[Snipertech]

ganun din banat sa akin. naghahanap daw ng partner or investor ung company nila.

for you to make substantial amount in income you have to do networking also. kung sa products lang di ganun kabilis.
Post Merge: Jul 03, 2012, 12:20 PMpulot sa kabilang thread. hindi lahat ng iniinvite mo gusto mong payamanin. kundi karamihan dahil sa kailangan mong kumita. taking away other people's money.

Agree to some extent.  Not sure of ratio but yes, in a company, all workers EARN!  In MLM, only a few earn (with respect to those who lost money).  Kung gagawin natin parang MLM ang traditional business, example mga companies na me 1000+ na employees, wag natin paswelduhin ang 900 at ibigay ang sahod ng 900 sa remaining 100.  BOOM!  dba in a few months makakagawa sila ng 100 na millionaires!   I think mahirap i-compare ang MLM sa traditional business since iba ang mode of payment.  That's 100% earning V.S. 1%-10% earning.  Natural lang na mas madami magagawang millionaire ang MLM kasi yung pera nung iba mapupunta sa 1%-10%.
Post Merge: Jul 03, 2012, 01:59 AMSir/Ma'am, I think hinde mo po na getz sinabi ni happzz.
Ulitin ko po: "May narinig ka ba kay Henry Sy na nagsasabing bilyonaryo siya???"

Dun sa post mo po (http://business.inquirer.net/66563/henry-sy-still-tops-forbes-2012-list-of-ph%E2%80%99s-40-richest), wala po ako nabasa dyan na sinabi ni Henry Sy na bilyonaryo siya.  Paki point out po kung mali ako.


"Henry Sy, 87, remains the richest person in the Philippines with a net worth of $9.1 billion, up $1.9 billion from a year ago, according to Forbes."
Post Merge: Jul 03, 2012, 02:03 AMYes, and I believe the reason why he doesn't need to say that is because most people knew that already.   
Post Merge: Jul 03, 2012, 02:10 AMI disagree!  Hahaha.  Nasa tao po yan. 
"I AM A MILLIONAIRE!!!"  <----   see?  nag flaunt ako and yes, I am a millionaire! 
I guess I'm not part of "real millionaires", maybe you are talking about the old rich families.  They don't flaunt because their friends also belong to the same category.

Ikaw ba ipagmamalaki mo na meron kang cellphone kung ang kaharap mo ay me cellphone din?  Normal na sa iyo yan, just like old rich families, no need to brag since it is normal for them.

[robrstars]

ive see your presentation. kumikita pa din kayo sa recruiting.

ung mga products nyo over priced. there are a lot of food supplements out there with cheaper price nad way effective based on unbiased testimonies.

 kanino ko ibebenta yan sa mga kamag anak ko? katulad ng ginagawa ng iba?

kung di ko  mabenta with in a year, kasalanan ko pa? ano yun? kung talagang saleable mga products nyo. you can guarantee your clients na mdaling ibenta yan. at di lang break even or 2000 lang kikitain for  a year.

that's why you have the option na mag join or hindi. Hindi ka naman sir pinipilit. sige pag inom mo ng food supplement na nabibili lang sa drugstore may points ka ba dun. pag naligo ka then nagsabon ka, may points ka ba dun? pag nagkape ka, may points ka ba dun?
Glutathione is anti cancer, anti-oxidant, immune system builder, and detoxify your liver. Ayaw mo ba maging healthy? Then habang nagiging healthy ka pwede kang yumaman at makatulong sa ibang tao.

[Snipertech]

^then why did you say in your recent post na di kayo kumikita ng commish thru recruiting.

ung points na sinasabi mo. gaano ba kalaki yun? ung naisave ko dun sa pagbili ng mas competitive product daig ko pa ung nag earn ng points dun.
Post Merge: Jul 03, 2012, 12:30 PMsige nga, stop recruiting and just try to sell your products even for just 6mos. lets see how will you fare.
Post Merge: Jul 03, 2012, 12:33 PM

There is no problem if you still want to go with your traditional business.
You will be rich someday. No problem. The question is, sino yumaman? ikaw lang. how about your employees? binigyan mo lang sila ng barya compare sa milyong kikitain mo. Sa network marketing, we help people achieve their dream, oo sa ngayon networking kami, pero as we go rich nagtatayo din kami ng traditional business, then tuloy tuloy lang sa Royale. Para makatulong sa ibang tao. I join Royale kasi gusto ko makatulong, may gusto akong payamanin. I prayed to God na sana gawin akong instrument para makatulong sa ibang tao sa madaming tao. Yung willing magpatulong.

kung ganun kaganda yang MLM, why do you still the need to put up a traditional business? ANswer: because MLM doesnt offer SUSTAINABLE GROWTH.

Mind you, iba ang traditional business sa MLM ha. baka magulat ka kasi nasanay ka na sa MLM.

[Incredible]

Ilan na po ang Millionaires ng Royale?

[robrstars]

^^^ ok sir you WIN. No problem.
I am not forcing you to believe in me.
I am not convincing you.
We have different beliefs.
I respect you.

Post Merge: Jul 04, 2012, 07:11 AM"sige nga, stop recruiting and just try to sell your products even for just 6mos. lets see how will you fare."

kumikita ako kahit di nag rerequit, oo kahit isang taon pa. kikita pa din ako. Example: nagbenta ako ng Sabon, 180, kumita ako ng 63 pesos.
nagbenta ako lotion, 420 kita ako ng 84pesos, nagdeliver ako ng gluta, 4 bottles, 1680 each, kumita ako ng 3,360.

pagnakabenta ako ng 10 Soap for 1 week meron ako 630
pagnakabenta ako ng 10 Glutacaps meron ako 8,400
and we're doing this ni misis for 10 months na.
Yung mga nabentahan namin gusto na magpamember para avail na nila yung full discount.
Imagine, naglabas ka ng 12,888 binigay sa'yo 15,000 worth of products. panalo diba? benta mo yung iba, gamitin mo yung iba.
May products ka naman e. Wag ka magrecruit, wala naman problema e, mag consume ka lang. Pag napansin ng friend mo na gumaganda ka kumikinis ka isesekreto mo ba sa kanya? Sa Royale, panalo ka.
Superbrands po lahat ng products namin.
All FDA approved. Halal certified
Nakapasa lahat ng products namin sa U.A.E and taiwan.
soon mag-oopen ng yun Singapore and Qatar.
All of that international branches are company owned.
Post Merge: Jul 04, 2012, 07:13 AMToo much analysis will lead to paralysis.

[robrstars]

[Snipertech]

^^^ ok sir you WIN. No problem.
I am not forcing you to believe in me.
I am not convincing you.
We have different beliefs.
I respect you.

Post Merge: Jul 04, 2012, 07:11 AM"sige nga, stop recruiting and just try to sell your products even for just 6mos. lets see how will you fare."

kumikita ako kahit di nag rerequit, oo kahit isang taon pa. kikita pa din ako. Example: nagbenta ako ng Sabon, 180, kumita ako ng 63 pesos.
nagbenta ako lotion, 420 kita ako ng 84pesos, nagdeliver ako ng gluta, 4 bottles, 1680 each, kumita ako ng 3,360.

pagnakabenta ako ng 10 Soap for 1 week meron ako 630
pagnakabenta ako ng 10 Glutacaps meron ako 8,400
and we're doing this ni misis for 10 months na.
Yung mga nabentahan namin gusto na magpamember para avail na nila yung full discount.
Imagine, naglabas ka ng 12,888 binigay sa'yo 15,000 worth of products. panalo diba? benta mo yung iba, gamitin mo yung iba.
May products ka naman e. Wag ka magrecruit, wala naman problema e, mag consume ka lang. Pag napansin ng friend mo na gumaganda ka kumikinis ka isesekreto mo ba sa kanya? Sa Royale, panalo ka.
Superbrands po lahat ng products namin.
All FDA approved. Halal certified
Nakapasa lahat ng products namin sa U.A.E and taiwan.
soon mag-oopen ng yun Singapore and Qatar.
All of that international branches are company owned.
Post Merge: Jul 04, 2012, 07:13 AMToo much analysis will lead to paralysis.

oo kikita ka nga. pero the question is yayaman ka ba kakabenta lang ng products tulad ng claim mo?
sigurado ka bang lahat ng nabebentahan mo e willing talaga bumili sa yo o napipilitan lang? 180 for the soap? geesheesh.

madaling sabihin na nakapasa mga products nyo sa UAE taiwan etc. madaling sabihin na mag-oopen ng branches sa kung saan saan (which is narinig ko na sa ibat ibang MLM). but how to prove that?

Not because FDA approve it means na effective ung product, all it can assure the public is that it is safe, as of the moment.

facebook is a social networking site. Tulad ng sabi mo di parepareho ang networking, but comparing facebook to MLM?
Are you serious at this example?

Kung nasa call center man ang isang tao, he will get paid regardless if he sells or not. saka di lahat ng tao nasa call center.

iba ang risk ng pag aabroad rather than joining an MLM. E ung pag aabroad di mo naman igagrab yun not unless sure money un and  it will have a big impact in your life. Sa MLM, oo sure money yun, sure money para sa owner and sa nagrecruit sa yo.

And dont suggest na ayaw umasenso ng isang tao just because ayaw nya sumali sa MLM. There are a lot of ways para umasenso, that i assure you.

so you think that one is doing too much analysis when he/she is trying to  point out the cons a system? nice argument.

Isnt it only right for one to analyze first before handing over his/her hardearned money. kahit sabihin mo pang 12k++ lang yan.

and how much will you get for the commish if i may ask?
Post Merge: Jul 07, 2012, 01:45 AM

Ilan na po ang Millionaires ng Royale?

Why are you putting too much emphasis on  how many millionaires are there in an MLM comp? Is that really how you sell youre MLM? by saying na dito 600++ n amillionaires.

Sige nga po, what percentage of your total members is that 600++ comprise of?

10%? paano naman po ung 90%?
Post Merge: Jul 07, 2012, 01:51 AMThe United States Federal Trade Commission states "Steer clear of multilevel marketing plans that pay commissions for recruiting new distributors. They're actually illegal pyramid schemes. Why is pyramiding dangerous? Because plans that pay commissions for recruiting new distributors inevitably collapse when no new distributors can be recruited. And when a plan collapses, most people - except perhaps those at the very top of the pyramid - end up empty-handed."[34]

[robrstars]

oo kikita ka nga. pero the question is yayaman ka ba kakabenta lang ng products tulad ng claim mo?
sigurado ka bang lahat ng nabebentahan mo e willing talaga bumili sa yo o napipilitan lang? 180 for the soap? geesheesh.

Oo naman po, pwede ka yumaman sa pagbebenta ng soap, 63 pesos ang kita sa isang soap 180-117=63. And we have money back guarantee for this soap.
At di lang naman soap ang tinda ko.
I look for people problems, and find ways to solve it. Kung pimples problem niya i sell kojic papaya soap, if gusto niya mag lighten skin niya i sell Gluta Soap and Gluta capsule. If my hypertension siya ay recommend Grapeseed, and madami pa kaming products na pwede na alam ko pwede din sa'yo. Sir ikaw ano ba problem mo sa health? And we/I are not forcing people to buy from us. We follow, the principle of marketing that some people will buy, some people will not, then next.
And by the way, All our products are superbrand status. Are you familiar with superbrand status?

madaling sabihin na nakapasa mga products nyo sa UAE taiwan etc. madaling sabihin na mag-oopen ng branches sa kung saan saan (which is narinig ko na sa ibat ibang MLM). but how to prove that?

Not because FDA approve it means na effective ung product, all it can assure the public is that it is safe, as of the moment.

Do you know na bago natayo and branch sa Dubai,U.A.E. pina test nila lahat ng products namin sa Ministry of Food and Drugs ng U.A.E.   and sa Taiwan yun food and drugs agency nila. Sir, company owned branch yung sa UAE and Taiwan. Hindi biro magtayo ng branch ng ganun ganun lang. Lahat ng legalities bago natayo yung branch pinagdaanan ng company. Hindi distributor yun may ari ng branch sa ibang country, company po. Sa ibang country nga pumasa, dito pa sa Pilipinas.
Our products are Filipino made, support Filipino products.

facebook is a social networking site. Tulad ng sabi mo di parepareho ang networking, but comparing facebook to MLM?
Are you serious at this example?

You didn't get the point. You have network of friends, officemates, playmates, etc. etc. that is also networking. di mo lang napapansin pero yun yun.
all of us in this world are inter related to each other.

Kung nasa call center man ang isang tao, he will get paid regardless if he sells or not. saka di lahat ng tao nasa call center.

Kaya nga, "KUNG" nasa call center. Nasaan ka ba? kung wala ka dun e di nasa iba ka. I know they will get paid, what i am telling is pede idagdag sa pwede nilang pagkakitaan.

iba ang risk ng pag aabroad rather than joining an MLM. E ung pag aabroad di mo naman igagrab yun not unless sure money un and  it will have a big impact in your life. Sa MLM, oo sure money yun, sure money para sa owner and sa nagrecruit sa yo.

Diba gagastos ka ng malaki para sa placement para mag-abroad, gagawa ka ng paraan, doon malayo ka sa pamilya mo, e pwede naman dito kung may work ka then may sideline ka na Direct Selling or Royale.

And dont suggest na ayaw umasenso ng isang tao just because ayaw nya sumali sa MLM. There are a lot of ways para umasenso, that i assure you.

Hindi naman po kami namimilit kung ayaw. Yun willing lang umasenso.

so you think that one is doing too much analysis when he/she is trying to  point out the cons a system? nice argument.
Isnt it only right for one to analyze first before handing over his/her hardearned money. kahit sabihin mo pang 12k++ lang yan.

Good thing sir, you are making due diligence in our company.
Tama sir, tignan at pag-aralan niyo muna yun company bago niyo pasukin or salihan.

and how much will you get for the commish if i may ask?

You get 500php for every direct referral and 2400ph for every pair.
Di ba sir naka attend na kayo ng presentation namin? kelan ba yun sir?
baka matagal na, try niyo ulet. :-)

Post Merge: Today at 01:45 AM
Quote from: Incredible on Jul 03, 2012, 12:41 PM
Ilan na po ang Millionaires ng Royale?

Why are you putting too much emphasis on  how many millionaires are there in an MLM comp? Is that really how you sell youre MLM? by saying na dito 600++ n amillionaires.

Sige nga po, what percentage of your total members is that 600++ comprise of?

10%? paano naman po ung 90%?
Post Merge: Today at 01:51 AM
The United States Federal Trade Commission states "Steer clear of multilevel marketing plans that pay commissions for recruiting new distributors. They're actually illegal pyramid schemes. Why is pyramiding dangerous? Because plans that pay commissions for recruiting new distributors inevitably collapse when no new distributors can be recruited. And when a plan collapses, most people - except perhaps those at the very top of the pyramid - end up empty-handed."[34]

I didn't tell kung how many na ang millionaires ng Royale.
More than 500 na, and every month nagkakaroon ng Millionaire.
Yung ratio mo na 10% - 90%
10% Millionaire, 90 percent hindi.
ok 10% Millionaire
let's cut the 90%
50% earning na
20% bawi na
20% Newbie.


Sir snipertech, I can sense na negative/allergic ka talaga sa MLM.
May nasalihan na ba kayo before? or yung kakilala niyo?
Dito naman kasi sa 'min sa Royale, kahit di ka na nga magnetworking ok lang.
Pagkabili mo ng products, gamitin mo yung iba, yung iba ibenta mo.
Then pag may orders na sa'yo, bili ka sa members price then benta mo ng Suggested Retail Price (SRP).
Siyempre kelangan mo talaga gamitin yun products para ikaw ang magpapatunay na effective yung products. Ganon kasi ginagawa ko at yun ibang member.
Kung hindi ka pa familiar sa products, meron kaming product orientation and meron din kaming Wellness Health Opportunity Orientation training na doctors ang speaker. Saka kung mag jo join ka samin, kung sakali man, hinding hindi ako papayag na hindi ka masusuportahan. I will make sure you are satisfied. Kahit maging buddy pa ta'yo. Mga humble ang tao sa Royale, we don't brag our cars. Saka we don't show what we don't have. Sinasabi din sa'min sa training na maging honest, magkaroon ng credibility, integrity, values and character. Pag nakita mo president and Chairman namin, pde mo sila kamayan ganun sila kababa/humble.
Kahit yun mga top earners namin, down to earth sila. Think positive lang sir, i know naghahanap ka ng butas sa system e. Lahat ng pwede mo makita di mo palalagpasin e, i like that.  Pwede tayo mag meet then lahat ng tanong mo, sagutin ko.

[nanashi]

It really boils down on the product itself. If the product is good and sellable to the open market - it's a good business.

But if I sense and highlighting the recruitment part and make it a sphere of monopolistic access to the product. Sorry not gonna work for me.

[Market_Market]

^

Absolutely agree! 
So long as the product is good and sell-able, company will survive/grow!

Focus on selling the product - Good business
Focus on recruitment - Good scheme (pyramiding)
Focus on both - Good networking!

[royalista.ako]

hi! 3months na po akong nag join sa royale and sa nakikita ko, nagpapasalamat po ako kasi napunta ako sa tamang kumpanya .. ang sakin lang po, hindi naman po kase totoo yung "ALAM KO NA YAN". sumali nadin po ako sa ibang networking kaya akala ko parepareho lahat sila .. ang masasabi ko lang po, napaka ganda po dito sa royale .. hindi kami number ONE, kase WE ARE ONLY ONE!

[pulubing_palaboy]

hi!  .. hindi kami number ONE, kase WE ARE ONLY ONE!

tignan mo naman ito, bilib kaagad sa slogan ng kumpanya
i suppose you never even stopped to think what it means, did you?
because if you did, you would have seen that it's pure nonsense.
if your company is the only one, then your company is number one
if your company is not number one
then there's at least one company who beat you out of being number one
sows!

[mayaman]

I work in a publishing company and I just recently joined the RBC family...sort of a side line lang. Most of my friends and acquaintances belong in the team I joined in...so yeah, good vibes! ^^

...oh, if anyone want to join in just pm me, thanks!

[sharlene]

ako din!kasasali ko lang sa royale...still on the process of learning pero plan ko is more on products selling than the recruiting side pero pag nakita ng consumers ko na okay ang product and they want to be a part of this business, tatanggihan ko ba sila?hehehe...

[HonestWork]

Sniper has a lot of wisdom.  He has gone to the Federal Trade commission website to get some facts. The FTC does warn people to stay away from MLMs.  Sniper's comments are  based on facts, and not on dreams.  Royale Buisness Club is legal, but it is NOT apart of DSAP or direct association of the PHilippines. Why is this true? Check it out for your self. 

http://www.dsap.ph/directory.html 

 Some MLMs are Pyramid schemes, but only make them legal because there is a product. It is still a pyramid scheme that puts the emphasis on recruitment.   I would be close minded if I only got my information about Royale through their website and what they told me at seminars. We need to be smart and learn the facts and the WHOLE truth about what is going on from other government credited sites. 
Look for yourself at how the Philippine Government defines illegal pyramid schemes:
 
http://www.senate.gov.ph/lisdata/19901439!.pdf

Their definition of an illegal pyramid scheme sounds a lot like Royalebuisness club.  Make sure you are not just following blindly what you hear at seminars.  Do your research, do your homework, and make an educated decision.  Sell your product, that is the only legal and honest way.   I think Royale has decent products.  Why is the emphasis of so many people in their company seeing everyone as a prospect and trying so hard to recruit?  Because that is where the real money is made.