Comments on: More Pinoy sites lose PageRank as Google updates… again http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/ Make Money Online, Google Adsense, SEO, Stocks, Forex, Mutual Funds Philippines Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:13:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Faust http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-31670 Faust Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:52:21 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-31670 how can we get back lost PR? help how can we get back lost PR? help

]]> By: James | PinoyMoneyTalk.com http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-10019 James | PinoyMoneyTalk.com Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:39:53 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-10019 <b>Grace</b>, a site's Google PR fluctuates especially during PR update time. In any case, don't focus too much on the PR. Just continue building traffic to your site and continue to generate income from it. Higher site earnings is definitely better than higher PR, right? Grace, a site’s Google PR fluctuates especially during PR update time. In any case, don’t focus too much on the PR. Just continue building traffic to your site and continue to generate income from it. Higher site earnings is definitely better than higher PR, right?

]]> By: Grace http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9764 Grace Thu, 15 Nov 2007 04:08:41 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9764 Hello. My page rank in http://trialsofmylife.bravejournal.com degraded to PR0 before it was 3 then degraded to 2 and then it become PR0 :( Hello. My page rank in http://trialsofmylife.bravejournal.com degraded to PR0 before it was 3 then degraded to 2 and then it become PR0 :(

]]> By: James | PinoyMoneyTalk.com http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9686 James | PinoyMoneyTalk.com Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:06:20 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9686 <b>Biske</b>, yan exactly yung pinagtatalunan namin sa forum since 2006 pa. Look at the discussion on the issue: <a href="http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=3390.msg41513#msg41513" rel="nofollow">Content issues for site publishers</a>. The supposed solution is for Google to migrate from using PageRank to TrustRank in ranking websites. But how that will work, I don't know. <b>geri</b>, I think Google is selectively penalizing some sites, that's why there are those who still has TLA and has paid links but the PR did not drop. Or the reason can also be most of the sites that link to you lost PR which eventually pulled down your site's PR. Since Google has no official statement regarding this, we can only make a guess. <b>jhay</b>, seriously? That's the first time I heard of a direct relation between a drop in PR and a drop in traffic. Did your ad earnings decrease as well alongside the drop in traffic? True, Google does play God at times. Unfortunately, as long as our sites rely mostly on Google search results for traffic, we cannot but succumb to Google's whims. Biske, yan exactly yung pinagtatalunan namin sa forum since 2006 pa. Look at the discussion on the issue: Content issues for site publishers. The supposed solution is for Google to migrate from using PageRank to TrustRank in ranking websites. But how that will work, I don’t know.

geri, I think Google is selectively penalizing some sites, that’s why there are those who still has TLA and has paid links but the PR did not drop. Or the reason can also be most of the sites that link to you lost PR which eventually pulled down your site’s PR. Since Google has no official statement regarding this, we can only make a guess.

jhay, seriously? That’s the first time I heard of a direct relation between a drop in PR and a drop in traffic. Did your ad earnings decrease as well alongside the drop in traffic?

True, Google does play God at times. Unfortunately, as long as our sites rely mostly on Google search results for traffic, we cannot but succumb to Google’s whims.

]]> By: jhay http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9674 jhay Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:52:19 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9674 Nice that you mentioned my blog. :) The PR drop has been quite tragic. My traffic has dropped by 20% since then, talk about tough luck or Google playing God once more. Nice that you mentioned my blog. :)

The PR drop has been quite tragic. My traffic has dropped by 20% since then, talk about tough luck or Google playing God once more.

]]> By: geri a.k.a. raredog http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9662 geri a.k.a. raredog Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:44:40 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9662 Whew! Buti na lang I'm still hanging with my PR4 kahit na me TLA ako sa page ko. Any explanations po??? Whew! Buti na lang I’m still hanging with my PR4 kahit na me TLA ako sa page ko. Any explanations po???

]]> By: Biske http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9588 Biske Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:46:40 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9588 I hope we can do an experiment. Halimbawa, we place identical articles in two web sites at the same time, yung isa mataas ang PR, yung isa wala. Gusto ko lang makita kaninong web site yung mapupunta sa supplementals. Nangyari na kasing ganun sa kakilala ko. May nagnakaw ng articles nya, eh yung nagnakaw, may PR, sya wala. Aba, sya ang napunta sa supplemental index kahit na mas nauna nyang ipinost yung content sa web site nya. Ano kaya yun~ I hope we can do an experiment. Halimbawa, we place identical articles in two web sites at the same time, yung isa mataas ang PR, yung isa wala. Gusto ko lang makita kaninong web site yung mapupunta sa supplementals. Nangyari na kasing ganun sa kakilala ko. May nagnakaw ng articles nya, eh yung nagnakaw, may PR, sya wala. Aba, sya ang napunta sa supplemental index kahit na mas nauna nyang ipinost yung content sa web site nya. Ano kaya yun~

]]> By: James | PinoyMoneyTalk.com http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9561 James | PinoyMoneyTalk.com Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:18:08 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9561 <b>markku</b>, I don't know, but I'll regularly check whether sites' PRs are being updated. I can't agree with you more, content really is king. Actually that has always been the case. It only changed after webmasters became fascinated with PR and decided to focus on link-building to increase PR. <b>charles</b>, <b>Teejay</b>, I checked again today and it seems Google's datacenters are still down. Either that or they've already stopped updating PRs. <b>Biske</b>, true, I'd personally prefer to have more visitors, higher search engine ranking and, of couse, more income, than higher PR. But as long as the PR affects a site's search ranking, we can't discount the fact that it still matters, in one way or another. <b>Mig</b>, I'm not sure whether there are more recent views on this, but <a href=http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/more-info-on-pagerank/ rel="nofollow">Matt Cutts</a> himself posted in October 2006 that PR does affect ranking in some way: <em>By the time you see newer PageRanks in the toolbar, those values have already been incorporated in how we score/rank our search results. So while you may be happy to see that the Google Toolbar shows a little more PageRank for a given page, it's not as if that causes a change in search results at that point.</em> True, as long as a site has unique and valuable content, it is bound to be on top of the rankings. But for a generic search keyword such as "PayPal Philippines," for example, it would be difficult even for Google to determine which article is "more valuable" than the other, and that I think is where PR becomes useful. But again, PR is just one of the criteria to rank sites, it's not the only determinant of Google SERP ranking. I do agree with you that bloggers or site owners should not focus on PR, but instead on building content and gaining visitors' trust. At the end of the day, people will still come to a good site as long as they find it a good site, even if its PR is low. markku, I don’t know, but I’ll regularly check whether sites’ PRs are being updated. I can’t agree with you more, content really is king.

Actually that has always been the case. It only changed after webmasters became fascinated with PR and decided to focus on link-building to increase PR.

charles, Teejay, I checked again today and it seems Google’s datacenters are still down. Either that or they’ve already stopped updating PRs.

Biske, true, I’d personally prefer to have more visitors, higher search engine ranking and, of couse, more income, than higher PR. But as long as the PR affects a site’s search ranking, we can’t discount the fact that it still matters, in one way or another.

Mig, I’m not sure whether there are more recent views on this, but Matt Cutts himself posted in October 2006 that PR does affect ranking in some way:

By the time you see newer PageRanks in the toolbar, those values have already been incorporated in how we score/rank our search results. So while you may be happy to see that the Google Toolbar shows a little more PageRank for a given page, it’s not as if that causes a change in search results at that point.

True, as long as a site has unique and valuable content, it is bound to be on top of the rankings. But for a generic search keyword such as “PayPal Philippines,” for example, it would be difficult even for Google to determine which article is “more valuable” than the other, and that I think is where PR becomes useful. But again, PR is just one of the criteria to rank sites, it’s not the only determinant of Google SERP ranking.

I do agree with you that bloggers or site owners should not focus on PR, but instead on building content and gaining visitors’ trust. At the end of the day, people will still come to a good site as long as they find it a good site, even if its PR is low.

]]> By: Mig http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9550 Mig Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:22:41 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9550 Well, I have to disagree with you on the idea that PR has something to do with the SERPs. There are no reasons for you to drop from the SERPs as long as the content you publish is unique and valuable. If the drop happens, it is not because of the PR, but because other bloggers come up with something better. Keeping a place in the SERPs means competing . It is not only the paid links doing the damage to a blog. There are many reasons for the drop - including bad neighbors, blogrolls used to exchange links, sponsored reviews (too many) and so on. But a fact is clear: you shouldn't care about PR. Focus on driving traffic and creating a strong community of readers instead. Build up a website with a high trust rank. This is what is going to keep you in the SERPs. Well, I have to disagree with you on the idea that PR has something to do with the SERPs. There are no reasons for you to drop from the SERPs as long as the content you publish is unique and valuable.
If the drop happens, it is not because of the PR, but because other bloggers come up with something better. Keeping a place in the SERPs means competing .
It is not only the paid links doing the damage to a blog. There are many reasons for the drop - including bad neighbors, blogrolls used to exchange links, sponsored reviews (too many) and so on.
But a fact is clear: you shouldn’t care about PR. Focus on driving traffic and creating a strong community of readers instead. Build up a website with a high trust rank. This is what is going to keep you in the SERPs.

]]> By: Biske http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9547 Biske Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:35:11 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9547 Hay naku. After this talaga, hindi ko na tinitingnan PR ng sites. After all, I have a PR5 blog pero wala naman akong reader X_X ano yun~ Hay naku. After this talaga, hindi ko na tinitingnan PR ng sites. After all, I have a PR5 blog pero wala naman akong reader X_X ano yun~

]]> By: Teejay http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9535 Teejay Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:36:22 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9535 Is Google having any technical problems of late? It's been a while since they've updating the PRs of websites. I hope Jaypee get's his PR back though. And James, it's nice to see that you got to PR3 but still hoping you get back to PR4. Is Google having any technical problems of late? It’s been a while since they’ve updating the PRs of websites.

I hope Jaypee get’s his PR back though. And James, it’s nice to see that you got to PR3 but still hoping you get back to PR4.

]]> By: More Google PageRank Updates » Blogging News and Reviews // JaypeeOnline http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9533 More Google PageRank Updates » Blogging News and Reviews // JaypeeOnline Fri, 09 Nov 2007 01:24:57 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9533 [...] PinoyMoneyTalk has a list of several notable Filipino sites and blogs that were affected by the recent Google Pagerank [...] [...] PinoyMoneyTalk has a list of several notable Filipino sites and blogs that were affected by the recent Google Pagerank [...]

]]> By: charles http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9531 charles Fri, 09 Nov 2007 01:08:44 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9531 Holy Cow. I've checked my PR to those sites you've mentioned and I'm shocked to see I'm either PR 0 or N/A. Heads up just now. I've checked also other big A-list probloggers, they have PR 0 also.. I think the Google's PR datacenters are down as of the moment. Holy Cow. I’ve checked my PR to those sites you’ve mentioned and I’m shocked to see I’m either PR 0 or N/A.
Heads up just now. I’ve checked also other big A-list probloggers, they have PR 0 also.. I think the Google’s PR datacenters are down as of the moment.

]]> By: charles http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9530 charles Fri, 09 Nov 2007 01:00:00 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9530 "True, as long as the decreased PR does not affect a site’s traffic, then that site is fine. This, however, normally applies only to sites that are already established, sites where visitors need not use a search engine anymore to come to the site." I have to agree with you on this. New and Small sites are struggling on how to be seen on search engine result page. :) “True, as long as the decreased PR does not affect a site’s traffic, then that site is fine. This, however, normally applies only to sites that are already established, sites where visitors need not use a search engine anymore to come to the site.”

I have to agree with you on this. New and Small sites are struggling on how to be seen on search engine result page. :)

]]> By: markku http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9521 markku Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:41:21 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/11/08/google-pagerank-update-november2007/#comment-9521 Could this be a sign that PR updates might now come almost in weekly intervals? The need for traditional traffic building is here again, emphasizing that content is still king. I'm sure this site will do fine. ;) Could this be a sign that PR updates might now come almost in weekly intervals?

The need for traditional traffic building is here again, emphasizing that content is still king.

I’m sure this site will do fine. ;)

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