downlines because sabi nila left and right lang daw. Pag naubos nila ang left and right, automatically ilalagay nila sa ilalim ng left (which is me) and right (another person) nila (hope i explained it well). Hindi ko alam na to be an active member, you need to keep on buying every month x worth amount of products. (nanlaki yung mata ko) I wasn't told but since I acted on greed, it just served as a lesson. Ever since then hindi na ako nag MLM kasi napaso na ako.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    « Reply #13 on: Oct 10, 2011, 03:29 PM »
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  • hi mjtfernandez,

    thanks for showing up!
    sa totoo lang, madaling mambola sa "offline marketing" kasi ikaw lang at ang taong inaalok mo ang nag uusap, bago pa nya malaman na binobola mo sya eh aabot pa ng buwan or even years bago nya mabisto na "mukhang nagoyo" sya "one way or the other".

    pero sa "online marketing", mahirap mambola dahil isang "google" mo lang, malalaman mo na kung lokohan lang o totoo ang isang serbisyo o produktong inaalok sayo.

    kaya ako, as much as possible, kahit gusto kong manghikayat ng tao, "kwidaw" ako dahil minuto lang... alam na ng tao kung binobola ko ba sya o hindi hehehe.

    kaya sa totoo lang tayo! :)
    « Last Edit: Oct 10, 2011, 03:30 PM by reluma »
    sa mga gustong gawing negosyo ang Adsense, pwede akong mag one-on-one coaching sa inyo. basta intresado, punta lang kayo sa Pinoy Adsense Guild. kita kita tayo!

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  • @reluma

    You can also google now adays "offline marketing" para malaman mo kung lokohan lang o totoo ang isang serbisyo o produktong inaalok sayo. :)

    So either offline or online man yan, marami ka na masesearch about them.

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      Yesterday at 04:56 PM
    • katkatmachine: thank you sir fE. nga pala di ba nag-ooffer ka ng assistance? si jmces daw papaassist din. hahahahaha  :D
      Yesterday at 04:48 PM
    • ferrariEverest: KKM: sana nga kayo na habangbuhay :D
      Yesterday at 04:45 PM
    • katkatmachine: pasensya na sir fE, sadyang umiibig lang.  :hihi:
      Yesterday at 04:26 PM
    • ferrariEverest: kiriyama: genki? kung kaya niya, 6,500 o di kaya 6,600. Mas mainam check mo rin ang support ng stocks na hawak mo kasi minsan iba galaw ng isang stock compared sa index
      Yesterday at 04:25 PM
    • ferrariEverest: jmces, assistance na exclusive sa mga babae yan ha :D KKM, iba talaga ang dating ng karisma ni labidabidabidabs sa iyo haha :D
      Yesterday at 04:22 PM
    • jmces: YUN O!
      Yesterday at 03:55 PM
    • katkatmachine: @sir fE, sino naman kasama niyo nung nagpayanig kayo sa mexico?  :hihi: kung hindi man ganun kalakas ang samin ni labidabs keri lang, napayanig niya naman ang buong pagkatao ko this past few days.  :hihi:  :watchuthink:  :yahoo:
      Yesterday at 03:06 PM
    • kiriyama: 6.6 index po ba ang support ng PSEi?
      Yesterday at 02:25 PM
    • jmces: ang lupit talaga ni boss FE hanep sa assist :D
      Yesterday at 01:37 PM
    • ferrariEverest: KKM, alam mo ba lumindol sa Mexico, magnitude 7.3? Dun kasi ako nagpayanig. Kaya mo ba tapatan yun with your labidabidabidabs? :D You should kasi pareho kayo babae. Kung d nyo alam pano maka-achieve ng quadruple-triple, turuan ko kayo... lol
      Yesterday at 01:27 PM
    • ferrariEverest: Salamat Madam Prospera at kambal Wills na stressed kuno pero matipuno at young looking pa rin at kay kapatid na jmces na gwapong matulis na coder hahaha.
      Yesterday at 01:25 PM
    • Wills: Faaaaaarrrrrrr from reality,
      Yesterday at 12:38 PM
    • Wills: That will give you an assumption that is not close to reality.
      Yesterday at 12:38 PM
    • Wills: Tama bang ikumpara ang presyo sa kaparehong negosyo para malaman kung mura ang stock?
      Yesterday at 12:37 PM
    • GoodSteward: Dami nagsabi overprice ang century pacific. pero oversubscribed pa din. Nareject yun reservation ko sa COL, nagemail sa akin, wala na daw slot. First Metro nalang pag-asa ko.
      Yesterday at 10:52 AM
    • jpm247: good point hehe
      Yesterday at 10:29 AM
    • jasonmiles: sabagay pero emperador nga 12..eto lahat ng delata sardinas, corned beef, meat loaf at tuna sakop nila
      Yesterday at 10:00 AM
    • jpm247: bakit ang Alliance Select Food (FOOD), pagkain naman pero mas mababa price? comparing it to century na ang business is tuna din... or is it not?
      Yesterday at 09:44 AM
    • jasonmiles: Pagkain naman yan so fundamentally strong lalo na pag may tragedy..
      Apr 23, 2014, 04:25 PM
    • anne21: parang over priced at 13.75 per share
      Apr 23, 2014, 03:59 PM
    • anne21: ok kaya ang century pacific food?
      Apr 23, 2014, 03:59 PM
    • jasonmiles: Di makabili ng MEG.. may AGI naman..
      Apr 23, 2014, 03:20 PM
    • katkatmachine: @jmces-   :hihi:
      Apr 23, 2014, 11:08 AM
    • jmces: kakagising mo lang kkm?puyat ba? :D
      Apr 23, 2014, 10:50 AM
    • katkatmachine: love! love! love!   :yahoo:
      Apr 23, 2014, 10:32 AM
    • Wills: april fools pa daw
      Apr 23, 2014, 09:41 AM
    • regor: US no visa policy for PHILIPPINES is a joke...
      Apr 23, 2014, 09:38 AM
    • anne21: up up DD
      Apr 23, 2014, 09:37 AM
    • anne21: :rakenrol:
      Apr 23, 2014, 09:37 AM
    • anne21: newbie here
      Apr 23, 2014, 09:36 AM
    • anne21: im peeps
      Apr 23, 2014, 09:36 AM
    • Wills: Ang haba ng April fools :rofl:
      Apr 23, 2014, 08:36 AM
    • Wills: WOW! WOW! WOW! Ceiling nga! what a day! :cool2:
      Apr 23, 2014, 08:32 AM
    • vicces: Ceiling! :D [link]
      Apr 23, 2014, 06:40 AM
    • jmces: :b_love:
      Apr 22, 2014, 05:07 PM
    • katkatmachine: @jmces- che! talagang hindi niyo pa nakakalimutan fph ko noh! hahahaha. wala muna akong pakialam sa stock market ngayon. it's labidab's month! buwan na naman ng pag-ibig! hahahah  :yahoo:
      Apr 22, 2014, 04:00 PM
    • jmces: YUN O!sexytime! nga pala piso nlng FPH
      Apr 22, 2014, 02:57 PM
    • katkatmachine: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: napapasigaw sa sobrang saya!  :hihi:
      Apr 22, 2014, 02:50 PM
     
     
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