Comments on: SEC, BSP, media call FrancSwiss a Ponzi, warn against online HYIPs http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/ Make Money Online, Google Adsense, SEO, Stocks, Forex, Mutual Funds Philippines Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:07:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: romel http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-5663 romel Mon, 20 Aug 2007 04:19:36 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-5663 Naginvest din ako sa kagaguhang to jst months ago..sa UniversalForexSystem na yan.. at first ok kc un nga binibili nung upline na frend ko ang interest na naearn ko daily, by that tym d pa daw nag 1mnth ung scam na to kc June plang un.. Tapos dumating ung media issue bwt sa SF but sabi-sabi samin d2 e ok lang daw un kc d naman kmi gaya nung SF na Phil based , ang UniversalForexSystem daw e Aus based... So ung naearn ko nireinvest ko ulit..lahat lahat.. Ryt now medyo malaki laki na rin naearn ko..BUT BUT BUT..d na ko makaencash ng pera ko(ung bogus dollars earned na yan)!!!!!!!!... Ang nakakasama sa loob ko tlaga is stil seeing the site normally running and my account continuously earning daily interests...In reality BUM ak ngaun kc naubos ko lahat ininvest and wala naman ak naeencash sa banks d2 tlaga sa earnings ko!!!! Stil seeing ds site running means dey r stil continualy fooling Filipinos around.. Sana kung meron man nakakaalam sa wereabouts ng mga gagong nagumpisa n2, ireport agad sa NBI..sana mahuli kau lahat!! O Masagasaan ng Trak!! O Lamunin ng halimaw na kagaya nu!!! Mga gago!!! Kung meron man nagreklamo na sa UNIVERSALFOREXSYSTEM pls email me .. magreklamu din ako para naman mastop na to and malaman ng taumbayan.. THANKS... Naginvest din ako sa kagaguhang to jst months ago..sa UniversalForexSystem na yan.. at first ok kc un nga binibili nung upline na frend ko ang interest na naearn ko daily, by that tym d pa daw nag 1mnth ung scam na to kc June plang un.. Tapos dumating ung media issue bwt sa SF but sabi-sabi samin d2 e ok lang daw un kc d naman kmi gaya nung SF na Phil based , ang UniversalForexSystem daw e Aus based… So ung naearn ko nireinvest ko ulit..lahat lahat.. Ryt now medyo malaki laki na rin naearn ko..BUT BUT BUT..d na ko makaencash ng pera ko(ung bogus dollars earned na yan)!!!!!!!!… Ang nakakasama sa loob ko tlaga is stil seeing the site normally running and my account continuously earning daily interests…In reality BUM ak ngaun kc naubos ko lahat ininvest and wala naman ak naeencash sa banks d2 tlaga sa earnings ko!!!! Stil seeing ds site running means dey r stil continualy fooling Filipinos around.. Sana kung meron man nakakaalam sa wereabouts ng mga gagong nagumpisa n2, ireport agad sa NBI..sana mahuli kau lahat!! O Masagasaan ng Trak!! O Lamunin ng halimaw na kagaya nu!!! Mga gago!!! Kung meron man nagreklamo na sa UNIVERSALFOREXSYSTEM pls email me .. magreklamu din ako para naman mastop na to and malaman ng taumbayan.. THANKS…

]]> By: Scent Melendres http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-5291 Scent Melendres Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:41:35 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-5291 Grabe ang epekto niyan sa ibang forex company na nadadamay lang sana wag lahatin at sa mga investor icheck nyo po muna sa BSP at SEC then punthan nyopo agad ung companyng pag invest nyo alamin nyo po kung pano ang transactions,risks at kung long term pb ung company. at sa mga scam tigilan nyo na coz "THAT MONEY IS HARD EARN MONEY FROM THE PILIPINO PEOPLE" inbis na sana the money will work for us eh baliktad ang nangyayari. Maawa kayo sa tao at sa ibang kompanyang dinadamay nyo like us!!! Grabe ang epekto niyan sa ibang forex company na nadadamay lang sana wag lahatin at sa mga investor icheck nyo po muna sa BSP at SEC then punthan nyopo agad ung companyng pag invest nyo alamin nyo po kung pano ang transactions,risks at kung long term pb ung company.
at sa mga scam tigilan nyo na coz “THAT MONEY IS HARD EARN MONEY FROM THE PILIPINO PEOPLE” inbis na sana the money will work for us eh baliktad ang nangyayari. Maawa kayo sa tao at sa ibang kompanyang dinadamay nyo like us!!!

]]> By: fanny http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-4712 fanny Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:24:44 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-4712 kung di agad nailabas sa media ito, marami pa lalo ang maloloko/ mawawalan ng perang pinaghirapan. kung iisipin ang makabawi sa nailagay na pera at sisisihin ang pagkakalabas nitong scam sa media, mag isip isip din naman... katumbas ng mababawi mong pera at kikitain mo kunwaring pera eh galing din naman sa mga kawawang mabibiktima pa.. kung maayos talaga yang company na yan, di sana nandyan pa yan , walang naghahabol ng pera. sa mga taong nagsimula nyan, ipanalangin ninyo sana na wala sa mga kamag anak ninyo, o magiging anak o apo ninyo ang mabiktima ng ganitong panloloko sa mga darating na panahon. baka yan ang maging karma ninyo. perang pinaghihirapan ng iba, ninanakaw pa. nawa'y di kayo patahimikin ng kunsenya ninyo. kung di agad nailabas sa media ito, marami pa lalo ang maloloko/ mawawalan ng perang pinaghirapan. kung iisipin ang makabawi sa nailagay na pera at sisisihin ang pagkakalabas nitong scam sa media, mag isip isip din naman… katumbas ng mababawi mong pera at kikitain mo kunwaring pera eh galing din naman sa mga kawawang mabibiktima pa.. kung maayos talaga yang company na yan, di sana nandyan pa yan , walang naghahabol ng pera.
sa mga taong nagsimula nyan, ipanalangin ninyo sana na wala sa mga kamag anak ninyo, o magiging anak o apo ninyo ang mabiktima ng ganitong panloloko sa mga darating na panahon. baka yan ang maging karma ninyo. perang pinaghihirapan ng iba, ninanakaw pa. nawa’y di kayo patahimikin ng kunsenya ninyo.

]]> By: duane http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-4614 duane Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:01:07 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-4614 Before the media exposed the francswiss scam everything is doing good. Tapos ito na kmi ngayon umaasa na mababawi pa ung investment namin. Sabi nung friend ko na close kay anna (wife ng isa sa top investor) na nagrecruit sa kanya kinukuha daw ng gov't natin ung mga ariarian nila. Sana nga kung may makuha sila e magkaron ng way na maibalik sa mga investor na hindi man lang nakabawi ng ininvest nila like me. Matulungan nyo nga sana kmi. Before the media exposed the francswiss scam everything is doing good. Tapos ito na kmi ngayon umaasa na mababawi pa ung investment namin. Sabi nung friend ko na close kay anna (wife ng isa sa top investor) na nagrecruit sa kanya kinukuha daw ng gov’t natin ung mga ariarian nila. Sana nga kung may makuha sila e magkaron ng way na maibalik sa mga investor na hindi man lang nakabawi ng ininvest nila like me. Matulungan nyo nga sana kmi.

]]> By: Raf http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-4554 Raf Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:00:35 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-4554 Hay naku, Kung legal at maayos itong kompanya nito, bakit papangit sya kung may media exposure??? Why should the government help those who "invested"? Do they garuntee gambling losses? Because that's what you did with your money. Pinasugal mo lang. When someone approached my girlfriend about joining this, I did what any responsible investor would do. I did research on the internet about this company. Earnings reports, quarterly filings, regulatory reoprts and so on. On that first google search I found that this same company had scammed people in Malaysia & Singapore, so I refused to join. At lahat kayo na sinasabi "Francswiss is a good company, I got xxxx pesos out of my investment". Lahat ng pera na binigay sa inyo ay galing sa lahat na nag join at nawalaan ng inital investment. All your profits are from the losses of others. Hay naku,

Kung legal at maayos itong kompanya nito, bakit papangit sya kung may media exposure???

Why should the government help those who “invested”? Do they garuntee gambling losses? Because that’s what you did with your money. Pinasugal mo lang.

When someone approached my girlfriend about joining this, I did what any responsible investor would do. I did research on the internet about this company. Earnings reports, quarterly filings, regulatory reoprts and so on. On that first google search I found that this same company had scammed people in Malaysia & Singapore, so I refused to join.

At lahat kayo na sinasabi “Francswiss is a good company, I got xxxx pesos out of my investment”. Lahat ng pera na binigay sa inyo ay galing sa lahat na nag join at nawalaan ng inital investment. All your profits are from the losses of others.

]]> By: Edward Gador http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-4494 Edward Gador Mon, 09 Jul 2007 04:40:04 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-4494 I was encouraged to join weeks before pumutok ito sa media. I have friends in showbiz telling me about it and usually sila ang nauunang pumasok either because of their network sa industry or for the company to use them for their testimonials. I also have a friend I respected in business who invested US$5000 into the scheme kaya lalo akong napaisip. Sino ba naman ang makakatulog after being offered the opportunity to earn 4.5% DAILY on their money? Simula pa lang amoy scam na and if this didn't hit the media now eventually it would pa rin, and i think a lot of the people who got in knew this pero they were hoping that the scheme would still be alive for them to earn back their original US$1000. "Mukha ngang scam pero tatagal pa naman siguro yan ng 22 days para makapag pullout tayo." is what the existing and prospective investors would say. Now we know what happened and the people responsible are now being arrested. Too bad for those who were also hoping for their event this month wherein they'll be giving away a new car. As the saying goes, "If it looks like it's too good to be true, then it most probably is (too good to be true)." I was encouraged to join weeks before pumutok ito sa media. I have friends in showbiz telling me about it and usually sila ang nauunang pumasok either because of their network sa industry or for the company to use them for their testimonials.

I also have a friend I respected in business who invested US$5000 into the scheme kaya lalo akong napaisip. Sino ba naman ang makakatulog after being offered the opportunity to earn 4.5% DAILY on their money? Simula pa lang amoy scam na and if this didn’t hit the media now eventually it would pa rin, and i think a lot of the people who got in knew this pero they were hoping that the scheme would still be alive for them to earn back their original US$1000. “Mukha ngang scam pero tatagal pa naman siguro yan ng 22 days para makapag pullout tayo.” is what the existing and prospective investors would say.

Now we know what happened and the people responsible are now being arrested. Too bad for those who were also hoping for their event this month wherein they’ll be giving away a new car.

As the saying goes, “If it looks like it’s too good to be true, then it most probably is (too good to be true).”

]]> By: nadenggoy tayo http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-4450 nadenggoy tayo Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:45:44 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-4450 Best Answer - Chosen by Asker GRABENG LOKOHAN TO! PLEASE READ THIS!!! IMPORTANT!!! Baka ito ang makakasagot sa mga tanong mo na hindi masagot ng “ tangang mga upline daw”. meron akong findings on how these on-line investment runs: * sa maniwala kayo o hindi, mapapaisip din kayo after reading this article. 1. and FS ay pinapa takbo ng 8 batikang mga networkers from closed MLM 2. they funded this company, started P50,000 each… • bought PC units for the internet set-up • hired people (ITs) to make the website look good and set up the system. • based lang ito sa pilipinas kasi na trace ng friend ko nag we-web design.. sa cavite lang daw ang IP address ng francswiss. (.com / .biz /.org / .net ) • hindi lang ang FS ang ganito ang style - SM fund (manila based), Global America, Euro, etc…. madami yan!!! Pareho lang ang laro nila. • bumili sila ng software na syang magpapatakbo ng automatic calculations of e-points. • pinaganda nila ang website – para magmukang gawa sa singapore and US but hindi tutuo yan, gawa lang yan ditto. • Then, kunyari bumili sila ng e-points sa Singapore at US at dinala dito sa pinas. ang tutuo nyan, hindi sila naglabas ng pera. madali lang gawin ang first 1 million epoints sa system na gamit nila. then binenta nila ito sa mga networkers $1.00 per 1 e-point, eh di kumita kaagad sila ng $1,000,000.00 (or P47,000,000.00). bilis kita noh?. simple calculation lang yan but they can actually make as much as e-points as they want. Then sell it to people. Eh diba 8 sila? So they had 1million e-points each. Ganun kadali gumawa ng business na ito. May friend ako na marunong gumawa ng web at alam nya paano ang operations ng system na ito, pero ayaw nya syempre magsimula ng kalokohan na ganito. 3. then next, yung mga bumili ng 1000 e-points (mga na-recruit) will earn 4.5 percent a day so they will earn more e-points a day (FSDI). Kunyari dollars yun $45 a day. So padami ng padami ang epoints nila para ibenta din sa ibang downlines. 4. ENCASHMENTS: syempre, ganito yan, noong bago pa ang FS. Kunti pa lang ang networkers ang sumali. They mano-mano to deposit cash direct to the member’s account. Dati, 2 days lang, nasa bank mo na. so maniniwala talaga ang mga bagong recruits na okay ito kasi na-e-encash ang pera. Then napansin ninyo now, marami ang nag papa encash online. Pero 10 days na wala parin. May na meet ako 15 days na, di pa sya naencashed. May isa, mag 20 days na di pa naka encashed kasi hindi pumasok sa banko. Then sinasabi ng mga uplines, “wag mo lagyan ng dash ang account number, kasi kung meron, hindi ma-eencash” that’s a lie. Ang dali basahin ang number. Any system can read numbers. Simpleng calculator nga marunong mag add, yun pa kayang mas hi-tech na system na gamit nila. Ayaw lang talaga nila mag-encash. Ako nag pa encash ng $50 from my FSDI (francswiss daily interest) since june 28, now wala parin. Sige lang, I-annouce ko pag n-encash na. saying din yun. P2350 yun. Ilang pirasong lenchon manok ng andoks or baliwag din yun, then may sukli pa pambili ng coke. 5. EPOINTS: kailangan talaga nila ng new recruits to sell their accumulated e-points (or trade into real dollar bills). Ganito lang ka simple ang business – “kung walang new recruit, walang bibili ng e-points, then walang perang papasok, so Walang dollars”. Some uplines would buy epoints from you (that’s good at least meron), kasi nag rerecruit sila, at kinukulang sila ng e-points for new sign-ups. So literally, kumita karin kasi binili nila (uplines) ang e-points from you then pera ng downlines yung binayad sayo. Di nyo ba naisip yan?!!!! 6. SEC REG: Securities and Exchange Commission was alarming people about this investment. Well, they were just concerned to all citizens. That’s right! But kung totoo talagang sa US ang office ng francswiss, then the Philippine gov’t has no jurisdictions over on-line business and has no right to imprison people for joining this business. Their role is to warn people but not to dictate what the people will do with their money. Again “THEIR MONEY”. But on the other side, if this francswiss and other online companies were based in the Philippines, they should go through legal process – start right and definitely the company will run on the right path. As I have said ******, if this FS is based in the US or Singapore, then our country has no right to stop this. They can warn but not stop this. But sa una kung paniniwala, ang FS ay based lang sa cavite. If you don’t believe me, try to research and investigate. 7. BSP’s WARNING: “DON’T THINK TWICE, JUST SAY NO!!!” -from our source -next i will post who and where are these people behind… *watch for it! Best Answer - Chosen by Asker

GRABENG LOKOHAN TO!

PLEASE READ THIS!!! IMPORTANT!!!

Baka ito ang makakasagot sa mga tanong mo na hindi masagot ng “ tangang mga upline daw”.

meron akong findings on how these on-line investment runs:

*

sa maniwala kayo o hindi, mapapaisip din kayo after reading this article.

1. and FS ay pinapa takbo ng 8 batikang mga networkers from closed MLM

2. they funded this company, started P50,000 each…
• bought PC units for the internet set-up
• hired people (ITs) to make the website look good and set up the system.
• based lang ito sa pilipinas kasi na trace ng friend ko nag we-web design.. sa cavite lang daw ang IP address ng francswiss. (.com / .biz /.org / .net )
• hindi lang ang FS ang ganito ang style - SM fund (manila based), Global America, Euro, etc…. madami yan!!! Pareho lang ang laro nila.
• bumili sila ng software na syang magpapatakbo ng automatic calculations of e-points.
• pinaganda nila ang website – para magmukang gawa sa singapore and US but hindi tutuo yan, gawa lang yan ditto.
• Then, kunyari bumili sila ng e-points sa Singapore at US at dinala dito sa pinas. ang tutuo nyan, hindi sila naglabas ng pera. madali lang gawin ang first 1 million epoints sa system na gamit nila. then binenta nila ito sa mga networkers $1.00 per 1 e-point, eh di kumita kaagad sila ng $1,000,000.00 (or P47,000,000.00). bilis kita noh?. simple calculation lang yan but they can actually make as much as e-points as they want. Then sell it to people. Eh diba 8 sila? So they had 1million e-points each. Ganun kadali gumawa ng business na ito. May friend ako na marunong gumawa ng web at alam nya paano ang operations ng system na ito, pero ayaw nya syempre magsimula ng kalokohan na ganito.

3. then next, yung mga bumili ng 1000 e-points (mga na-recruit) will earn 4.5 percent a day so they will earn more e-points a day (FSDI). Kunyari dollars yun $45 a day. So padami ng padami ang epoints nila para ibenta din sa ibang downlines.

4. ENCASHMENTS: syempre, ganito yan, noong bago pa ang FS. Kunti pa lang ang networkers ang sumali. They mano-mano to deposit cash direct to the member’s account. Dati, 2 days lang, nasa bank mo na. so maniniwala talaga ang mga bagong recruits na okay ito kasi na-e-encash ang pera. Then napansin ninyo now, marami ang nag papa encash online. Pero 10 days na wala parin. May na meet ako 15 days na, di pa sya naencashed. May isa, mag 20 days na di pa naka encashed kasi hindi pumasok sa banko. Then sinasabi ng mga uplines, “wag mo lagyan ng dash ang account number, kasi kung meron, hindi ma-eencash” that’s a lie. Ang dali basahin ang number. Any system can read numbers. Simpleng calculator nga marunong mag add, yun pa kayang mas hi-tech na system na gamit nila. Ayaw lang talaga nila mag-encash. Ako nag pa encash ng $50 from my FSDI (francswiss daily interest) since june 28, now wala parin. Sige lang, I-annouce ko pag n-encash na. saying din yun. P2350 yun. Ilang pirasong lenchon manok ng andoks or baliwag din yun, then may sukli pa pambili ng coke.

5. EPOINTS: kailangan talaga nila ng new recruits to sell their accumulated e-points (or trade into real dollar bills). Ganito lang ka simple ang business – “kung walang new recruit, walang bibili ng e-points, then walang perang papasok, so Walang dollars”. Some uplines would buy epoints from you (that’s good at least meron), kasi nag rerecruit sila, at kinukulang sila ng e-points for new sign-ups. So literally, kumita karin kasi binili nila (uplines) ang e-points from you then pera ng downlines yung binayad sayo. Di nyo ba naisip yan?!!!!

6. SEC REG: Securities and Exchange Commission was alarming people about this investment. Well, they were just concerned to all citizens. That’s right! But kung totoo talagang sa US ang office ng francswiss, then the Philippine gov’t has no jurisdictions over on-line business and has no right to imprison people for joining this business. Their role is to warn people but not to dictate what the people will do with their money. Again “THEIR MONEY”. But on the other side, if this francswiss and other online companies were based in the Philippines, they should go through legal process – start right and definitely the company will run on the right path. As I have said ******, if this FS is based in the US or Singapore, then our country has no right to stop this. They can warn but not stop this. But sa una kung paniniwala, ang FS ay based lang sa cavite. If you don’t believe me, try to research and investigate.

7. BSP’s WARNING: “DON’T THINK TWICE, JUST SAY NO!!!”

-from our source
-next i will post who and where are these people behind… *watch for it!

]]> By: abu sayyangh http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-4204 abu sayyangh Sat, 07 Jul 2007 04:48:01 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-4204 the government must now help the investors of francswiss retrieve their money in no time.. while elly castillo is under their custody the government must now help the investors of francswiss retrieve their money in no time.. while elly castillo is under their custody

]]> By: gil castor http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-4067 gil castor Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:41:47 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-4067 francswissis okey if media did not interfere..it pays its traders well til media came in the scene...it helps a lot not only to individualbut in tyhe philippine economy as a whole. francswissis okey if media did not interfere..it pays its traders well til media came in the scene…it helps a lot not only to individualbut in tyhe philippine economy as a whole.

]]> By: ashwerna rai http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-3777 ashwerna rai Thu, 05 Jul 2007 06:23:07 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-3777 i for one invested with francswiss, after 23 days i got my money back....so if i earn more....not bad but if it shuts down, no loss at all.after all i alredy got my investment back..... i for one invested with francswiss, after 23 days i got my money back….so if i earn more….not bad but if it shuts down, no loss at all.after all i alredy got my investment back…..

]]> By: Edenita Lugue http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-3674 Edenita Lugue Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:36:57 +0000 http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2007/07/04/bsp-sec-says-francswiss-is-ponzi-scheme/#comment-3674 My friends were convincing me to invest. Minimum investment is $1,000 but after learning my lessons on my 4daily and 6daily experience, I am now a lot wiser. Authorities should do something about it. My friends were convincing me to invest. Minimum investment is $1,000 but after learning my lessons on my 4daily and 6daily experience, I am now a lot wiser.

Authorities should do something about it.

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