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Offline Mycapital

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Re: building a house
« Reply #15 on: Jan 03, 2011, 03:33 PM »
freefront. I'm sorry but your asking too much. No offense to anyone, but they wont even put the rubbish in the bin even though the bin is right beside them. I notice that they tend to promote tourism but some places are full of dog feaces and children (SOMETIMES ADULTS) that POOS IN the beach. YUK! People always complain of how they are going to bring their children up with good education, while all we see are snotted children and matted full of grangrene dogs that litters everyhere. I would suggest first a mandatory birth control, and dog control. It really upsets me that we are so want to be green where we dont even know whats green, black, white, cleanliness, or hyprocysy means.  Maybe we should provide more education if needed for even the basic, common sense stuff. PEACE.

Post Merge: Jan 03, 2011, 03:51 PM
Ok.
1. First you need to determine what kind of house that you want to build.(eg...4 bed...4 toilets...etc.)
2. Where is your land located, beach front, therefore your building on sand, you need proper foundation. solid foundation.
3. Rocks area where you have to blast or consider floating foundation.
4. Permits to build.
5. I'm sorry, but arkitek _ FRiday is correct. if you want a proper diagnosis, go to the Doctor. but if your happy with albularyo. Nothing wrong with it, your choice. yon, nga lang baka ang diagnosis is just nakulam ka for your sore tummy, yon pala onset for an early cancer.

Or kuha ka ng backyard mangagawa, then it fall down in the first bagyo. (remember the 3 little pigs and the wolves that huff and puff)

 Do it properly. Its an investment that you want to last for a very very long time. But shop around.
« Last Edit: Jan 03, 2011, 03:53 PM by Mycapital »

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Re: building a house
« Reply #16 on: Jan 03, 2011, 04:16 PM »
building green is OK, in your very small way nakakatulong ka for being environment friendly. but it may cost you more (i think) than constructing it the normal way...but in the long run it could give you also savings like electricity (if you have efficient natural light and ventillation), cooking fuel, even in small amount...

sanitation is another problem that needs different solution...

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« Reply #17 on: Jan 03, 2011, 04:26 PM »
of course. it should be encourage. But whoever i speak in the Phil does not even entertain being green. I've been talking about it constantly since I started my piggery. but no one is listening. even DENR. I wanted to have a huge tank so all the affluent goes there and in time it will turn into a fertile soil. I have the money to buy the tank. But sabi nila "ate okey lang. itapon na lang sa ilog, tipid tayo sa tangke". Me, the owner of the business is being ignored. Hindi ko nga alam andf process, but all i know is poos in the river are toxic. "Common sense"

Education is what some need. And the blase" attitude of retched people from DENR needs to improve.

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« Reply #18 on: Jan 03, 2011, 04:54 PM »
^DENR suggesting these things? you sould have reported them to the authority. and how can you claim that you, as the owner, is being ignored. they cannot obliged you NOT TO construct a tank, instead it's the other way around - they have the authority to obliged you to construct that tank. Poos in the river are indeed toxic...

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Re: building a house
« Reply #19 on: Jan 03, 2011, 04:58 PM »
A good design plan is always a prerequisite to a successful construction project. So when the time comes to build your home, it is best that you design it properly to ensure that there is a fit between your needs and your home. It is important that your real needs are properly interpreted in the design plans and are within your budget.


Avoiding Expensive Changes

Changes in the design layout and specifications during the construction stage or after the materials are purchased and used can be a waste of money, time and energy. Many construction projects have gone over the budget because of excessive changes that were done during the construction phase. These changes would have been avoided if the design were reviewed many times prior to implementation.

In the design process, it may be a good idea to involve a construction professional because their experience can dictate whether a design is feasible or not. The construction professional can also give you a preliminary indication of costs and buildability. Not all design professionals have experience in construction so a design can look very good on paper but may be very difficult and expensive to construct.

Some design firms nowadays bring in construction professionals way before the construction commences so that they can get advice on the safe, cost effective and efficient way of constructing your home or building. The construction professional being involved in the design phase serves as an adviser to the schedule and cost issues. Any design can be built but may require a considerable cost. The design process usually takes a few phases and your architect or designer will guide you on this. The various steps include:


Assessment of Your Needs

As the owner, you assess the needs of your family. This involves decisions on the number of rooms, number of car garages, location of the living spaces, etc. This involves consultation with your family members. You relay all of the information to your home designer or architect who will in turn make the conceptual schemes for you. If it is a commercial building, you assess the needs of your office or the future tenants of the building and make sure that the end users will have a space that will suit their requirements.

You would need a lot of information and advice from professionals, friends and design literature in order for you to fully assess your needs. You look at model homes or commercial spaces, read a lot of design magazines, ask friends, etc. Your design professional will guide you in this process because if you do not know what your needs are, you will never know what to build.


Conceptual Design

Your designer, after listening to your specific needs and requirements, would then give you a conceptual design that is basically an interpretation of what you want in your home or building. The concept is then discussed with you in detail. The draft scheme is revised as many times as necessary until your requirements are met. As long as the concept does not satisfy you, keep on revising since the corrections at this stage are the cheapest - no materials and labor are being used yet.

This process depends on how fast you approve the design of your home or how quick your designer can interpret your dream on paper. Preliminary costs are assessed at this stage and the budget is tested against your pocket.


Final Design

After the client or owner approves the conceptual design, the final design plan is done. The other designers (structural engineer, geotechnical engineer, and the other professionals) are brought in during this phase to complete the other details of the plans. The various ways on how to improve the design are discussed among the various designers in the project.

Considerations are done to accommodate the other facilities. For example, a wall is moved by the architect in order to provide a passageway for the air conditioning system. The final design drawings are done at this stage.


Construction Plans and Documents

The construction documents are then produced which are now ready for the builder to construct. Construction documents include specifications, estimates and the other materials that may be necessary to obtain the permits for construction. The design plans contain all the details of the structure that is to be built. Plans should be simple enough to be fully understood by the builder. These are either bid out to contractors or are negotiated with the contractor of your choice.

Reduce Costs During the Design Phase

The ability to influence the cost of the project is greatest during the design phase and design changes only involve lots of paper and the designer's time. Design changes may not be free but these are still cheaper than tearing down a wall and constructing a new one. The degree of influence on the cost is highest during the design phase of a project and decreases as the various stages of construction progresses.

Changes during construction will cost you money and you may overshoot your budget. Remember though that you may still change specifications during construction.

Final Advice

Spend a lot of time understanding and reviewing the plans - Telling yourself that you should just get over the design and make changes during construction will surely cost you additional money. It may be difficult for the non-engineer to understand design plans but do your best so that you can at least imagine how your house or building will look like after it is built.


for more detailed insight in building your house, you can visit this site: www.buildingdreams.com.ph (note: i'm not promoting this company or site as i am not connected with this entity or anyone of its staffs.)

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Re: building a house
« Reply #20 on: Jan 04, 2011, 07:11 AM »
@mycapital- it's a matter of personal accountability. You won't stop going to church just because you are more likely to be seated beside an adulterer. You go to church because you want to, you need to, you think it is a rational thing to do.

The above post is very comprehensive. Throw in all your requirements and ideas as per your needs and wants, see if your professional team think it's plausible, consider the time, effort and budget, and pare down/sacrifice what you can. You are more likely to be happy  with the result because you were involved in everyway. You won't even b*tch about the architect because you were there during the planning stage and execution.

Back to the green ideas, I threw that in because you are about to build. Remodelling requires so much effort, sometimes it is not worth the other. Think about tearing out a part of your roof to put in a double-glazed skylight. That would have been easier from the beginning, innit?

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« Reply #21 on: Jan 04, 2011, 07:41 AM »
^I definitely agree with Freefront. Since you are starting from scratch, make your house as environment friendly as possible.

Try to look for a design which will allow you to reduce cost of lighting and can keep the house cool. I could still remember when I was young, most of the houses i visit, ceiling fan lang ang naka install, at cool ang bahay. Now you have to shell out a few thousand pesos just to keep yourself cool in the house.
Never argue with an Idiot, They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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Re: building a house
« Reply #22 on: Jan 06, 2011, 02:59 PM »
of course. it should be encourage. But whoever i speak in the Phil does not even entertain being green. I've been talking about it constantly since I started my piggery. but no one is listening. even DENR. I wanted to have a huge tank so all the affluent goes there and in time it will turn into a fertile soil. I have the money to buy the tank. But sabi nila "ate okey lang. itapon na lang sa ilog, tipid tayo sa tangke". Me, the owner of the business is being ignored. Hindi ko nga alam andf process, but all i know is poos in the river are toxic. "Common sense"

Education is what some need. And the blase" attitude of retched people from DENR needs to improve.

Our government has an existing law against water pollution that includes jail time and closure of your business. if you are caught throwing untreated wastewater in our river, DENR can impose a DAILY penalty fee until you implement a treatment plant that complies with the government's effluent standard.

i do not believe that DENR employees will be careless to advise you just to throw it out without proper treatment.

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« Reply #23 on: Jan 06, 2011, 06:38 PM »
@mycapital, if you apply natural farming for your piggery, you wont need that tank for the poos  and wastes :) pm me your email and i'll tell you the soil composition you need for the piggery and para di na gamit ang sementado...wala pang ligo ang mga baboy pero walang amoy bantot :)
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2011, 07:54 PM »
san po kaya ko makakakuha ng libreng panambak? ang mahal ng singil ng developerb sa kin p179k nakalubog ng half meter yung lote ko, masyadong mahal yung amount :(

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« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2011, 08:33 PM »
sorry to say that prodlinetrading as i know in this new phase of LIFE there is no FREE that the world can offer.


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« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2011, 09:49 PM »
SPECTRUM OF ARCHITECT' SERIVES..mababasa mo un sa UAP DOCUMENT. You can get a copy sa scout rallos, sa headquarters ng mga architect, mura lang namn ung libro if you really want to know the basic fee pag magpapatayo k ng bahay.




meron po ako pm sa inyo re pagawa po ng bhay.. thanks

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« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2011, 09:59 PM »
ahahhaha ok lang naman pay pero marami ako nakikita free malayo nga lang sa min, sa dasma ako eh yung mga nagpapa ads ng free sa qc pa basta hakutin lng :)
sorry to say that prodlinetrading as i know in this new phase of LIFE there is no FREE that the world can offer.



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« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2011, 10:12 PM »
gagastos ka pa rin sa labor at equipment mo sa paghakut.

baka kasi malapad ang area ng lote nyo.

kung half meter ang lubog, try nyo konting mathematics.

say 1 meter high na panambak x area ng lote nyo x cost per cubic meter ng buhangin.

check nyo baka hindi naman aabut ng 179K. mas maganda kasi pag alam mo may basis ka ng estimates, pwede kang tumawad sa contractor. sabihin nyo ganito lang naman volume ng tambak ang kailangan x price...then try negotiate with other contractor. at meron talaga nagdedeliver lang ng buhangin ang business, makakamura ka dun.


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« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2011, 11:57 PM »
sir buhangin po ba o soil ang tinatambak? 218sqm yung lote pero hindi naman entire lot ay lubog ng half meter. mahal yung quote na p179k ano? pag ako daw nag
Quote from: rds link=topic=31pahakot ang charge na lang sa min yung labor 659.msg360468#msg360468 date=1306246363
gagastos ka pa rin sa labor at equipment mo sa paghakut.

baka kasi malapad ang area ng lote nyo.

kung half meter ang lubog, try nyo konting mathematics.

say 1 meter high na panambak x area ng lote nyo x cost per cubic meter ng buhangin.

check nyo baka hindi naman aabut ng 179K. mas maganda kasi pag alam mo may basis ka ng estimates, pwede kang tumawad sa contractor. sabihin nyo ganito lang naman volume ng tambak ang kailangan x price...then try negotiate with other contractor. at meron talaga nagdedeliver lang ng buhangin ang business, makakamura ka dun.



 

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