[mitsurugi]

...lurker mode. Hirap mag take sides, we all commit mistakes, can't really blame someone else for our own...especially in investing.

just my opinion.

[SirZap]

naku baka magalit BF ni piameg

[piameg]

ha? sino ba bf ko? wala pa akong bf, buti kaw alam mo kung sino, kasi ako hindi haha

i just want to clear up my name. the reason why i took out wary_investor to the googlegroup kasi he warned me na sisirain nya ako sa pmt forum pati sa googlegroups so I had to take him out sa googlegroup where im the mods. i have the prerogative to accept or reject members na nanggugulo lang, distracting the purpose of the group which is to purse the investees at hand and then find a solution to our problem. I have to take him out kasi namemersonal na sya. Its not healthy anymore for him to be there, may unstable mind na na kung ano ano na sinasabi, fantasy world na like mga posts dito sa pmt na kesyo ako daw nagflood....etc which ive read to some of his posts. ako na pinagbibintangan nya sa lahat lahat ng bagay which is out of line na. He also told me na ipapahiya nya ako sa pmt at sisiraan so here he is finding what he can to shame me or tarnish my name.
Post Merge: Dec 22, 2010, 01:15 AMI told him na yung isang member ng voltes5 group na lang nila kakausapin ko kasi grabe na sya mga confidential info. ay ginagamit na nya against me like making blind items here na I used daw their money for my china and palawan trips. I have my own money and never did I use their money because im not the investee here. Im also an investor so I have money from my investments which is definitely not their money. I dont trust him anymore so I will only talk to his groupmate as their representative. I dont want to talk to an unstable minded guy whose only purpose is to tarnish my name - use whatever I'll say and then post it out. I thought he was a friend but found him to be a traitor and will use any hole he can find against me. 
Post Merge: Dec 22, 2010, 01:19 AMI wanted to make a thread naman sana na ISSUES with WARY_INVESTOR pero sabi ng isang pmt friend, dont go down to his level na lang daw so I didnt. I'll let him be. Then so be it.
Post Merge: Dec 22, 2010, 01:28 AMMerry Christmas everyone including the TS! ceasefire din muna ako in respect of the Christmas.

[victor]

si sir tops sabi nya side by side or 2 side pero parang nasa side lang din sya ni piameg 
my 2 cents ....

Baka naman ang ibig sabihin ni sir tops ng 2 sides eh DOBLE KARA !   

[SirZap]

ha? sino ba bf ko? wala pa akong bf, buti kaw alam mo kung sino, kasi ako hindi haha

huh?! wala pa ba? so kasapi ka rin pala sa SMP, Samahan ng Malamig ang Pasko 

alam ko na kung bakit wala pa.... kasi basted yata yung TS 

[ric_TNT]

huh?! wala pa ba? so kasapi ka rin pala sa SMP, Samahan ng Malamig ang Pasko 

alam ko na kung bakit wala pa.... kasi basted yata yung TS 

O baka naman (sabi ng mga bading) wala siyang K  (joke onli).

Or baka naman sobrang taas ng pamantayan ni Ms Piameg sa pagpili ng BF. Balak ko pa naman pumila kasi SMP member din ako. 

Ako'y sawi, subali't mapalad naman sa inyong pagkalinga.
 

[wary_investor]

much as i would like to refrain from posting anymore since i have promised my wife (yes, sirzap, i am already happily married and not in my wildest dream did i entertain the idea to court the person involved. and sir ric, natawa ako sa joke mo. pero di naman sa pagmamayabang, biniyayaan naman ako ng Maykapal ng kaguwapuhan kahit paano) that i shall let the people judge on the issue, i have to make this last post since the person involved has already said her piece. kaya niya raw ako tinanggal sa egroups dahil i warned her daw na sisiraan ko siya. yes i did warn her that is shall post sa pmt and bring the issue here. i did not tell her that i shall destroy her in the egroup. in the first place ang tagal ko na siyang nakakabanggaan bakit tinanggal niya lang ako sa egroup nung time na manghingi ako ng update sa kanya about her biz partner (na until now ay di ko pinapangalanan dahil i'm still trying to protect his biz, although ilang beses na ring nakiusap sa amin na wag nang mag-post dito sa pmt dahil makakasira nga raw sa biz niya at baka wala ng mag-invest sa kanila)? wag niyang sabihing nanggugulo ako dun sa egroup at OT yung pinost ko kasi related din naman talaga siya sa topic. yun ngang kay earlep na-discuss na rin dun sa egroup although hindi rin yun ang egroup for earlep. of course, she has all the right to remove the post or even the members na alam niyang makakasira talaga sa name or reputation niya.

granted na sinabi kong sisiraan ko talaga siya, does she think walang sariling pag-iisip ang mga tao dito o sa egroup at di nila madedecipher kung pure paninira lang ang motibo ko? in the first place, kung wala talaga siyang tinatago, kahit ano pang gawin kong post o kahit ilang threads pa ang gawin ko about her, lalabas at lalabas pa rin ang katotohanan. kung sa palagay ng mga tao eh purong paninira lang talaga ang intensyon ko, makikita rin naman 'yan sa mga posts. siya ngayon ang tatanungin ko, anong intensyon niya at siniraan niya sa grupo namin ang isang investee na plano sana naming pag-investan noon na hindi pa natutuloy hanggang ngayon dahil naipit din ang pera namin sa biz partner niya na dapat eh nov. 1 pa ang balik ng capital namin plus the last interest and bonus pero until now eh wala pa rin? siya, panay ang hingi ng proof sa mga problem investees kung saan siya may investments, pero nang kami na ang humihingi sa kanila ng mga proofs about the transaction ng biz partner niya dun sa forex na sinasabi nila na hinihintay nila for the longest time ay wala ring maipakita? paano ka ba namang hindi magagalit niyan? bago mo linisin ang bakod ng iba, linisin mo muna ang sarili mong bakod. kung hindi double standard o doble kara ang tawag doon, i don't know what is.

while everybody in our group has access to her biz partner lately (before kasi lahat ng communication namin is through her), i still stand as the group's spokesperson, unless pati iyon ay sinaklawan na rin niya. ako pa raw ang may unstable mind? siguro nga kasi wala akong binabanggit about wrath of nature, breath of God, positive thinking, and the secret. ang biz partner na nga niya nagsabi sa amin na wag siyang intindihin (in fairness to her, pag kausap mo siya in person, talagang di mo magagawang magalit kasi napakamahinahon at madadala ka talaga sa pananalita niya. pero, natauhan at nadala na ako sa tamis ng mga pangako nila kaya no more mr. nice guy anymore). buti naman at she didn't stoop down to my level. ako kasi hindi nakinig sa mga kagrupo ko, kaya nga naawa ako sa sarili ko kasi i stoop down to her level.

pero sige, dahil malapit na ang Christmas, ceasefire na rin muna ako. tutal, nasabi ko na rin ang gusto kong sabihin.

merry Christmas everyone!!!

[piameg]

@victor, youre an alternick as well as wary_investor of v..... i know who you are so you dont need to hide behind your alternicks. Baka gusto mo ipaste ko pa dito ang verbatim na threat mo sa akin, yun ang dahilan why I have to take you out of the group because of your threat. The proof you were asking from an investee is proof ng pagkabangga ng kotse nya. He told you already to ask another PMT member who saw the bangga pero its not enough for you, you even wanted to send you the pic which is entirely not related to the payments or obligations he owe you. He found it absurd and no, you never asked me for proofs about transactions, I already told you to speak to him directly kasi grabe ka nang garapalan makipag-usap with all caps. He told you not to talk to me anymore because he knows I dont tolerate disrespectul people. I know how to deal with unstable mind and that is to stay totally away from them and I dont want to have anything to do with you. Talk to the investee directly and I will never talk to you ever again nor want to have anything to do with you here or wherever. Im sorry too if kahit na sa pmt forum ay di na rin kita papatulan pa, this will be the last.I wont stoop down to your level making blind items pa na patama to me here and in the egroup, making a thread para lang ipahiya pa ako, making story telling a lie, etc.  Wala akong obligations sayo at wala akong contract with you so umayos ka at wala kang karapatan magdemand sa akin na kausapin kita kung ayaw ko, di mo ko utusan. Pati ang isang investee, drag mo pa ang issue para lang matawag akong talangka, ibang klase ka rin naman talaga, nangdamay ka pa ng iba.  Lastly, I wont give you the privilege of talking to me ever again. Umayos ka. Kaibigan ka dati, ngayon isang traydor. Humarap ka sa salamin at tanungin mo kung sino ang doble kara sa atin ngayon? Tinuturo mo ko pero you dont realize its you. Simple as that.  Lumalabas ang tunay na kulay ng tao under pressure so dont make it as an excuse na you can do anything you want or be rude just because mainit ulo mo. Sumosobra ka na, ginawa mong showbiz at tabloid ang pmt forum.

Now, on with our Merry Merry Christmas everyone!

[victor]

@victor, youre an alternick as well as wary_investor of v..... i know who you are so you dont need to hide behind your alternicks. Baka gusto mo ipaste ko pa dito ang verbatim na threat mo sa akin, yun ang dahilan why I have to take you out of the group because of your threat. The proof you were asking from an investee is proof ng pagkabangga ng kotse nya. He told you already to ask another PMT member who saw the bangga pero its not enough for you, you even wanted to send you the pic which is entirely not related to the payments or obligations he owe you. He found it absurd and no, you never asked me for proofs about transactions, I already told you to speak to him directly kasi grabe ka nang garapalan makipag-usap with all caps. He told you not to talk to me anymore because he knows I dont tolerate disrespectul people. I know how to deal with unstable mind and that is to stay totally away from them and I dont want to have anything to do with you. Talk to the investee directly and I will never talk to you ever again nor want to have anything to do with you here or wherever. Im sorry too if kahit na sa pmt forum ay di na rin kita papatulan pa, this will be the last.I wont stoop down to your level making blind items pa na patama to me here and in the egroup, making a thread para lang ipahiya pa ako, making story telling a lie, etc.  Wala akong obligations sayo at wala akong contract with you so umayos ka at wala kang karapatan magdemand sa akin na kausapin kita kung ayaw ko, di mo ko utusan. Pati ang isang investee, drag mo pa ang issue para lang matawag akong talangka, ibang klase ka rin naman talaga, nangdamay ka pa ng iba.  Lastly, I wont give you the privilege of talking to me ever again. Umayos ka. Kaibigan ka dati, ngayon isang traydor. Humarap ka sa salamin at tanungin mo kung sino ang doble kara sa atin ngayon? Tinuturo mo ko pero you dont realize its you. Simple as that.  Lumalabas ang tunay na kulay ng tao under pressure so dont make it as an excuse na you can do anything you want or be rude just because mainit ulo mo. Sumosobra ka na, ginawa mong showbiz at tabloid ang pmt forum.

Now, on with our Merry Merry Christmas everyone!

Sorry Ms Piameg, wala akong kinalaman sa mga nabanggit mo sa itaas.

 And about my commentary, no offense meant kung me nasagi ako sa kalooban mo it was meant for a joke pero mukhang sineryoso mo. Try to read between the lines.

If you are happy playing to be a heroine, go for it! I wish you all the best!

Have a Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year ! 

[mey28]

Based on my personal experience, kung tama ako, maganda ang relationship ko dun sa investee na tinutukoy dito.. I also personally know Piameg since 2008 na nagbuo ng group linked sa PMT. Up to now, we have a harmonious or lets say productive relationship as a group. I know na sabihin ng iba na biased ako, pero IMHO, piameg is trustworthy together w/ the investee involved. I have investments with that person pero naibisuhan agad ako ng nagsara ung isang account nya na naka issue sakin ng cheques then after 1 week meron agad ako issued na bagong cheques na up to now updated sa payments and cleared ang mga cheques. kung meron naman issues na hindi pa resolved, which is meron nga, siguro dun nalang un sa kabilang party involved, not Piameg and the investee. Based lang po ito sa personal experience ko.. Merry christmas sa lahat!

[dinaren]

pasko na po, magmahalan na lang tayo!!  merry xmas!!

[tops5450]

aba mainit parin pala ang chismisan dito

mga chismosa labas na dyan

[puberer]

the reason why i took out wary_investor to the googlegroup kasi he warned me na sisirain nya ako sa pmt forum pati sa googlegroups so I had to take him out sa googlegroup where im the mods.

i have the prerogative to accept or reject members na nanggugulo lang, distracting the purpose of the group which is to purse the investees at hand and then find a solution to our problem.

I have to take him out kasi namemersonal na sya. 

Its not healthy anymore for him to be there,

may unstable mind na na kung ano ano na sinasabi, fantasy world na like mga posts dito sa pmt na kesyo ako daw nagflood....etc which ive read to some of his posts. ako na pinagbibintangan nya sa lahat lahat ng bagay which is out of line na.

I wanted to make a thread naman sana na ISSUES with WARY_INVESTOR pero sabi ng isang pmt friend, dont go down to his level na lang daw so I didnt. I'll let him be. Then so be it.

You took wary_investor out of the googlegroup just because he warned you na sisiraan ka niya?  parang pre-mature ata yan mam.  Di pa man niya ata ginagawa eh you kicked him out na. 

yes you have the prerogative to reject or accept members... distracting the purpose?  parang di naman ata tama yan.  bakit ba binuo ang group? diba para sa mga " investors " at para magtulungan gumawa ng paraan mabawi ang pera nila.  kung ni kick mo ang isang investor, hindi ka maayos na leader.  dapat kung ni kick mo siya, ay umalis ka din.  bubuo ka ng group na hindi mo handa panindigan ang ginawa mo.  dapat handa ka sa ibat ibang reaction dahil una sa lahat, masakit para sa isang tao ang mawalan ng pera.  dapat alam mo yan.  banatan ka man ng personal o hindi, kung hindi naman totoo ay ano ang ikakabahala mo.  mismong ibang tao na ang maghuhusga kung ano ang tingin nila sa iyo. 

ano naman basehan mo na its not healthy for him to be there?  tinanong mo ba lahat ng myembro? o baka para sa iyo lang na opinyon yan?  kung desisyon ng buong group na i kick siya, pwede pa, pero kung decision mo lang, di naman ata fair yun. 

mam, kung meron man unstable mind ang isang tao, natural lang yun, ikaw ba naman mawalan ng pera na pinaghirapan mo?

mam, kahit hindi ka na gumawa ng thread ni wary, you already stoop to his level... yan ay kung mas mataas level mo sa kanya.  baka nga siya pa ang mataas ang level sa iyo.  tignan mo mga sagutan niyo before mag xmas... 

ang tanong ko lang sa huli...  totoo ba ang chismis na may investee ka na siniraan kila wary_investor?  kung meron man, care to share kung sino yun? 

good luck po    

[palailai]

ang bobongga talaga nyo!!!whew!!!!! puede sa paparazzi o sa the buzzzzzz.

[piameg]

@puberer, mas mataas ang level sa akin? sino ba gumawa ng thread na may personal na issues, ako ba? im just answering his issues with me at kung para sayo mas mataas ang level nya kasi i stooped down to his level well wala akong paki sa mga sinasabi mo na puro haka haka lang. at excuse me din kahit ako hirap din ako sa mga investees na pinaginvestan ko ng pera ko pero di ako nagkakaroon ng unstable mind. pera lang yan at di mo kailangan maloka para sa pera. understand now?
Post Merge: Jan 11, 2011, 01:23 PMngayon para sa mga tsismax mo eh dun ka sa the buzz magtanong at di ko na papatulan yang mga ganyang level. gawa ka na lang kaya ng sarili mong tv show at mahilig ka makitsismax sa mga di mo naman business. mind your own business, ang hilig mo pa makisawsaw sa di mo naman dapat pakialaman kaya gumawa ng googlegroups dahil sa mga taong tulad mo na nanggugulo lang pero wala namang magawang productive kungdi manuya at manuya at manuya, period.
Post Merge: Jan 11, 2011, 01:25 PMsyempre tao lang ako na minsan pag di ko na kaya pagpasensyahan panunuya mo eh sasagot na ako. pasensya na, tao lang pero i guess matagal ko na rin dapat di ka pinatulan kasi ayoko na maglagi sa level nyo at nakakasira lang ng araw.
Post Merge: Jan 11, 2011, 01:40 PMano bang level ang sinasabi ko? pagiging childish/imature OR garapalan/palengkero nyo, yun lang naman yun. if i stoop to that level, mas grabe ako pumantay kaya mas magiging immature or garapalan ako so naturally mas mababa pa sa level nyo pag tinatapatan ko kayo. di maganda so i better stop it.
Post Merge: Jan 11, 2011, 01:40 PMi dont want to be like you guys. yun lang yun.
Post Merge: Jan 11, 2011, 01:42 PMuneducated/unprofessional assh*les to put it more bluntly.